Student Paramedic 2016

stevie06

NAS are recruiting for student paramedics closing date 19th April at noon.

http://www.hse.ie/eng/staff/Jobs/Job_Search/Patient_and_Client_Care/NRS03787.html

Good luck

honreal

You also need to have your C1 license BEFORE the closing date of the 19th. I find this a bit harsh on people but that's their choice.

Bang Bang

honreal wrote: »

You also need to have your C1 license BEFORE the closing date of the 19th. I find this a bit harsh on people but that's their choice.

People who are genuinely interested in a career as a Paramedic would have, or should have their research done and be prepared. It's common knowledge since the 2008 recruitment that a C1 Drivers Licence is required when applying. It is also common knowledge that the window for applying is quite tight. In short, one must be well prepared.

The amount of people who have asked me for advice over the years is high, I always advise them to get their C1 licence, the amount of people who fail to do this is also quite high. The majority of those who took advice on getting their licence are now working in the National Ambulance Service as Paramedics, some are now Advanced Paramedics.

The word has been on the street for months now regarding a 2016 recruitment.

OffalyMedic

I am gutted, have only recently finished up a healthcare degree program and plan for the last year was to do paramedics. Have arranged a ride along on a city ambulance and a few other things associated. I got my provisional C1 and D1 licence but have not had the oppertunity to get enough lessons before booking my test

Really though if the hse recruited i'd get in with my provisional C1 and Full B license no possible way i'd get the test by next week

Zane97

Would a fetac level 6 in trades be sufficient instead of leaving Cert maths and science ?

toadfly

Does anyone know if having penalty points on your licence is an issue?

madmaxvideo

Robbie G wrote: »

Would a fetac level 6 in trades be sufficient instead of leaving Cert maths and science ?

In short no, well for the last recruitment it didn't suffice! But maybe a quick call to manorhamilton would answer that for you! Is this the first time public jobs haven't been involved in the recruitment process?

honreal

shaunac93 wrote: »

I am gutted, have only recently finished up a healthcare degree program and plan for the last year was to do paramedics. Have arranged a ride along on a city ambulance and a few other things associated. I got my provisional C1 and D1 licence but have not had the oppertunity to get enough lessons before booking my test

Really though if the hse recruited i'd get in with my provisional C1 and Full B license no possible way i'd get the test by next week

You will be a Paramedic soon with DFB! wouldn't get too fussed about this to be honest.

honreal

Bang Bang wrote: »

People who are genuinely interested in a career as a Paramedic would have, or should have their research done and be prepared. It's common knowledge since the 2008 recruitment that a C1 Drivers Licence is required when applying. It is also common knowledge that the window for applying is quite tight. In short, one must be well prepared.

The amount of people who have asked me for advice over the years is high, I always advise them to get their C1 licence, the amount of people who fail to do this is also quite high. The majority of those who took advice on getting their licence are now working in the National Ambulance Service as Paramedics, some are now Advanced Paramedics.

The word has been on the street for months now regarding a 2016 recruitment.

True. No excuses really. If you really want the job you will do everything to get it.

Firerunner

Any ideas what pay is while training as a student paramedic?

toadfly

Firerunner wrote: »

Any ideas what pay is while training as a student paramedic?

The Salary for the post as at 01.01.2016 is:

€25,702, €27,530, €28,557, €29,770, €30,590, €31,096, €31,902, €32,719, €33,528, €35,147,

€36,640, LSI

Shift and weekend premia payments also apply.

OffalyMedic

honreal wrote:

You will be a Paramedic soon with DFB! wouldn't get too fussed about this to be honest.

I know but it would have been alot more effeciant to go direct hse route rather than through DFB

stevie06

shaunac93 wrote: »

I know but it would have been alot more effeciant to go direct hse route rather than through DFB

You are better off in DFB, straight into a roster after training with a fixed work location. HSE is far from efficient lol

honreal

shaunac93 wrote: »

I know but it would have been alot more effeciant to go direct hse route rather than through DFB

Are you only joining DFB for the paramedic side?

OffalyMedic

honreal wrote:

Are you only joining DFB for the paramedic side?

