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Convective/Thunderstorm Discussion: Autumn/Winter 2016-17

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    It's about a 60% chance I think of noisy fireworks near the Irish Sea coasts this evening and tonight
    New storms are firing up down south of Brest with a trajectory way west of the stuff now over Britain
    One to watch

    The breeze here is ENE which will help (if you want them coming this way that is :D)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    The Dragon Queen and her troops are coming :D

    6e96849b0e7bcd796bce8d7d5bc618a9.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,484 ✭✭✭Jpmarn


    Looking at the maps could these thunderstorms affect much of Ireland this evening our tonight. It looks like the showers situated west of Brest could be up the the south coast of Ireland at about teatime. Will the thundery activity die out be the time these clouds reach Ireland. At the moment there thunderstorms spreading up throughout western parts of England and Wales.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    See Attached,Biscay is on Fire at the moment,it's rare to see so much lightning all along that front
    That system is heading towards southeast and east Ireland tonight


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Dublin is owed a huge lightning show.... there.... I said it...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    jimmynokia wrote: »
    Dublin is owed a huge lightning show.... there.... I said it...

    Are you actually serious every second actual lightning storm is either in or near Dublin, Dublin is owed absoutley nothing, especially not compared to the West.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 532 ✭✭✭511


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Are you actually serious every second actual lightning storm is either in or near Dublin, Dublin is owed absoutley nothing, especially not compared to the West.

    We've got nothing this year. The West/Northwest was blitzed by the first outbreak and the Midlands was hit a few weeks ago.

    I'm about 10kms north of Dublin and all I got to see was 2 or 3 distant flashes of lightning and faint rumbles of thunder, that could easily be mistaken for a plane at Dublin Airport.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    See Attached,Biscay is on Fire at the moment,it's rare to see so much lightning all along that front
    That system is heading towards southeast and east Ireland tonight

    I wonder will it though. I'm doubting this now.
    Hope I'm wrong.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    Jpmarn wrote: »
    Looking at the maps could these thunderstorms affect much of Ireland this evening our tonight. It looks like the showers situated west of Brest could be up the the south coast of Ireland at about teatime. Will the thundery activity die out be the time these clouds reach Ireland. At the moment there thunderstorms spreading up throughout western parts of England and Wales.
    The Eagle Eagleton on the radio 20 mins ago said lightning flashes will probably be seen along the east coast tonight but the storms will stay out at sea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    511 wrote: »
    We've got nothing this year. The West/Northwest was blitzed by the first outbreak and the Midlands was hit a few weeks ago.

    I'm about 10kms north of Dublin and all I got to see was 2 or 3 distant flashes of lightning and faint rumbles of thunder, that could easily be mistaken for a plane at Dublin Airport.

    This year I've seen flights halted at the airport due to Thunderstorms!

    A very small section (which included galway city) of the West got a large thunderstorm, that was it.

    I've seen 1 flash since February, and that was about 2 weeks ago.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    The Eagle Eagleton on the radio 20 mins ago said lightning flashes will probably be seen along the east coast tonight but the storms will stay out at sea.

    Usual case, unfortunately. There may be a lot of hype in terms of lightning hitting Dublin. However, as has been proven, those hoping for a dramatic light show in Dublin are often left disappointed.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Does anyone remember the 3 day thunderstorm in Dublin was it back in 2006 ? around October , there was snow and everything. That was a bit mad.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,221 ✭✭✭pad199207


    If it's just going to b a case of lightning out to see forget it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,068 ✭✭✭Iancar29


    Hold the boat!
    12z is actually looking more optimistic on storms surviving across the Irish sea late tonight.

    nmm_uk1-29-12-0_ssu1.png
    Mid level instability holding strong after the impressive build up across England tonday.
    nmm_uk1-28-12-0_ord9.png

    Another thing to keep chances alive is the strong DLS in place to sustain the cells.
    nmm_uk1-40-11-0_tlx0.png

    So, if your along the east coast guys... charge z batteries :cool:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    Ok I'm getting excited again the thunderstorms are only 150kms from wexford.

    On another note I wonder is Manchester still there.:D Fairly intense over there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    Ok I'm getting excited again the thunderstorms are only 150kms from wexford.

    On another note I wonder is Manchester still there.:D Fairly intense over there.

    Nothing's landed in the airport for ages, and nothing taking off now either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Nothing's landed in the airport for ages, and nothing taking off now either.

