Would the PIRA be talked about differently if they achieved a United Ireland?

Lurkio · 23-05-2016 10:57pm

maryishere wrote: »

No, the Gardai and Irish army did not provide the loyalists with info or arms. The Loyalist terrorists were poorly armed compared with Republican terrorists. .

....well, perhaps if they had the wherewithal to go off and get some as opposed to hanging round outside the BA and UDR base to see what billy smuggled out in his lunchbox they would have a better arsenal.

Fratton Fred · 23-05-2016 10:57pm

Sweetemotion wrote: »

Maybe you can explain these?

So that makes bombing a crowded pub full of civilians ok?

steddyeddy · 23-05-2016 10:59pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Maybe you could explain how throwing a bomb in to a crowded pub in London, protecting the nationalist community?

Whilst their intentions may have been noble, a great many of their actions were not.

Agree completly.

Sweetemotion · 23-05-2016 11:04pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

So that makes bombing a crowded pub full of civilians ok?

Do you condemn those war crimes?

BalcombeSt4 · 24-05-2016 5:03pm

Fratton Fred wrote: »

Ironically, The Balcombe street gang threw bombs into pubs and restaurants, in a similar manner to the Paris attack, just not as spectacular.

Yeah, there's a pretty spectacular difference with killing a handful of soldiers who's Army is terrorisng apart of your country and killing 100's of civilians because they don't happen to share the same religious ideas as you.

How did the Balcombe Street siege go? All hostages out safe and sound, how many ISIS sieges can you say that of?

Altnaveigh Massacre - 17 Protestants massacred and the man behind it is a celebrated figure in this country among the political class and FF fanboys, biggest load of hypocrites going.

LordSutch · 24-05-2016 6:08pm

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

Yeah....

Yeah, with a new like that you probably think you have the biggest kahunas in town, right?

The Balcombe Street Gang indeed, what a gang of nasty people, and you name yourself after them :cool:

Don't expect to be taken seriously on here among us "Non PIRA types.

Lurkio · 24-05-2016 6:13pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Yeah, with a new like that you probably think you have the biggest kahunas in town, right?

The Balcombe Street Gang indeed, what a gang of nasty people, and you name yourself after them :cool:

Don't expect to be taken seriously on here among us "Non PIRA types.

You could make that into a t-shirt for yourselves.

BalcombeSt4 · 24-05-2016 6:21pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Yeah, with a new like that you probably think you have the biggest kahunas in town, right?

The Balcombe Street Gang indeed, what a gang of nasty people, and you name yourself after them :cool:

Don't expect to be taken seriously on here among us "Non PIRA types.

Don't worry, nobody takes anything you have to say seriously.

And "us here" would that be you, Fred and the Loyalist nutter? Wow, that's a big community of non IRA types.

LordSutch · 24-05-2016 6:25pm

Lurkio wrote: »

You could make that into a t-shirt for yourselves.

Or maybe something like "They haven't gone away you know" or how about a "Sniper at work" T-shirt?

You just love strutting around here with that Username don't you BalcomeSt4, knowing that most posters don't remember how many people your beloved gang killed .....

steddyeddy · 24-05-2016 6:26pm

So we judge an organisation as a whole or by its worst atrocities? Are the IRA simply Warrington bombers killing young Tim Parry and are the British army murderers of unarmed civilians who shoot civil rights demonstrators in the back?

Both sides have their atrocities.

Lurkio · 24-05-2016 6:28pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Or maybe something like "They haven't gone away you know" or how about a "Sniper at work" T-shirt?

.....

That would be a good look for ye, it has to be said. Would look a bit odd on the washing line with the "Non-PIRA Type" though.

BalcombeSt4 · 24-05-2016 6:32pm

LordSutch wrote: »

Or maybe something like "They haven't gone away you know" or how about a "Sniper at work" T-shirt?

You just love strutting around here with that Username don't you BalcomeSt4, knowing that most posters don't remember how many people your beloved gang killed .....

More anger at all the people killed in Dublin by your UVF & British Army mates that people don't remember.

And I'm very proud of every Volunteer of the Republic who did their duty.

Fratton Fred · 24-05-2016 7:29pm

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

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And I'm very proud of every Volunteer of the Republic who did their duty.

I'm sure you are.

LordSutch · 24-05-2016 7:33pm

BalcombeSt4 wrote: »

And I'm very proud of every Volunteer of the Republic who did their duty.

So you condone what the Balcome Street Gang did.

Are you for real.

LordSutch · 24-05-2016 7:36pm

The smilies sum it all up for me.

great fun, eh!

tomwaterford · 24-05-2016 7:37pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The smilies sum it all up for me.

great fun, eh!

It's the truth is it not??

