Hijab wearing muslim "attacked" on street

Jan Laco

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37600532

Was expecting to read about an assault but it's a story about two guys who come from behind and pull down a girls hijab on a street in London.

Should this really be considered as an attack? Should pranking school kids be charged when they pull a friends sports shorts down too?

IMO it's more privilege for these muslims, who shouldn't be wearing hijab here in the first place.

tomwaterford

I don't think they should be charged.....just why like


But I do think people should be allowed wear what they want.....except kk jerseys

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

Is wedgies an attack? They should be!

Jayop

How would you define an attack other than this? Amazing.

darkpagandeath

I must have been constantly attacked growing up.

Billy86

Post Brexit England, what a lovely place to live in.

On the plus side, the other day on Amazon I got £530 worth of stuff plus deliver for €600.

tomwaterford

LexieOnRale wrote: »

Is wedgies an attack? They should be!

Avoid secondary schools in waterford so.....

anewme

If someone came up behind a person and yanked down their trousers or lifted someone's skirt, I'd expect it to be taken seriously. This is no different.

Penny Tration

If someone pulls an article of clothing off of my body against my will, it's an assault.


Just because it's a hijab, doesn't change what they did.

Ted111

If someone tried to pull an article of clothing off me Hi Jab em in the face.

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

The victim was not injured but shocked and distressed, the Met said.

Have to feel sorry for her, imagine those brutes seeing her hair and neck! The shame...

SterlingArcher

Penny Tration wrote: »

If some pulled an article of clothing off of my body against my will, it's an assault.


Just because it's a hijab, doesn't change what they did.

Ha. Note to self don't knock pennys hat off her head she'll be triggered. And have me up on assault charges.

Pim Pictus

The Honey Monster wrote: »

Have to feel sorry for her, imagine those brutes seeing her hair and neck! The shame...

You'd be distressed if two lads nicked the hat off your head as well. It's not a normal thing to do to a stranger.

Billy86

The Honey Monster wrote: »

Have to feel sorry for her, imagine those brutes seeing her hair and neck! The shame...

Honest question, if someone reefed you mother/daughter/sister/wife's handbag or coat off her in the middle of the street in England for being a 'Paddy' would you be grand with it?

PucaMama

how can pulling an item of clothing off someone in the street be seen as ok? have ye lost your minds??

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Pim Pictus wrote: »

You'd be distressed if two lads nicked the hat off your head as well. It's not a normal thing to do to a stranger.

I'm sorry but if someone took off my hat you can be damn sure it wouldn't be reported by the BBC as a "racially motivated attack" or as "an assault". It's absolutely beyond me that in 2016 that women are wearing a bloody postbox over their body to please the skygod.

Billy86

PucaMama wrote: »

how can pulling an item of clothing off someone in the street be seen as ok? have ye lost your minds??

Fucking Muzzie had it coming, her fault for being a Muzzie, rah rah rah...

Pim Pictus

The Honey Monster wrote: »

I'm sorry but if someone took off my hat you can be damn sure it wouldn't be reported by the BBC as a "racially motivated attack" or as "an assault". It's absolutely beyond me that in 2016 that women are wearing a bloody postbox over their body to please the skygod.

I was addressing your apparent lack of empathy for the woman in question. no idea what you're on about now but go for it anyway sure.

drdeadlift

Did anyone hear the story of the 19 year old girl stoned to death in saudi?

Samaris

Wait, so it's "more privilege" for a Muslim woman to have the sheer nerve to expect to be able to walk down the street without being accosted by two young morons and her clothing pulled away from her?

How dare she indeed. /eyeroll.

You know, I'd be pretty damn pissed off if two young idiots tried to pull any of my clothing off me either.

HoneyMonster - would you be annoyed if they ripped your shirt off then? Given breasts or, if you're male, your pants, cover parts of you that you don't show in public, maybe try thinking about it that way for just a moment. And either way, they had no right to snatch any of her clothing off her, whether or not you agree it's a sensible garb. It wasn't harming them, they were just dimwits.

PucaMama

The Honey Monster wrote: »

I'm sorry but if someone took off my hat you can be damn sure it wouldn't be reported by the BBC as a "racially motivated attack" or as "an assault". It's absolutely beyond me that in 2016 that women are wearing a bloody postbox over their body to please the skygod.

you know fine well the difference between your hat and what that woman was wearing dont play dumb to entertain your friends on here.

exactly what does a woman wearing what she wants do to you it has no impact on your life so but out.

anewme

But it is racially motivated. It happened because she was a Muslim, pure and simple.

cowardly bullies....note it was done on a woman...they knew well who they were picking on.