No not at all, initially I had thought about just joining for the paramedic but after the recruitment process and many station visits and research I realised FF really interests me, however I do still feel that down the line I will focus on paramedics alone, but who knows!

carav10

Am another one in the C license problem. Wasn't in a position to be able to get the lessons until recently and was hoping the rumour mill about recruitment opening in May/ June was true. Have been having the lessons and was applying for the test this week to hopefully have it by the time recruitment opened. In full-time employment already so not sure I could have taken the salary hit of going back to training but would like to have had the opportunity of the choice to do it as I'd love it. Not to be...

KwackerJack

carav10 wrote: »

Am another one in the C license problem. Wasn't in a position to be able to get the lessons until recently and was hoping the rumour mill about recruitment opening in May/ June was true. Have been having the lessons and was applying for the test this week to hopefully have it by the time recruitment opened. In full-time employment already so not sure I could have taken the salary hit of going back to training but would like to have had the opportunity of the choice to do it as I'd love it. Not to be...

I've only just got the C license, still have the pass paper at home. Haven't had the chance to apply for the actually plastic license!!

Will that be OK?

stringbox

KwackerJack wrote: »

I've only just got the C license, still have the pass paper at home. Haven't had the chance to apply for the actually plastic license!!

Will that be OK?

That's fine. Read the form.

stevie06

KwackerJack wrote: »

I've only just got the C license, still have the pass paper at home. Haven't had the chance to apply for the actually plastic license!!

Will that be OK?

You will need the actual license for your aptitude test so get it asap

sjb25

stevie06 wrote: »

You will need the actual license for your aptitude test so get it asap

Certificate of compancy is fine once it is dated BEFORE the closing date for applications

KwackerJack

Great thanks for the replys

Can someone explan the salary........goes from 25k to high 30s but not explanation!!

Currently in the 30s myself so it would be a good drop!

Osgood

KwackerJack wrote: »

Great thanks for the replys

Can someone explan the salary........goes from 25k to high 30s but not explanation!!

Currently in the 30s myself so it would be a good drop!

Starts at 25700, increases each year.

flix1

So during your training it'll be basic pay, but when you qualify and are out on the road you will get your shift allowances. These can vary depending on the shifts you get rostered. There is the opportunity for OT also and this can really depend on what base you are working out of.

KwackerJack

Is there any allowance's for training!

Id love to be a Paramedic but the 10k+ drop would be painful

flix1

Afraid none that I know of. It's tough no doubt but if you really do want it, you can make it work, but it takes serious committment & sacrifices both personally & financially.

Grahamfire

shaunac93 wrote: »

I am gutted, have only recently finished up a healthcare degree program and plan for the last year was to do paramedics. Have arranged a ride along on a city ambulance and a few other things associated. I got my provisional C1 and D1 licence but have not had the oppertunity to get enough lessons before booking my test

Really though if the hse recruited i'd get in with my provisional C1 and Full B license no possible way i'd get the test by next week

Did you not get DFB ?

OffalyMedic

Grahamfire wrote:

Did you not get DFB ?

I did, more than likely in second class and delighted to have got it! But pure paramedics would have been my first choice! All the same I'm delighted to have got DFB and will be as good a FF/paramedic I can be with them

stevie06

KwackerJack wrote: »

Is there any allowance's for training!

Id love to be a Paramedic but the 10k+ drop would be painful

There is a training allowance for placements, it's approx 200 a week if I remember correctly. You only get this on placements away from the training college. Shift allowance and premium pay will be paid from when you start your internship depending on the roster.... Be aware that as a relief you may not get regular premium pay. There is OT available, but as more staff (ie you) come into an area OT will be reduced. When you qualify you will earn anywhere from low 30s to low 40 depending on weekends, late runs, OT and subs.

gailgo

hi i would like to know can i apply, i dont have the maths requirement, but i have efr and emt and also c1 licence and a fetec level 5 in pre emergency care am i wasteing my time applying:eek:

flix1

gailgo wrote: »

hi i would like to know can i apply, i dont have the maths requirement, but i have efr and emt and also c1 licence and a fetec level 5 in pre emergency care am i wasteing my time applying:eek:

I don't believe it would be a waste. Why rule yourself out by not applying? If they rule you out, then it's out of your control but don't rule yourself out. You have a level 5 award which is a bonus.

