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Season 6 Episode 9 "Battle of the Bastards" - Speculation Thread

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    #92
    intheclouds
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    blackwhite wrote: »
    You from Leitrim by any chance? :D

    (although I believe you are correct - Westeros also follows the Leitrim/Alabama rules on cousin-riding).

    Actually its not incest anywhere to be riding your first cousin - its just the Catholics have to get permission from Rome to marry a first cousin - but thats canon law not real law ;)

    Disclaimer - I have not been riding my cousins.


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    #93
    blackwhite
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    intheclouds wrote: »
    Actually its not incest anywhere to be riding your first cousin - its just the Catholics have to get permission from Rome to marry a first cousin - but thats canon law not real law ;)

    Disclaimer - I have not been riding my cousins.

    More than half States in the US have cousin-marriage defined as incest and prohibited on their statute books, and it's even a criminal offence in a number of them.

    Lesson - be careful where you go on holidays in the states if you hail from Shelbyville :pac:


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    #94
    intheclouds
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    blackwhite wrote: »
    More than half States in the US have cousin-marriage defined as incest and prohibited on their statute books, and it's even a criminal offence in a number of them.

    Lesson - be careful where you go on holidays in the states if you hail from Shelbyville :pac:

    Wow! Never knew that!


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    #95
    EagererBeaver
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    I think focusing on the battle for the Iron Throne is missing the point. If Tommen dies, very few will have any interest in opposing Dany - Stark and Tully don't want it, all the Barratheons are dead and no Lannisters or Tyrrell's have a tight unless Tommen gets to work on Margaery quickly.

    What's important is how Dany and her bloodlust and dragons get turned north to fight the White Walkers.


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    #96
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    Degag wrote: »
    Someone big is going to die and i think Tormund has served his purpose.

    I'd take a punt on Brienne as well, agree that it feels like a big death is coming but Tormund is still useful to rally the Wildlings when they don't listen to Jon. She's pretty much done everything she's supposed to, and she had that lingering goodbye stare with Jaime last week, which seems like it's a death sentence for one of them if I know my TV. Of course she'd have to get back in time with no horse, but feck it, why not?


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    #97
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    Giselle Many Turpentine wrote: »
    I'd take a punt on Brienne as well, agree that it feels like a big death is coming but Tormund is still useful to rally the Wildlings when they don't listen to Jon. She's pretty much done everything she's supposed to, and she had that lingering goodbye stare with Jaime last week, which seems like it's a death sentence for one of them if I know my TV. Of course she'd have to get back in time with no horse, but feck it, why not?

    Speaking of which, I got nervous for Tyrion once I heard him talking about his dream of opening his own vineyard someday. Tyrion, you fool, announcing your life's goals in this show is the easiest way of making the devil laugh.


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    #98
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    stankratz wrote: »
    Speaking of which, I got nervous for Tyrion once I heard him talking about his dream of opening his own vineyard someday. Tyrion, you fool, announcing your life's goals in this show is the easiest way of making the devil laugh.

    Retire-ony I believe it's called


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    #99
    rawn
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    J. Marston wrote: »
    Cersei is on trial for fornication, incest, treason and the murder of King Bobby.

    She's definitely dead if she loses.

    I think that's just in the books


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    #100
    nynik
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    Pycel is the grand-maester right? But he clearly can't be running the show from King's Landing, plus... he's a bit of a ditz. Is this elaborated at all in the books so far? Thanks.


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    #101
    EagererBeaver
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    nynik wrote: »
    Pycel is the grand-maester right? But he clearly can't be running the show from King's Landing, plus... he's a bit of a ditz. Is this elaborated at all in the books so far? Thanks.

    What do you mean by running the show? He's an adviser, not a ruler.


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    #102
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    I'd be throwing a cautious eye towards Littlefinger and his Knights of the Vale. LF did previously state in the show that his intention was to sit on the sidelines and watch the great houses consume each other, then he would walk in and take victory from the broken victors. This episode sets up the perfect chance for that to happen.


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    #103
    J. Marston
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    rawn wrote: »
    I think that's just in the books

    Show too, so says Qyburn...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OAnkxbOyfm0


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    #104
    duploelabs
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    nynik wrote: »
    Pycel is the grand-maester right? But he clearly can't be running the show from King's Landing, plus... he's a bit of a ditz. Is this elaborated at all in the books so far? Thanks.



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    #105
    leonil7
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    could be melisandre do some lord of the light fire show and scare the bolton armies the last moment. i mean even if she simply removes that necklace alone, a lot of soldiers will run scared.


