The Last Of Us 2

Leroy42

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

A case of trying to quell any sort of negative attention to stop it being added to the already massive amount of negativity surrounding the game.

There is no negativity, well none that is rational at least, surrounding this game.

People are generally really excited about its release, can't wait to see how they take the story on and what is next in store for Ellie and Joel.

"I don't like the story line to a game I haven't played yet" compared to the actual pre-reviews which were almost universally positive and you could tell that they had really enjoyed the game.

Do you even know what the law is around this type of song? Whether they have to give her credit? Even if they did, perhaps they just made a oversight, and have moved to correct it pretty quickly and the artist in question seems more than happy with the response.

The Raging Bile Duct

Leroy42 wrote: »

There is no negativity, well none that is rational at least, surrounding this game.

People are generally really excited about its release, can't wait to see how they take the story on and what is next in store for Ellie and Joel.

"I don't like the story line to a game I haven't played yet" compared to the actual pre-reviews which were almost universally positive and you could tell that they had really enjoyed the game.

Do you even know what the law is around this type of song? Whether they have to give her credit? Even if they did, perhaps they just made a oversight, and have moved to correct it pretty quickly and the artist in question seems more than happy with the response.

Never said the negativity was rational but there has been a lot of it surrounding the game coming from a certain section of culture warriors. Accusations of plagiarism would have been more fuel to the fire for that lot.

The rights of the song would have been New Order so she really didn't have any right to compensation at all. They could have easily told her to gwan ta fook.

Can't bleedin' wait for the game meself but it's such a pity I've to be so mindful of online discussions in relation to it because of the amount of tits that want to spoil it for as many people as possible. This forum has been pretty decent in terms of being able to talk about the game without getting the game spoiled.

Retr0gamer

I'd say the artist they hired plagarised the original cover and never disclosed that and caught Naughty Dog off guard.

Zero-Cool

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

This forum has been pretty decent in terms of being able to talk about the game without getting the game spoiled.

Yes, shoutout to the people who either wanted to talk about the spoilers, defend their dislike of their game or even the ones who wanted to be dicks and held back. Other forums were/are an absolute ****show compared to here.

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd say the artist they hired plagarised the original cover and never disclosed that and caught Naughty Dog off guard.

I'd say this is most likely the case. Or someone suggested the cover, had legal team get the rights, legal only got rights for the original but told creative everything was sorted. Still lies with ND to stay on top of things like this but glad it's sortednow anyway.

How about no more drama til release days???

The Raging Bile Duct

Retr0gamer wrote: »

I'd say the artist they hired plagarised the original cover and never disclosed that and caught Naughty Dog off guard.

I'd be inclined to be a bit more cynical about it. As far as I can tell it's Ashley Johnson, who voices Ellie, singing the song.

Retr0gamer

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

I'd be inclined to be a bit more cynical about it. As far as I can tell it's Ashley Johnson, who voices Ellie, singing the song.

Ah, the plot thickens.

The Raging Bile Duct

Zero-Cool wrote: »

I'd say this is most likely the case. Or someone suggested the cover, had legal team get the rights, legal only got rights for the original but told creative everything was sorted. Still lies with ND to stay on top of things like this but glad it's sortednow anyway.

Legal would have only have to have gotten the rights from New Order, the other one has zero claim to the song.

Penn

The Raging Bile Duct wrote: »

I'd be inclined to be a bit more cynical about it. As far as I can tell it's Ashley Johnson, who voices Ellie, singing the song.

It's definitely Ashley Johnson, but I think the claim is about the musical arrangement/tempo matching Lotte Kestner's previous cover version as opposed to New Order's (for obvious reasons).

It's the kind of thing where there's almost no way to do a female acoustic slow version of that song without it sounding like that, but the fact there was a previous version and the new version sounds just like it, it's just not clear cut either way as to whether they copied it or not, so I'd say they just didn't think it was worth fighting either way.

Zero-Cool

It was the humming at the end that nailed it. It was proof someone heard Kestner's cover and said 'We'll have that'. In the end, it was handed to Ashley to sing or who knows, Ashley could have suggested it.

The Raging Bile Duct

Penn wrote: »

It's definitely Ashley Johnson, but I think the claim is about the musical arrangement/tempo matching Lotte Kestner's previous cover version as opposed to New Order's (for obvious reasons).

It's the kind of thing where there's almost no way to do a female acoustic slow version of that song without it sounding like that, but the fact there was a previous version and the new version sounds just like it, it's just not clear cut either way as to whether they copied it or not, so I'd say they just didn't think it was worth fighting either way.

Ah, they copied it without a doubt in my mind. Legally, it wouldn't have been worth Lottie Kestner fighting it because her arrangement most likely wouldn't have been protected by copyright and I sincerely doubt she'd have the resources to take on ND. Whatever settlement they came to would purely be a goodwill gesture on the part of ND. I sincerely doubt they had any legal obligation to compensate her.

Zero-Cool

Just remembered that the reviews will be going live from 8am Irish time on Friday. I'll be avoiding reviews but interested to hear general thoughts.

Grumpypants

Most likely it was just overlooked, they have a million and 1 things to organise and it is very likely they just forgot. It could be credited in the game's credits and just not in the trailer.

You have a team getting licenses, another making the recording, another making the video, another posting it.

It happened, they owned it, fixed it, it's all good.