LordSutch · 24-05-2016 7:40pm

The truth of the Balcome Street Gang is as follows, and its not funny!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/28/death-list-ira-balcombe-street

tomwaterford · 24-05-2016 7:44pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The truth of the Balcome Street Gang is as follows, and its not funny!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/28/death-list-ira-balcombe-street

Not said it was funny

Just pointing out...despite you not liking them people voted for there release?

maryishere · 24-05-2016 7:55pm

tomwaterford wrote: »

Not said it was funny

but you condoned and praised the sick terrorists behind such atrocities. By the way, in every election (North , South and in Britain) the majority of voters voted for parties which condemned the PIRA. Not surprising as the PIRA murdered democratically elected politicians in the North , South and in Britain. And constituents in all jurisdictions.

LordSutch · 24-05-2016 7:55pm

The Balcombe St4 / Gang.

After serving 23 years in English jails for their reign of terror, the four men were transferred to the high security wing of Portlaoise Prison, 50 miles (80 km) west of Dublin, in early 1998. They were presented by Gerry Adams to the 1998 Sinn Féin Ard Fheis as ‘our Nelson Mandelas’, and were released together with Brendan Dowd and Liam Quinn in 1999 as part of the Good Friday Agreement.

Thats what the people voted for.
Please note Tom.

tomwaterford · 24-05-2016 8:03pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The Balcombe St4 / Gang.

After serving 23 years in English jails for their reign of terror, the four men were transferred to the high security wing of Portlaoise Prison, 50 miles (80 km) west of Dublin, in early 1998. They were presented by Gerry Adams to the 1998 Sinn Féin Ard Fheis as ‘our Nelson Mandelas’, and were released together with Brendan Dowd and Liam Quinn in 1999 as part of the Good Friday Agreement.

Thats what the people voted for.
Please note Tom.

If they didn't support releasing them or 100% the GFA they could've voted no

Make what you will of this new information

JPNelsforearm · 24-05-2016 8:07pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The truth of the Balcome Street Gang is as follows, and its not funny!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/oct/28/death-list-ira-balcombe-street

Pity they didnt succeed.

steddyeddy · 24-05-2016 8:10pm

LordSutch wrote: »

The smilies sum it all up for me.

great fun, eh!

A bit rich coming from someone who posts like you do dude

davycc · 24-05-2016 8:13pm

maryishere wrote: »

but you condoned and praised the sick terrorists behind such atrocities. By the way, in every election (North , South and in Britain) the majority of voters voted for parties which condemned the PIRA. Not surprising as the PIRA murdered democratically elected politicians in the North , South and in Britain. And constituents in all jurisdictions.

links please ,cant think of any off the top of my head, obviously you can with a rant that specific ...

davycc · 24-05-2016 8:17pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

So we judge an organisation as a whole or by its worst atrocities? Are the IRA simply Warrington bombers killing young Tim Parry and are the British army murderers of unarmed civilians who shoot civil rights demonstrators in the back?

Both sides have their atrocities.

probably the best post of the thread so far imho - agree 100%

marienbad · 24-05-2016 8:28pm

steddyeddy wrote: »

So we judge an organisation as a whole or by its worst atrocities? Are the IRA simply Warrington bombers killing young Tim Parry and are the British army murderers of unarmed civilians who shoot civil rights demonstrators in the back?

Both sides have their atrocities.

Except one side had a mandate and the other did not .

maryishere · 24-05-2016 8:31pm

Not surprising as the PIRA murdered democratically elected politicians in the North , South and in Britain.

davycc wrote: »

links please ,cant think of any off the top of my head, obviously you can with a rant that specific ...

Anyone with even basic knowledge of the "troubles" would know of politicians murdered in N. Ireland, Rep of Ireland and in Britain. Google for yourself if your reading / education does not extend beyond "an Phoblocht".

tomwaterford · 24-05-2016 8:33pm

maryishere wrote: »

Not surprising as the PIRA murdered democratically elected politicians in the North , South and in Britain.

Anyone with even basic knowledge of the "troubles" would know of politicians murdered in N. Ireland, Rep of Ireland and in Britain. Google for yourself if your reading / education does not extend beyond "an Phoblocht".

But yet you can't provide proof of elected politians killed the pira :rolleyes:

maryishere · 24-05-2016 8:34pm

marienbad wrote: »

Except one side had a mandate and the other did not .

And one side planned their numerous atrocities months or certainly weeks in advance.

tomwaterford · 24-05-2016 8:34pm

maryishere wrote: »

And one side planned their numerous atrocities months or certainly weeks in advance.

Collusion wasn't an overnight thing alright neither was bloody sunday

Would the PIRA be talked about differently if they achieved a United Ireland?

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