SATSUMA

Hi guys

Does anyone know if there are any pay benefits or study exemptions for qualified nurses wanting to be paramedics?

Thanks

sjb25

SATSUMA wrote: »

Hi guys

Does anyone know if there are any pay benefits or study exemptions for qualified nurses wanting to be paramedics?

Thanks

None of either

stringbox

Why would a qualified nurse want to be a paramedic?

OffalyMedic

stringbox wrote:

Why would a qualified nurse want to be a paramedic?

For the same reason anyone wants to become a paramedic! The rush, the challange, the fact each day is different, being on the front line of emergency care, helping people at the worst time of their life and hopefully helping them through it!!

Hightower21

At the 2010/2011 recruitment anybody who didn't have their licence in their hand by the closing date was refused entry to the aptitude tests in Dublin.
They are very strict on this.
It was heart breaking to see people with their licence turned away from the door.

sjb25

Hightower21 wrote: »

At the 2010/2011 recruitment anybody who didn't have their licence in their hand by the closing date was refused entry to the aptitude tests in Dublin.
They are very strict on this.
It was heart breaking to see people with their licence turned away from the door.

Heard that alright as far as I remember they accepted the certificate in 2013 when I did the tests it was acceptable I had it the licence but almost sure it was acceptable then and it states in the job spec again this time it's definitely States its acceptable

lonfire1

Is this the first recruitment drive for paramedic that you had to have passed 6 subjects in your leaving cert?

sjb25

lonfire1 wrote: »

Is this the first recruitment drive for paramedic that you had to have passed 6 subjects in your leaving cert?

No last 2 at least 2010 &2013

icv1111

Anybody think the leaving cert requirement is unfair?

Handsome Brute

icv1111 wrote: »

Anybody think the leaving cert requirement is unfair?

Not at all! Paramedic Science is basically what you are doing so its reasonable to ask that you have a second level science subject as you are basically undertaking a level 7/8 course! Most health courses in a third level institution require 6 passes minimum and a science subject. What is unreasonable however is throwing away good candidates that do not hold a C class licence. As a previous poster mentioned she has a full third level degree in the same area of study but cant get in because she doesn't have a proper driving licence which is really a basic thing to get compared to a degree.

KwackerJack

ilikesubway wrote: »

Not at all! Paramedic Science is basically what you are doing so its reasonable to ask that you have a second level science subject as you are basically undertaking a level 7/8 course! Most health courses in a third level institution require 6 passes minimum and a science subject. What is unreasonable however is throwing away good candidates that do not hold a C class licence. As a previous poster mentioned she has a full third level degree in the same area of study but cant get in because she doesn't have a proper driving licence which is really a basic thing to get compared to a degree.

We'll true but considering she wouldn't be able to to drive the casualty to a hospital is a slight issue!!

It's like a person applying to be a pilot with an aviation degree but not actually having any flying hours or the required license!

sjb25

ilikesubway wrote: »

Not at all! Paramedic Science is basically what you are doing so its reasonable to ask that you have a second level science subject as you are basically undertaking a level 7/8 course! Most health courses in a third level institution require 6 passes minimum and a science subject. What is unreasonable however is throwing away good candidates that do not hold a C class licence. As a previous poster mentioned she has a full third level degree in the same area of study but cant get in because she doesn't have a proper driving licence which is really a basic thing to get compared to a degree.

It's not unreasonable in fairness part of the job is driving the vehicles this requires you to have a C1 licence which is the legal requirement to drive them it has Notting to do with knowledge you have or have not you cannot do the job without it unfortunately
I agree with you on the leaving by the way

It may sound harsh but the criteria is the same as 3 years ago it wasn't a secret you would need a C1
I missed out in 2010 I didn't have a C1 also I didn't have a science subject in my leaving so what did I do I printed of the criteria at the time I went of did my EMT did my C1 and I did D1 incase it came back as a requirement then in 2013 I was lucky enough to get it you have to be prepared for these recruitment drives as the don't come up to often and you have very little time to get stuff sorted

Handsome Brute

sjb25 wrote: »

