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    #122
    Speedwell
    Registered Users Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    Not everybody loves your child.

    And the ones who do give a damn about your tot, we want you to also respect the child's ability to cope in public, please.


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    #123
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    screamer wrote: »
    And do you think that parents want their child to cry and be upset? have you ever been on the receiving end of a nosy old busy body giving you daggers or smart comments? If not let me tell you the last thing you need is some busy body coming to your table telling you to keep it down. Babies don't have volume switches in case you don't know.

    Ya but people have to right to have their meal in comfort.


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    #124
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    wokingvoter wrote: »
    Ok. I've gone to an eating house on my one hour lunch break
    I've been seated beside you and your baby
    You've had your food and now your enjoying your coffee and your playing peek a boo with your baby and she's shrieking with delight as described by the OP
    I really wanted to listen to the News at One on my headphones but your shrieking baby means I can't hear.
    So I plug out the headphones and just turn up the volume on my iPhone to max and place it on the table so I can listen and eat
    Now your baby is crying because the radio is so loud.
    Is that ok?
    Yes so long as you can find the volume switch on my baby same as your iPad.. ...

    Seriously the last few posts just prove what I said the attitude towards babies children and families in restaurants in Ireland stinks.


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    #125
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Speedwell wrote: »
    And the ones who do give a damn about your tot, we want you to also respect the child's ability to cope in public, please.

    :confused:


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    #126
    screamer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,134 ✭✭✭screamer


    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    Ya but people have to right to have their meal in comfort.

    In your head maybe in the real world I know if no peaceful meal law.......


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    #127
    thattequilagirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    screamer wrote: »
    And do you think that parents want their child to cry and be upset? have you ever been on the receiving end of a nosy old busy body giving you daggers or smart comments? If not let me tell you the last thing you need is some busy body coming to your table telling you to keep it down. Babies don't have volume switches in case you don't know.

    I've seen plenty of parents ignore their infants crying. Not small babies but definitely two and three year olds.

    You didn't answer my question - if a child is bawling, and obviously upset, the parents are stressed out over it and the other diners are having their meals spoiled by it, what is the benefit in staying?

    Literally no one is enjoying themselves.


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    #128
    Speedwell
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    :confused:

    Nobody is asking you to care about other people's children, Alan, but I do in fact care about them, and when someone is too damn selfish to take care of their children's social and emotional needs in a public place (including respectfully and gently isolating a child having a meltdown), it makes me think the parent doesn't care about their own child.


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    #129
    AryaStark
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    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    Nobody is objecting to kids being in a restaurant. The point is, if an infant is bawling (s)he obviously isn't having a good time, the parents will struggle to have a good time and the other diners nearby won't have a good time.

    So who actually benefits in your scenario?

    But in this case the baby was laughing and excited... not crying!


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    #130
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Nobody is asking you to care about other people's children, Alan, but I do in fact care about them, and when someone is too damn selfish to take care of their children's social and emotional needs in a public place (including respectfully and gently isolating a child having a meltdown), it makes me think the parent doesn't care about their own child.

    I think we are on the same side here.


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    #131
    screamer
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    AryaStark wrote: »
    But in this case the baby was laughing and excited... not crying!

    Exactly so evict the family with a happy baby evict the family with a crying baby...... so others can have a peaceful meal and the family can go hungry..... nice people really nice.


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    #132
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    AryaStark wrote: »
    But in this case the baby was laughing and excited... not crying!

    The decibel level can still be the same.


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    #133
    thattequilagirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    AryaStark wrote: »
    But in this case the baby was laughing and excited... not crying!

    In that particular scenario, I think it would have been more courteous of the parent to play a quieter game with his child.

    It's not the law, screamer, but it is manners.


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    #134
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    screamer wrote: »
    Exactly so evict the family with a happy baby evict the family with a crying baby...... so others can have a peaceful meal and the family can go hungry..... nice people really nice.

    What do you suggest instead, get the restaurant to supply ear plugs!!!


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    #135
    screamer
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    What do you suggest instead, get the restaurant to supply ear plugs!!!

    If it makes old curmudgeons happy then why not


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    #136
    One eyed Jack
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    screamer wrote: »
    In your head maybe in the real world I know if no peaceful meal law.......