    Champions league game in danger of being called off
    I was over there Saturday was lovely :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Well I have my thunder headache,it's usually a good sign :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    City match called off due to the weather in Manchester hopefully we will get a bit of that later


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,184 ✭✭✭Elmer Blooker


    km79 wrote: »
    Champions league game in danger of being called off
    Match posponed.
    It shows up nicely here and also a few "blobs" near Land's End as well.
    http://de.sat24.com/de


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  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    The size of those storms

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    A long way off yet ( would be cool crossing the ferry tonight to Roslare ),

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 240 ✭✭fraxinus1


    Met Eireann are not calling thunder storms over the east of Ireland tonight. It's been a disappointing season in west Dublin. No storm has passed directly over us. A few distant flashes once or twice this summer. I am not going to get to excited about tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    A trip down to hook head tonight hmm....(work tomorrow, ahh s*ite).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,101 ✭✭✭squarecircles


    fraxinus1 wrote: »
    Met Eireann are not calling thunder storms over the east of Ireland tonight. It's been a disappointing season in west Dublin. No storm has passed directly over us. A few distant flashes once or twice this summer. I am not going to get to excited about tonight.

    Good chance of it happening so...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    That storm heading towards Wexford / Wicklow is still firing away and making ground

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  • Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭Calmcookie84


    My dad is on route to his radio shack to disconnect his aerials. He couldn't hear anything on his radios with the storms in the UK


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,684 ✭✭✭Darwin


    It's a strange setup as the automated short range forecast on met.ie is showing light rainfall over the eastern part of the country at the moment and for the next couple of hours.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Some very heavy localized rain in those storms

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,891 ✭✭✭prinzeugen


    Looks like the South coast is going to get all the fun and nothing for Dublin going by this.

    http://beta.meteoradar.co.uk/expected-rainfall


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,467 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    Carnacalla wrote: »
    Are you actually serious every second actual lightning storm is either in or near Dublin, Dublin is owed absoutley nothing, especially not compared to the West.

    Yeah I am we have had SFA


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,415 ✭✭✭Trebor176


    Does anyone remember the 3 day thunderstorm in Dublin was it back in 2006 ? around October , there was snow and everything. That was a bit mad.

    I don't remember the snow, but I do remember the thunder. I was doing school exams at the time, and there were plenty of rumbles with the odd one startling the students in the hall :) I can recall standing outside with friends at home with the thunder rumbling around. looking up, I could see the clouds moving in a circular motion. Finally, I have a newspaper cutting of a photo of lightning in Dublin. The bolt looked like an illuminated tornado.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Trebor176 wrote: »
    I don't remember the snow, but I do remember the thunder. I was doing school exams at the time, and there were plenty of rumbles with the odd one startling the students in the hall :) I can recall standing outside with friends at home with the thunder rumbling around. looking up, I could see the clouds moving in a circular motion. Finally, I have a newspaper cutting of a photo of lightning in Dublin. The bolt looked like an illuminated tornado.

    Yeah it was so weird for 3 days, that was unusual, I remember driving up on the N7 around Saggart an seeing a huge bolt of lightning hit the ground over the Newcastle area I think it was.

    The snow was on the hills. I remember driving up the Dublin Mountains towards Johnny Foxe's and it was pegging Snow and flashing Lightning, the most unusual thing ever.

    Surprised more people don't remember.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Met.ie still says dry tonight, however Radar shows Rain heading towards the Wexford coast, and looks like it might track this way if it doesn't die in the meantime.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    I heard a clap of thunder in the distance. Wo hoo.:D

    Oh wait better make sure the phone is charged.:pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    The storm approaching in the Celtic sea should hit East Wexford and east Wicklow before midnight and should be calling at all stations after that as far as Newry by morning
    How often it's driver blows it's whistle by then remains to be seen


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    pedigree 6 wrote: »
    I heard a clap of thunder in the distance. Wo hoo.:D

    Oh wait better make sure the phone is charged.:pac:

    Very windy here,I haven't been out for a look yet but my thunder headache is getting worse


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Met.ie still says dry tonight, however Radar shows Rain heading towards the Wexford coast, and looks like it might track this way if it doesn't die in the meantime.