It's not unreasonable in fairness part of the job is driving the vehicles this requires you to have a C1 licence which is the legal requirement to drive them it has Notting to do with knowledge you have or have not you cannot do the job without it unfortunately
I agree with you on the leaving by the way

But how come the NHS can bring trainees on with a D class? And how come the DFB can do it also? All it would take is good management of resources and allowing/sponsoring you to get a C1 during your initial training in conjunction with your blue light course.

sjb25

ilikesubway wrote: »

But how come the NHS can bring trainees on with a D class? And how come the DFB can do it also? All it would take is good management of resources and allowing/sponsoring you to get a C1 during your initial training in conjunction with your blue light course.

They obviously get the funding for it The NAS do not also a lot of them NHS trusts you still have to pay for it yourself they just give you time
And like I said in my other post I edited in a bit it was no secret about C1

Handsome Brute

sjb25 wrote: »

They obviously get the funding for it The NAS do not

Well that's just a shame!

I'm not going for it myself but I just found it interesting! A lad I went to school with is an advanced paramedic with the London Ambulance Service. One day he was on the way home on the tube when he looked up and seen the advertisement! Applied just out of interest and got it! He never wanted to do it but he just taught why not! He went on to be one of the youngest paramedics to be offered and promoted through the advanced paramedic course!

I love the attitude here that you have to be interested for years to get the job and do all things such as EMT and C class to try and get it! Look fair play to you and you deserve the position for what you have done.

May the best Men and Women win!

Paulzx

ilikesubway wrote: »

But how come the NHS can bring trainees on with a D class? And how come the DFB can do it also? All it would take is good management of resources and allowing/sponsoring you to get a C1 during your initial training in conjunction with your blue light course.

Because the NAS want you to bear the cost of getting a C1 licence rather than having to train you or risk not passing it.

To be honest it's a pretty obvious cost saving measure that is based on common sense and it's hard to pick holes in the logic

icv1111

ilikesubway wrote: »

Not at all! Paramedic Science is basically what you are doing so its reasonable to ask that you have a second level science subject as you are basically undertaking a level 7/8 course! Most health courses in a third level institution require 6 passes minimum and a science subject. What is unreasonable however is throwing away good candidates that do not hold a C class licence. As a previous poster mentioned she has a full third level degree in the same area of study but cant get in because she doesn't have a proper driving licence which is really a basic thing to get compared to a degree.

I just think it's unfair to older candidates who may not have had everything up to scratch compared to a modern leaving cert and how not having a subject in the LC can override having every other requirement plus experience. But I suppose you are right as it is a degree course.

GoProGaming

ilikesubway wrote: »

Not at all! Paramedic Science is basically what you are doing so its reasonable to ask that you have a second level science subject as you are basically undertaking a level 7/8 course! Most health courses in a third level institution require 6 passes minimum and a science subject. What is unreasonable however is throwing away good candidates that do not hold a C class licence. As a previous poster mentioned she has a full third level degree in the same area of study but cant get in because she doesn't have a proper driving licence which is really a basic thing to get compared to a degree.

It is in no way like paramedic science or a level 8 degree. You spend 3 months in a class room including practical and theory, then you go on placements in various areas. How does that compare to a 4 year degree?

Handsome Brute

GoProGaming wrote: »

It is in no way like paramedic science or a level 8 degree. You spend 3 months in a class room including practical and theory, then you go on placements in various areas. How does that compare to a 4 year degree?

Again since I have lived and worked mosly in the UK I would have thought that their would be a lot more to it than that as all paramedics now do a third level university degree in the UK! I'm surprised that's all their is here to it in the classroom. But I stand by my point that if your coming just with a LC that it should reflect your ability to study in the area of science and study well.

TJHooker2016

Just read through the criteria, isint it strange that the criteria is lower for DFB (pass level in junior cert is acceptable) and minimum leaving cert in this. Yet more training and diversity in more areas in DFB. Strange that there is no minimum standard across the board

buffmeister

Hey, I haven't been able to download the job specification and additional information. Thought I'd saved it on my phone but they must have taken it down when applications closed.

Would anyone have a copy they wouldn't mind sending me please?

Thanks