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Well folks, thanks for all the well wishes.
If anyone has not yet been through clearance and the references they have are statements of employment please do make sure you have some form of actual reference to save yourself the mountain of aggravation and stress I've been through the last couple of days.
They insisted (after multiple discussions and appeals to reason) on a reference within the last three years (which meant my current position as I have been there that long) and my company were equally insistent that they do not issue references as company policy and only give statements of employment (like most large companies and apparently the civil service themselves!). For some reason an excellent academic reference would not do. The exact phrase was "no reference no job".
In fairness the person I was dealing with was super nice and patient with me and its not their fault, obviously its some requirement they have which is outdated given todays employment practices.
Eventually I managed to (almost literally) strong arm a very reluctant senior manager into doing the reference for me. I'm positive they would not have done this for any other employee.
Anyway long story short I got my assignment and department today and am waiting on a start date and location, so alls well and ends well
Just wanted to warn others in a similar position to be prepared for this.0 -
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Well folks, thanks for all the well wishes.
If anyone has not yet been through clearance and the references they have are statements of employment please do make sure you have some form of actual reference to save yourself the mountain of aggravation and stress I've been through the last couple of days.
They insisted (after multiple discussions and appeals to reason) on a reference within the last three years (which meant my current position as I have been there that long) and my company were equally insistent that they do not issue references as company policy and only give statements of employment (like most large companies and apparently the civil service themselves!). For some reason an excellent academic reference would not do. The exact phrase was "no reference no job".
In fairness the person I was dealing with was super nice and patient with me and its not their fault, obviously its some requirement they have which is outdated given todays employment practices.
Eventually I managed to (almost literally) strong arm a very reluctant senior manager into doing the reference for me. I'm positive they would not have done this for any other employee.
Anyway long story short I got my assignment and department today and am waiting on a start date and location, so alls well and ends well
Just wanted to warn others in a similar position to be prepared for this.
Well done Full Marx! I knew you'd find a way 😉 What department did you get? I got social protection.0 -
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So frustrated.
Got the call there that they want to speak to my current employer. They did and they will only give a statement of employment. PAS need a reference within the last 3 years. I've worked in my current company for three years. My academic reference before that won't work. While the person from PAS was super nice they said that no reference means no job. I'm kicking up holy war in work now but not looking likely they will budge. Supervisers are afraid to give a personal reference because someone got in massive trouble for doing that before. Work say they will get back to me with a definite answer tomorrow.
Actually very upset now
Any update on this situation??0 -
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Any update on this situation??
Yes got it sorted thankfully, here's the update I posted a few pages back:
Well folks, thanks for all the well wishes.
If anyone has not yet been through clearance and the references they have are statements of employment please do make sure you have some form of actual reference to save yourself the mountain of aggravation and stress I've been through the last couple of days.
They insisted (after multiple discussions and appeals to reason) on a reference within the last three years (which meant my current position as I have been there that long) and my company were equally insistent that they do not issue references as company policy and only give statements of employment (like most large companies and apparently the civil service themselves!). For some reason an excellent academic reference would not do. The exact phrase was "no reference no job".
In fairness the person I was dealing with was super nice and patient with me and its not their fault, obviously its some requirement they have which is outdated given todays employment practices.
Eventually I managed to (almost literally) strong arm a very reluctant senior manager into doing the reference for me. I'm positive they would not have done this for any other employee.
Anyway long story short I got my assignment and department today and am waiting on a start date and location, so alls well and ends well
Just wanted to warn others in a similar position to be prepared for this.0 -
Yes got it sorted thankfully, here's the update I posted a few pages back:
Well folks, thanks for all the well wishes.
If anyone has not yet been through clearance and the references they have are statements of employment please do make sure you have some form of actual reference to save yourself the mountain of aggravation and stress I've been through the last couple of days.
They insisted (after multiple discussions and appeals to reason) on a reference within the last three years (which meant my current position as I have been there that long) and my company were equally insistent that they do not issue references as company policy and only give statements of employment (like most large companies and apparently the civil service themselves!). For some reason an excellent academic reference would not do. The exact phrase was "no reference no job".
In fairness the person I was dealing with was super nice and patient with me and its not their fault, obviously its some requirement they have which is outdated given todays employment practices.
Eventually I managed to (almost literally) strong arm a very reluctant senior manager into doing the reference for me. I'm positive they would not have done this for any other employee.
Anyway long story short I got my assignment and department today and am waiting on a start date and location, so alls well and ends well
Just wanted to warn others in a similar position to be prepared for this.
Well done I say you are only delighted!!!
I wonder what number they are on now in Dublin??0 -
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Yes got it sorted thankfully, here's the update I posted a few pages back:
Well folks, thanks for all the well wishes.
If anyone has not yet been through clearance and the references they have are statements of employment please do make sure you have some form of actual reference to save yourself the mountain of aggravation and stress I've been through the last couple of days.
They insisted (after multiple discussions and appeals to reason) on a reference within the last three years (which meant my current position as I have been there that long) and my company were equally insistent that they do not issue references as company policy and only give statements of employment (like most large companies and apparently the civil service themselves!). For some reason an excellent academic reference would not do. The exact phrase was "no reference no job".
In fairness the person I was dealing with was super nice and patient with me and its not their fault, obviously its some requirement they have which is outdated given todays employment practices.
Eventually I managed to (almost literally) strong arm a very reluctant senior manager into doing the reference for me. I'm positive they would not have done this for any other employee.
Anyway long story short I got my assignment and department today and am waiting on a start date and location, so alls well and ends well
Just wanted to warn others in a similar position to be prepared for this.
Brilliant, well done!! What dept did you get assigned to?0
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