Joshua J

sweetie wrote: »

Warnig! Had this pre-ordered with GS and got a call asking of I'd like to cancel and instead order online for delivery as they are expecting big queues. Grand I said as long as there's no extra charge but when I went to use the voucher they gave me, they want an extra 6.50. Have sent a mail to CS so hopefully they'll resolve it.

Had this preordered with GS too. Our local shop closed recently so manager of another shop rang me and sorted delivery with voucher. All went through at no extra cost to me.

RedRochey

First time preordering a game with Symths for delivery, so I should be getting it on the 18th? How does it work so I can't play it before the 19th?

sniper_samurai

RedRochey wrote: »

First time preordering a game with Symths for delivery, so I should be getting it on the 18th? How does it work so I can't play it before the 19th?

If it is a disc copy you can play as soon as you get it, unlike digital.

Retr0gamer

sniper_samurai wrote: »

If it is a disc copy you can play as soon as you get it, unlike digital.

Oh is it 2004 again and Day 1 patches don't exist? :pac:

sniper_samurai

Retr0gamer wrote: »

Oh is it 2004 again and Day 1 patches don't exist? :pac:

You can still play without the day 1 patch, in most cases. The day 1 patch usually goes live a day or two before release anyway.

I got a PS3 game an entire week before release that had a day 1 patch and it worked fine. Platniumed it before it was officially released too.

irish_stevo815

RedRochey wrote: »

First time preordering a game with Symths for delivery, so I should be getting it on the 18th? How does it work so I can't play it before the 19th?

Thinking about ordering from Smyths too, they usually good to deliver for release day on pre orders.

Would be sickened not to get it on Friday

ERG89

Reviews will be out at 8am in the morning.


https://opencritic.com/game/8351/the-last-of-us-part-ii

Zero-Cool

Eurogamer - Essential - https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2020-06-12-the-last-of-us-part-2-review-a-gut-wrenching-sequel

GamesRadar - 5/5 - https://www.gamesradar.com/last-of-us-part-2-review/

Metro - 9/10 - https://metro.co.uk/2020/06/12/last-us-part-2-review-ps4-naughty-dog-sony-12838708/

Easy Allies - 9.5/10 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfH-FPwhoto

Game Informer - 10/10 - https://www.gameinformer.com/review/the-last-of-us-part-ii/the-last-of-us-part-ii-review-a-perfect-circle

Polygon - Unscored - https://www.polygon.com/reviews/2020/6/12/21288535/the-last-of-us-part-2-review-ps4-naughty-dog-ellie-joel-violence

USGamer - 4.5/5 - https://www.usgamer.net/articles/the-last-of-us-part-2-review

Destructiod - 8.5/10 - https://www.destructoid.com/stories/review-the-last-of-us-part-ii-592974.phtml

The Sixth Axis - 10/10 - https://www.thesixthaxis.com/2020/06/12/the-last-of-us-part-2-review-ps4-tlou2/

ShackNews - 9/10 - https://www.shacknews.com/article/118563/the-last-of-us-part-2-review-a-haunting-melody

VG247 - 5/5 - https://www.vg247.com/2020/06/12/the-last-of-us-2-review/

Push Square - 10/10 - http://www.pushsquare.com/reviews/ps4/last_of_us_part_ii

IGN - 10/10 - https://www.ign.com/articles/the-last-of-us-part-2-review

ronano

reviewer score will be high as hell, user score will probably be bombed and in the 30's. Good to know it's getting decent reviews, not going to read anything else until release which is a week away, god damn

Zero-Cool

Pre-download is live on PSN now. 76.97GB

EoinMcLovin

Eurogamer – Essential
USG – 4.5/5
GamesRadar – 5/5
IGN – 10/10
VGC – 5/5
GameInformer – 10/10
GameSpot – 8/10

deceit

I woke up to my first review of the game. A youtuber called Skillup.
It seems to have a differing opinion on the game from the typical media outlets scores.
https://youtu.be/GB20A8CitRU

Rob2D

deceit wrote: »

I woke up to my first review of the game. A youtuber called Skillup.
It seems to have a differing opinion on the game from the typical media outlets scores.
https://youtu.be/GB20A8CitRU

And I bet he's 100% right too. Sounds exactly like what I predicted would happen.

goon_magee

A 96 on Metacritic after 76 reviews. Holy sh*t.

Not that I expected anything else tbh, this always felt like a game ND wouldn't go near unless they genuinely had an interesting story to tell.

Retr0gamer

Yeah, but what about the non-controversy and the media's agenda and collusion conspiracy?

deceit

deceit wrote: »

I woke up to my first review of the game. A youtuber called Skillup.
It seems to have a differing opinion on the game from the typical media outlets scores.
https://youtu.be/GB20A8CitRU

"More terminally, the story of the game is a complete mess, forgoing any of the themes, relationships and tones that were central to the first game, and replacing them with a petty revenge story, driven by unlikeable characters making decisions that seem ridiculous and unbelievable."

Zero-Cool

Deleted User wrote: »

"More terminally, the story of the game is a complete mess, forgoing any of the themes, relationships and tones that were central to the first game, and replacing them with a petty revenge story, driven by unlikeable characters making decisions that seem ridiculous and unbelievable."

Zero-Cool

I do find it interesting that Reviewers aren't allowed talk about the beginning or 2nd half of the game. I'm sure to keep spoilers from getting out there any more than already have but it sounds like if you had anything negative to say about it, it would be from the 2nd half and you're not allowed talk about it.

Anyway, just 1 week to go before I find out for myself!

No multiplayer at launch confirmed. Hope it gets added.