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    #106
    EagererBeaver
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    leonil7 wrote: »
    could be melisandre do some lord of the light fire show and scare the bolton armies the last moment. i mean even if she simply removes that necklace alone, a lot of soldiers will run scared.

    Shirtless Ramsay would be all over that. Can't have a good battle without raping a few great great great great great grannies.


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    #107
    golfball37
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    History tends to repeat itself. I reckon Ramsay opens the proverbial gates to his allies the Lannisters just as Aerys did, and gets just as big a shock.


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    #108
    Cantstandsya
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    nynik wrote: »
    Pycel is the grand-maester right? But he clearly can't be running the show from King's Landing, plus... he's a bit of a ditz. Is this elaborated at all in the books so far? Thanks.


    Not as big a ditz as he makes out:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMXJlUIQP94


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    #109
    ArmaniJeanss
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    EagererBeaver wrote: »
    her children are the one thing Cersei truly cares about. In Season 2, Tyrion told her it was her only redeeming feature.

    That, and her cheekbones. :)


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    #110
    bnt
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    One website I saw today raised an interesting possibility: now that Riverrun has been taken, Jamie may head back to King's Landing (despite being banished by Tommen), and may get there in time for Cersei's trial. At that point he may learn that she cheated on him with Lancel, leading to a rift between them. I'd go so far as to say that possibility has been foreshadowed by his intense declarations of undying love for her ... setting him up for some serious disappointment.

    We haven't seen Margaery for a while, but we know she's something of a "sleeper" agent within the Faith Militant now, and so it remains to be seen what part she'll play in the resolution of that problem. If it goes against the Faith - which I would not want to assume at this point - Tommen has some harsh life lessons ahead of him ...

    From out there on the moon, international politics look so petty. You want to grab a politician by the scruff of the neck and drag him a quarter of a million miles out and say, ‘Look at that, you son of a bitch’.

    — Edgar Mitchell, Apollo 14 Astronaut



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    #111
    PressRun
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    I think it'll probably turn out fairly predictably. Rickon will be dead when they arrive. The battle will seem lost (with perhaps the death of Davos taking place) and the knights of the Vale will swoop in just in the nick of time to save the day.


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    #112
    homerun_homer
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    Everyone is obsessed with Davos dying!! :(


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    #113
    intheclouds
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    Have we seen the scene from the season promo yet where Ramsay says "Do you like to play games little man?".


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    #114
    J. Marston
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    homerun_homer wrote: »
    Everyone is obsessed with Davos dieing!! :(

    It'll hurt less if you're prepared for it.

    Stannis went out sat on his arse (admittedly, he led from the front and took out two when he was fecked but still...), Davos will go down in a blaze of glory.


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    #115
    lbj666
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    PressRun wrote: »
    I think it'll probably turn out fairly predictably. Rickon will be dead when they arrive. The battle will seem lost (with perhaps the death of Davos taking place) and the knights of the Vale will swoop in just in the nick of time to save the day.

    This is what I am worried about this is built up as by far the biggest battle GOT has done and shown on the show but I sincerely hope they haven't forgotten that its the outcome and the movement chess pieces involved in all is what people are intrigued by.

    I mean if we are taken on cinematic rollercoaster and see the greatest battle even to be done on screen but for it to be simply deciphered at the end by what side Littlefinger and the Vale takes in the whole thing (even if he screws Sansa over) and I am going to be disappointed.

    I am hope the Vale is just part of the equation.


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    #116
    PressRun
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    I think Baelish will have a big say. He's likely going to save Jon and Sansa from certain defeat and will probably want something in return, probably some sort of control over the North. I don't think he'll want Jon in the picture though, just Sansa.


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    #117
    leonil7
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    sansa will die.. and resurrected as the lady stoneheart ?

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    #118
    leonil7
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    this is like the roman legions vs the barbarians. wunwun should use a weapon like a long club, tree trunk, or big sword or chain as weapon to even the odds.

    7ofg5n7v7j13tj46g.jpg


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    #119
    CMOTDibbler
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    leonil7 wrote: »
    this is like the roman legions vs the barbarians. wunwun should use a weapon like a long club, tree trunk, or big sword or chain as weapon to even the odds.

    7ofg5n7v7j13tj46g.jpg

    Those shields look like they could be difficult to fight behind.


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    #120
    GerB40
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    CMOTDibbler wrote: »
    Those shields look like they could be difficult to fight behind.

    More to the point, they look difficult to get behind...


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    #121
    Canadel
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    GerB40 wrote: »
    More to the point, they look difficult to get behind...
    Yeah, especially with arrows and Ramsay knows what raining down on you.


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