RayM

Jan Laco wrote: »

Should pranking school kids be charged when they pull a friends sports shorts down too?

"The first suspect is described as a white man, aged in his late 20s or early 30s"

"The second suspect is described as a man of Mediterranean appearance, aged in his late 20s or early 30s"

If the 'pranking school kids' are in their late 20s or early 30s, and their target is a lone woman going about her business, doing nothing whatsoever to harm them, then yes.

Billy86

PucaMama wrote: »

you know fine well the difference between your hat and what that woman was wearing dont play dumb to entertain your friends on here.

exactly what does a woman wearing what she wants do to you it has no impact on your life so but out.

Plus beyond the other obvious reason, a hat can be flicked off with a finger depending on the type it is.

I wonder how the same people grand with this would feel if it was their mother, sister, daughter or wife who had a handbag or coat ripped off them? Especially say if it were in England for being a Paddy?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

anewme wrote: »

But it is racially motivated. It happened because she was a Muslim, pure and simple.

cowardly bullies....note it was done on a woman...they knew well who they were picking on.

What are they gonna do, pull a hijab off a man?

Arthur.beaker

Pim Pictus wrote: »

You'd be distressed if two lads nicked the hat off your head as well. It's not a normal thing to do to a stranger.

Or took headphones off your head.

Arthur.beaker

Billy86 wrote: »

Fucking Muzzie had it coming, her fault for being a Muzzie, rah rah rah...

What is a Muzzie? Not a term I have previously encountered.

Robsweezie

its an attack on her dignity and personal space.

Samaris

In this case, presumably sarcasm.

qo2cj1dsne8y4k

No doubt they shouldn't have pulled it off her, but is it a serious enough assault to be reported all over the UK and Ireland? For example, in 2014 my brother was assaulted and moved to Beaumont hospital with a fractured skull and it didn't make the local paper.

How many of us went to secondary school where underwear was stretched nearly over your head? Or your bra constantly being snapped? People are scum, but there's much worse happening out there that's not making the papers. Real assault.

Jan Laco

Jan Laco wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37600532

Was expecting to read about an assault but it's a story about two guys who come from behind and pull down a girls hijab on a street in London.

Should this really be considered as an attack? Should pranking school kids be charged when they pull a friends sports shorts down too?

IMO it's more privilege for these muslims, who shouldn't be wearing hijab here in the first place.

Why shouldn't ' these muslims' be wearing a hijab?
Whats it got to do with you.
If I want to walk down the street wearing a cape like batman, is that any of your business? Should anyone be allowed pull it off me?

darkpagandeath

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

What is a Muzzie? Not a term I have previously encountered.

They tend to make up words like Islamophobia...

Samaris

LexieOnRale wrote: »

No doubt they shouldn't have pulled it off her, but is it a serious enough assault to be reported all over the UK and Ireland? For example, in 2014 my brother was assaulted and moved to Beaumont hospital with a fractured skull and it didn't make the local paper.

How many of us went to secondary school where underwear was stretched nearly over your head? Or your bra constantly being snapped? People are scum, but there's much worse happening out there that's not making the papers. Real assault.

And yet, look at this thread. Someone was interested enough in it to start a thread on it, albeit in a dismissive manner. Personally, I'm not sure it needs one, but whatever floats various boats.

anewme

The Honey Monster wrote: »

What are they gonna do, pull a hijab off a man?

Stop trying to be smart, it does not become you.

They should not be pulling anything off anyone.

If a trans sexual woman was walking up the street woukd it be ok to pull the dress off her. No it bloody well would not.

Don't some Muslim men wear robes? They knees well enough to target a woman, not a man.

You know well why they assaulted a woman, gutless cowards a 6ft guy would have planted them. And proper order.

Billy86

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

What is a Muzzie? Not a term I have previously encountered.

Slur for Muslim.

Arthur.beaker

bubblypop wrote: »

Why shouldn't ' these muslims' be wearing a hijab?
Whats it got to do with you.
If I want to walk down the street wearing a cape like batman, is that any of your business? Should anyone be allowed pull it off me?

The Joker might be or the Scarecrow guy?

darkpagandeath

Billy86 wrote: »

Slur for Muslim.

What's a Muslim ? You mean a member or a religion ?

b_mac2

Why don't ye self appointed Islam defenders, worry instead about the shocking/inhuman treatment of millons of women in the Middle East and North Africa.

