Knife Attack London

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-08-2016 4:03pm

Widdershins wrote: »

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

The Daily Mail is irrelevant .
Heat Street only translated the inquiry and your ''rebuttal '' described it as having ''dredged up''. How tasteless of them to ''dredge'' it up. Better to brush it under the carpet. In keeping with the policy of keeping quiet lest we inflame racism or glorify terrorism or encourage copycats . Therefore why waste my time providing a link to it since you ignored it in favour of a snopes article attempting to rubbish it.

I'm happy to agree to disagree with you if that is required for you to refrain from accusing me (and all involved ) of lying, thereby leaving little option but to reply and drag the thread out forever .

But you did post lies! Any who, moving on.

Widdershins · 05-08-2016 4:06pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Widdershins wrote: »

But you did post lies! Any who, moving on.

No I did not . Are you finished ?

Widdershins · 05-08-2016 4:10pm

LuckyRoche wrote: »

Don't forget the Cologne cover up.

Wasting your time

:(

BalcombeSt4 · 05-08-2016 4:53pm

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The Cucks denied that mass islamic immigration would cause social issues and that we a wacists we questioned it. Now that all of people's fears came through, the Cucks are now denying that mass and copycat stabbings are even a newsworthy issue.

They are desperately trying to convince themselves that they were not wrong. One thing that left wingers cling onto in life is that they think they are more intelligent that others (and they'll be the first to tell you). This is despite predominantly working is low paid jobs and having severe social and personal issues. The fact they have been proven wrong kills their false belief that they are intelligent.

I know I'd rather listen to "leftys" like Noam Chomsky, Tony benn & Norman Finkelstein (maybe the greatest moral of our time) than people like Nick Griffin & Sean Hannity, Alan dershowitz & David Duke & I'd say those "leftys" are a lot more intelligent & just have more basic common sense.

Calahonda52 · 05-08-2016 5:00pm

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

I know I'd rather listen to "leftys" like Noam Chomsky, Tony benn & Norman Finkelstein than people like Nick Griffin & Sean Hannity, Alan dershowitz & David Duke & I'd say those "leftys" are a lot more intelligent & just have more basic common sense.

They are lightweights in comparison to the man who called it in 1968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech#Speech

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal

BalcombeSt4 · 05-08-2016 5:05pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No

Suicide bomber blows up 10 civilians = terrorist attack

Drone blows up 10 civilians = terrorist attack

But yeah the drone is operated by the good guys right so it's OK?

I don't sympathise with anyone who kills innocent civilians

Exactly. Tony Benn made the same argument between a stealth bomber & suicide bomber when he was alive, saying both kill people for political reasons.

Arturo Bandini · 05-08-2016 5:10pm

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

I know I'd rather listen to "leftys" like Noam Chomsky

What about leftys like Sam Harris?

BalcombeSt4 · 05-08-2016 5:13pm

Calahonda52 wrote: »

They are lightweights in comparison to the man who called it in 1968
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rivers_of_Blood_speech#Speech

As I look ahead, I am filled with foreboding. Like the Roman, I seem to see "the River Tiber foaming with much blood". That tragic and intractable phenomenon which we watch with horror on the other side of the Atlantic but which there is interwoven with the history and existence of the States itself, is coming upon us here by our own volition and our own neglect. Indeed, it has all but come. In numerical terms, it will be of American proportions long before the end of the century. Only resolute and urgent action will avert it even now. Whether there will be the public will to demand and obtain that action, I do not know. All I know is that to see, and not to speak, would be the great betrayal

When people on here say things like that the left are living in a fantasy land & the right are living in the real but harsh world I'd love to know what right-wing people there talking about. I know some people quote Chris Hitchens but he himself was a former Trotskyist & still held Socialist ideas up until his death, same with David Anittavich (spelling) who was a former Maoist.

BalcombeSt4 · 05-08-2016 5:21pm

Arturo Bandini wrote: »

What about leftys like Sam Harris?

I'd put him in the same league as Bill maher, they hold liberal values but are attention seeking bigots which is something they share with the right. Nigel farage is more liberal in his views towards Muslims than Sam Harris.

I'm an atheist but I believe in religious freedom & do believe Muslims have been unfairly misrepresented since around 9/11.

I rememer Maher saying during the 2014 Gaza massacre that its time for Palestinians to move out of Israel. Were to Bill you ****ing idiot & how are they suppose to leave Gaza?

Sweetemotion · 05-08-2016 5:32pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

No

Suicide bomber blows up 10 civilians = terrorist attack

Drone blows up 10 civilians = terrorist attack

But yeah the drone is operated by the good guys right so it's OK?