    Some strong colours even on met.ie's. radar and they just talk of patchy rain and drizzle ??? Lightning too not far off hook head and we've just had s tv forecast of the odd bit of patchy rain and drizzle?
    Hmmmmm....,


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    Very windy here,I haven't been out for a look yet but my thunder headache is getting worse

    You should work for lightning radar. We could just turn your head around slowly to see which direction the thunderstorms are coming from.:D

    I'm mocking of course. Some people do get them.


  • Posts: 21,179 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ArKl0w wrote: »
    Some strong colours even on met.ie's. radar and they just talk of patchy rain and drizzle ??? Lightning too not far off hook head and we've just had s tv forecast of the odd bit of patchy rain and drizzle?
    Hmmmmm....,

    Here's hoping for some (probably final) action for the year !!!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭glightning


    In my eyes, the whole system is falling apart now. The storms in Northern England are just about to dissipate - and the stuff to the SE of Wexford is falling apart too. I think that will be the end of all activity for now to be honest.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭glightning


    The Sat24 animation is showing the updrafts rapidly dying out.

    en.sat24.com/en/gb/infraPolair


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,559 ✭✭✭pedigree 6


    glightning wrote: »
    In my eyes, the whole system is falling apart now. The storms in Northern England are just about to dissipate - and the stuff to the SE of Wexford is falling apart too. I think that will be the end of all activity for now to be honest.

    It's finito. It's over, so near and yet so far and it's going up the irish sea.
    No more sparks. Good night i'm off to bed.:rolleyes:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    Well the smaller ones (compared to what's over Biscay) are weakening alright
    The storm approaching Wexford appears to have no sferics for the last half hour

    However what's over central NW France is heading NNW

    You can see its potential trajectory in the following link
    It's basically going to take the same route through west Cornwall and into the Celtic sea west of Pembrokeshire as the Wexford blob did today
    The difference is,the current French stuff is much much bigger and much more electrified

    http://www.weathercast.co.uk/radar/france.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,230 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    No strikes off the system off wexford for at least 30mins.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭glightning


    Ireland is not, and never has been within the plume proper this time. We are too far to the west on the cold side of the precipitation with this one in the much cooler airmass. Dewpoints are in the upper teens across the water, we are just around 10c right now. It's a different story in France as they still have high dewpoints and warm airmass in place.

    This time round, we missed the heat, humidity, and storms unfortunately.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    glightning wrote: »
    Ireland is not, and never has been within the plume proper this time. We are too far to the west on the cold side of the precipitation with this one in the much cooler airmass. Dewpoints are in the upper teens across the water, we are just around 10c right now. It's a different story in France as they still have high dewpoints and warm airmass in place.

    This time round, we missed the heat, humidity, and storms unfortunately.
    I know but that only counts if we were making our own storms
    Here we are talking about importing storms made elsewhere
    Different story altogether


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 626 ✭✭✭glightning


    We'll see, but I suspect that even at the mid levels any storms will never make it this far NW. If you carefully watch the lightning activity in that system over France, it is continuing to move to the NNE whilst rapidly dying out in the west. Southern England is best positioned right now for any chance of something from France.

    But again, let's see! Would be happy to be proven wrong (though of course, I'm up here in NI where it is even less likely!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,720 ✭✭✭Hal1


    Forecast from ME:
    Some thundery rain will move onto the Southeast coast early tonight and will move Northwards up through Eastern coastal counties during the night hours. It will stay mostly dry elsewhere with broken cloud and a few mist patches forming in a light to moderate Northerly breeze. Lowest temperatures 9 to 13 degrees Celsius, coolest in the west.

    .


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 787 ✭✭✭ArKl0w


    glightning wrote: »
    We'll see, but I suspect that even at the mid levels any storms will never make it this far NW. If you carefully watch the lightning activity in that system over France, it is continuing to move to the NNE whilst rapidly dying out in the west. Southern England is best positioned right now for any chance of something from France.

    But again, let's see! Would be happy to be proven wrong (though of course, I'm up here in NI where it is even less likely!)

    Aye, I'm pretty much looking for decaying remnants which I wouldn't rule out surviving as far as near Wexford anyway,certainly out of that 2nd lot
    I shan't be staying up for it but won't be annoyed if awoken later obviously


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,404 ✭✭✭✭vicwatson


    Now met eireann tweet

    Thundery rain along SE & E coastal counties overnight, mostly dry elsewhere. Some mist patches also. Lows 9 to 13 deg, coolest in W.


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