Penny Tration

SterlingArcher wrote: »

Ha. Note to self don't knock pennys hat off her head she'll be triggered. And have me up on assault charges.

A hat is an accessory, cop on. A hijab is an article of clothing that they 'have' to wear.

I dislike Islam and I hate its rules, but it's not the same as knocking my beanie off my head.

Billy86

darkpagandeath wrote: »

What's a Muslim ? You mean a member or a religion ?

How would you feel if your mother, sister, daughter or wife who had a handbag or coat pulled off them on the street by strangers?

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

b_mac2 wrote: »

Why don't ye self appointed Islam defenders, worry instead about the shocking/inhuman treatment of millons of women in the Middle East and North Africa.

You can be sure that point won't be addressed here.

Samaris

b_mac2 wrote: »

Why don't ye self appointed Islam defenders, worry instead about the shocking/inhuman treatment of millons of women in the Middle East and North Africa.

Look at the first post, I doubt he's a "self-appointed Islam defender".

And also, it's a bit nuts that, when confronted by an attack on a Muslim woman close to home, you're suddenly -really concerned- about women in North Africa. I'm curious as to how often you talk about it - is it only when you're downplaying anything upsetting happening to one in the UK or Ireland?

darkpagandeath

Penny Tration wrote: »

A hat is an accessory, cop on. A hijab is an article of clothing that they 'have' to wear.

I dislike Islam and I hate its rules, but it's not the same as knocking my beanie off my head.

No they do not.

Billy86

The Honey Monster wrote: »

You can be sure that point won't be addressed here.

Hi, I already asked you but you seem reluctant to answer. What would your reaction be to some stranger pulling clothes off of your mother on the street?

Penny Tration

LexieOnRale wrote: »

No doubt they shouldn't have pulled it off her, but is it a serious enough assault to be reported all over the UK and Ireland? For example, in 2014 my brother was assaulted and moved to Beaumont hospital with a fractured skull and it didn't make the local paper.

How many of us went to secondary school where underwear was stretched nearly over your head? Or your bra constantly being snapped? People are scum, but there's much worse happening out there that's not making the papers. Real assault.

Agree with that 100%. Yes, it's assault, but let's face it, it's not a serious assault. If someone pulled her top off or something, maybe, but nothing bar her head, face, neck and hair were exposed.


Not pleasant, but not report-worthy either.

Penny Tration

darkpagandeath wrote: »

No they do not.

Hence the inverted commas in the post you quoted...

MEGA BRO WOLF 5000

Penny Tration wrote: »

Agree with that 100%. Yes, it's assault, but let's face it, it's not a serious assault. If someone pulled her top off or something, maybe, but nothing bar her head, face, neck and hair were exposed.


Not pleasant, but not report-worthy either.

It's being reported because "Islamophobia" is the new clickbait.

Arthur.beaker

Billy86 wrote: »

How would you feel if your mother, sister, daughter or wife who had a handbag or coat pulled off them on the street by strangers?

These are everyday occurrences that don't make headline news.

Haithabu

Jan Laco wrote: »

(...) who shouldn't be wearing hijab here in the first place.

... so in your eyes the men who did that to her were just enforcing the law then ? Will you tell us next they should get a medal for their noble deeds ?

Samaris

Penny Tration wrote: »

Agree with that 100%. Yes, it's assault, but let's face it, it's not a serious assault. If someone pulled her top off or something, maybe, but nothing bar her head, face, neck and hair were exposed.


Not pleasant, but not report-worthy either.

Not pleasant, and, to our eyes, not report-worthy. But our culture means that ripping the blouse off someone would be considered particularly horrible and invasive. In her culture, ripping her headgear off is. In terms of upset and violation caused, she does feel much the same as you might if your top was pulled off.

And as another note on the "why aren't you talking about the terrible things happening elsewhere", petty bullying being normalised is the sort of thing that leads on to worse things. Don't accept the petty bullying just because no-one's dead. Letting this **** be considered acceptable is what leads on to other harassment becoming acceptable. Like petrol-bombing shops, which has happened several times now to Muslims in the UK.

Billy86

Arthur.beaker wrote: »

These are everyday occurrences that don't make headline news.

Doesn't answer my question. Some people here seem absolutely grand with Muslim women having articles of clothing torn off them by strangers on the street... yet none of them seem to want to answer how they would feel about their own mothers or daughters having their clothes ripped off them by strangers in public.