    It's just basic consideration for other people. You mentioned earlier Ireland's "stinking" attitude to babies and families, but if you're going to come out with nonsense like the above, you should expect the same attitude in return. You're not the only person in that scenario and in the real world, the world doesn't revolve around you and your children.


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    #137
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    screamer wrote: »
    If it makes old curmudgeons happy then why not

    Ageist now are we.


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    #138
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,209 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    It's just basic consideration for other people. You mentioned earlier Ireland's "stinking" attitude to babies and families, but if you're going to come out with nonsense like the above, you should expect the same attitude in return. You're not the only person in that scenario and in the real world, the world doesn't revolve around you and your children.

    I wish I could have said it this well.


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    #139
    Tilly
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    screamer wrote: »
    If it makes old curmudgeons happy then why not

    That's like saying we could just gag your baby too so!


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    #140
    One eyed Jack
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    screamer wrote: »
    Exactly so evict the family with a happy baby evict the family with a crying baby...... so others can have a peaceful meal and the family can go hungry..... nice people really nice.


    Nice to see you keep things in proportion... :rolleyes:


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    #141
    screamer
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    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    In that particular scenario, I think it would have been more courteous of the parent to play a quieter game with his child.

    It's not the law, screamer, but it is manners.

    I look forward to your best seller on quieter games to control babies reaction in public and other social settings ..... ha ha.


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    #142
    ceadaoin.
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    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    I've seen plenty of parents ignore their infants crying. Not small babies but definitely two and three year olds.

    You didn't answer my question - if a child is bawling, and obviously upset, the parents are stressed out over it and the other diners are having their meals spoiled by it, what is the benefit in staying?

    Literally no one is enjoying themselves.

    so teach 2 and 3 year olds that when they are bored or don't want to do something, all they have to do is cry for a bit and the rest of the family will drop everything and leave. What could possibly go wrong with that?


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    #143
    Keane2baMused
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    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    so teach 2 and 3 year olds that when they are bored or don't want to do something, all they have to do is cry for a bit and the rest of the family will drop everything and leave. What could possibly go wrong with that?

    Very true statement to be fair.

    There has to be a balance.


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    #144
    screamer
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    Ageist now are we.

    As are a lot of people here with problems with babies it seems.


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    #145
    thattequilagirl
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭thattequilagirl


    screamer wrote: »
    Exactly so evict the family with a happy baby evict the family with a crying baby...... so others can have a peaceful meal and the family can go hungry..... nice people really nice.

    Are you for real?

    Nobody is suggesting letting a family go hungry, but if your kids aren't old enough or well-behaved enough to enjoy a meal out at reasonable volumes for other diners you could

    - cook at home
    - enjoy a lovely takeaway
    - get a babysitter/granny/uncle/aunt to feed the kids while you have a lovely night out with your OH

    What you're basically saying is your 'right' to have an enjoyable meal out on your terms is more important than that of all the other people in the restaurant who just want to enjoy a nice meal.

    As I said earlier, when you go out you choose a place as much for the ambience as for the food, so loud screaming (happy or sad) would totally ruin that.


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    #146
    Speedwell
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    screamer wrote: »
    As are a lot of people here with problems with babies it seems.

    I think a lot of us don't have a problem with the poor kid trying to learn to be a human in public. We have a problem with the parents who have failed to learn to be humans in public.


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    #147
    screamer
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    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    It's just basic consideration for other people.

    Pity that consideration doesn't extend to the family with a small child isn't it.......


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    #148
    MonkieSocks
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    thattequilagirl wrote: »
    In that particular scenario, I think it would have been more courteous of the parent to play a quieter game with his child. .

    Mime would be good :p

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



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    #149
    FizzleSticks
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    #150
    thattequilagirl
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    screamer wrote: »
    Pity that consideration doesn't extend to the family with a small child isn't it.......

    I feel very sorry for the child in the scenario who is being dragged somewhere it doesn't want to be because it's parents want to be there. I've never heard a three-year-old say "Let's go somewhere nice for lunch" Stop pretending this is an attack on the child, it's not.


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    #151
    Thelomen Toblackai
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    I think everyone should be respectful of other people in public and part of that is not being overly loud. If the father was doing something that was causing the kid to make noise the woman was dead right to ask him to stop.

    It's just a pity someone had to actually say it to him and he didn't have enough cop on to understand it himself.


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