I don't sympathise with anyone who kills innocent civilians

Ohhhh the irony in that...

Coming from an ex British soldier lol.

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-08-2016 5:37pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Ohhhh the irony in that...

Coming from an ex British soldier lol.

And your point is?

Sweetemotion · 05-08-2016 5:42pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

And your point is?

Nothing more to say, that is all.

Timberrrrrrrr · 05-08-2016 5:50pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Nothing more to say, that is all.

So you just decide to bring up a job I did 25 years ago out of the blue? Childish at best, stalkerish and freaky at worse

RUn along now kiddo you obviously have nothing constructive to add to the conversation

LuckyRoche · 05-08-2016 7:13pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Ohhhh the irony in that...

Coming from an ex British soldier lol.

An ex squaddie lecturing Paddy!

BalcombeSt4 · 05-08-2016 8:37pm

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you just decide to bring up a job I did 25 years ago out of the blue? Childish at best, stalkerish and freaky at worse

RUn along now kiddo you obviously have nothing constructive to add to the conversation

What army & reg were you in & where did you do your war stuff?

Little CuChulainn · 05-08-2016 8:55pm

Is this the best you lot can do? Can't argue a point so attack the poster?

Mary63 · 05-08-2016 11:14pm

The Boston Bombers had grown up in America too and availed of every opportunity to do well there.

More second generation immigrants.

Why on earth does anyone think the outcomes are gong to be different for the thousands trying to force their way into Europe now.

Billy86 · 05-08-2016 11:50pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Nothing more to say, that is all.

Elephant blueprint. There. Squabble seven.

That post made about about as much sense as this 'witty quips' you seem to think you have made.

And it seems to have completely flown over your head that many soldiers tend to have far stronger opinions on life and death and the horrible, pointless nature of war and murder than the average non-military person, and find it even more upsetting, because they have been so much more exposed to it than most of the rest of us. But yeah, feel free to sneer away at the guy if it makes you feel smart - certainly doesn't make you look it, though.

LuckyRoche · 06-08-2016 7:09am

Mary63 wrote: »

The Boston Bombers had grown up in America too and availed of every opportunity to do well there.

More second generation immigrants.

Why on earth does anyone think the outcomes are gong to be different for the thousands trying to force their way into Europe now.

It's nothing to do with immigration apparently. Just mental health issues! This attack is an impressive example of how our law enforcement authorities are able to make an on-site instantaneous medical assessment of someone's mental capacity, yet ironically seem to need weeks to draw any conclusions about the assailant's national origin, religious background, or cultural influences.

Little CuChulainn · 06-08-2016 8:02am

Mary63 wrote: »

The Boston Bombers had grown up in America too and availed of every opportunity to do well there.

More second generation immigrants.

Why on earth does anyone think the outcomes are gong to be different for the thousands trying to force their way into Europe now.

Why do you think the outcome would be different by stopping people coming in now? The people who are doing these things are already here for the most part, and have been for some time. These aren't sleeper agents with a plan. There is obviously something pushing them to this radicalisation within the countries they actually live in and are born in. Why don't you want to address those issues instead of hope to stop terrorism through attrition over twenty years?

LuckyRoche wrote: »

It's nothing to do with immigration apparently. Just mental health issues! This attack is an impressive example of how our law enforcement authorities are able to make an on-site instantaneous medical assessment of someone's mental capacity, yet ironically seem to need weeks to draw any conclusions about the assailant's national origin, religious background, or cultural influences.

Did you consider that they may have encountered him before? I doubt you can back up our claim with any empirical evidence. In nearly all the incidents I can think of in the last while, the nationalities of the suspects have been known within 24 hours. Only three or four have been put down to mental issues.

I'm more impressed at peoples ability to rule out mental health issues knowing nothing but a persons nationality or religion.

The_Kew_Tour · 06-08-2016 9:35am

Little CuChulainn wrote: »

Are you telling me what I meant or giving me a grammar lesson? I don't know which is the sadder tactic.

Ok then, tell me these Bombings that go unnoticed?

Mary63 · 06-08-2016 11:43am

its absolutely terrible for people who have genuine mental health issues to hear this complaint being trotted out time after time to explain this barbarism.There are millions and millions of people living with mental health difficulties and they dont kill innocent people.How come Muslims with mental health issues are so dangerous and other people with the same difficulties arent.

Skylinehead · 06-08-2016 12:03pm

Boom_Bap wrote: »

MOD
Stop turning this into a thread on immigration.

This isn't being heeded, nobodies mentioned the actual attack this thread is about for a long time. Closed.

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