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Donald Trump (I'm Worried)

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    #272
    TeaBagMania
    Registered Users Posts: 1,192 ✭✭✭TeaBagMania


    Ok guys its been real, gotta run some errands and get in line for some gubment cheese, late.


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    #273
    RobertKK
    Registered Users Posts: 33,746 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Well for one a sizeable portion of the Republican base don't want universal health care. For another Arizona already has draconian laws for Mexicans so everything he says you can see examples in everyday life. He does not have a nice way of saying the facts as not reported by the media. Shall I go on. Before Trump joined the Republican party their leaders had increased the Federal Debt to the highest level since Hoover. So he secures a number of high points. The voters like him and Americans who don't feel voting is worth anything well they will have to be happy having a super rich loud arrogant New Yorker in the White House.

    Under Bush the US national dent went from $4.5 trillion to $9 trillion.
    Under Obama the US national debt has gone from $9 trillion to $19 trillion, and likely around $20 trillion by the time he leaves office.

    The US economy is still fragile. Talk that more quantitative easing coming from the US Fed.

    I would not be praising Obama.


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    #274
    KingBrian2
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    RobertKK wrote: »
    Under Bush the US national dent went from $4.5 trillion to $9 trillion.
    Under Obama the US national debt has gone from $9 trillion to $19 trillion, and likely around $20 trillion by the time he leaves office.

    The US economy is still fragile. Talk that more quantitative easing coming from the US Fed.

    I would not be praising Obama.


    The Federal Debt could have been considerable higher. In terms of unemployment and inflation America is growing again capable of repaying the debt, also he withdrew US involvement in foreign invasions.


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    #275
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    chillin117 wrote: »
    Could this Gob****e get elected ? He could push the button on a whim. He is an idiot but keeps winning states. Joking aside I would be worried if he won and was elected President of USA.

    He'll have access to nuclear launch codes, but he still will need a good reason to launch i would think?

    Donald is a a control freak, a liar, a fascist and racist hes the worlds worst nightmare come true.

    The problem for Donald its very unlikely huge numbers of black and latinos voters will pick him for President. Donald needs a crossover of white voters to win it. Hilary is not overly popular with white voters so who knows?


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    #276
    Cheerful Spring
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,893 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring


    The Moldy Gowl wrote: »
    It's the him being a nazi comparisons that's more embarrassing.

    Trump wants to ban all Muslims from the united states for a year and wants to build a wall around Texas to keep Mexicans out.

    Why would you remove all Muslims from America? Thats fascism Trump is blaming minority groups for terrorism. Hitler did exact same thing with the Jews he blamed them all for losing World War 1


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    #277
    Billy86
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Trump wants to ban all Muslims from the united states for a year and wants to build a wall around Texas to keep Mexicans out.

    Why would you remove all Muslims from America? Thats fascism Trump is blaming minority groups for terrorism. Hitler did exact same thing with the Jews he blamed them all for losing World War 1
    Yeah but with Hitler it's different, Germany was in a rut and he was trying to make the it great again by blaming it on certain minorities. Very, very different to Trump you see.


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    #278
    TheHillOfDoom
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Yeah but with Hitler it's different, Germany was in a rut and he was trying to make the it great again by blaming it on certain minorities. Very, very different to Trump you see.

    Indeed, get rid of the muslims and mexicans and Irish and America will be great again!


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    #279
    KingBrian2
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    At least Donald Trump did not make his money out of selling weapons.


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    #280
    Cheerful Spring
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    Yeah but with Hitler it's different, Germany was in a rut and he was trying to make the it great again by blaming it on certain minorities. Very, very different to Trump you see.

    lol Thats Trump campaign slogan lets make America great again. What does that even mean?

    Trump called Mexicans killers and rapists, all Muslims should leave for a year come on there is nothing different, both men different times, blamed minorities for their problems . Hitler eventually just decided to wipe them out, who knows what will happen with Trump in charge?


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    #281
    20Cent
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    lol Thats Trump campaign slogan lets make America great again. What does that even mean?

    Trump called Mexicans killers and rapists, all Muslims should leave for a year come on there is nothing different they both men different times blamed minorities . Hitler eventually just decided to wipe them out, who knows what will happen with Trump in charge?

    He's blaming the violence at his rallies on a Jew as well.


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    #282
    Ronald Wilson Reagan
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    It not the first time a deluded old fart got the job, I should know.


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    #283
    Cheerful Spring
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    TheHillOfDoom wrote: »
    Indeed, get rid of the muslims and mexicans and Irish and America will be great again!

    Irish have to leave too those who are there illegally.


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    #284
    Cheerful Spring
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    20Cent wrote: »
    He's blaming the violence at his rallies on a Jew as well.

    Did he have you source for that? He claims hes a friend of Israel?


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    #285
    Billy86
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    lol Thats Trump campaign slogan lets make America great again. What does that even mean?

    Trump called Mexicans killers and rapists, all Muslims should leave for a year come on there is nothing different, both men different times, blamed minorities for their problems . Hitler eventually just decided to wipe them out, who knows what will happen with Trump in charge?
    It seems to evoke back to the 'golden age' of the US for, especially when combined with talk of manufacturing and whatnot. You know, back in the 50s and 60s where Muslims and people of colour knew to shut up and accept being second class citizens at best.


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    #286
    Cheerful Spring
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    It seems to evoke back to the 'golden age' of the US for, especially when combined with talk of manufacturing and whatnot. You know, back in the 50s and 60s where Muslims and people of colour knew to shut up and accept being second class citizens at best.

    Trump is trying for that he looking to bring on a civil war. Its 2016 latinos and blacks are not going to accept second class citizenship anymore.


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    #287
    20Cent
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Did he have you source for that? He claims hes a friend of Israel?

    He said Betnie Sanders sent the protesters.


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    #288
    Eugene Norman
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    lol Thats Trump campaign slogan lets make America great again. What does that even mean?

    Trump called Mexicans killers and rapists, all Muslims should leave for a year come on there is nothing different, both men different times, blamed minorities for their problems . Hitler eventually just decided to wipe them out, who knows what will happen with Trump in charge?

    There's far more likely to be mass killings and invasions if anybody else is elected, in particular Clinton. The other republican candidates will invade Iran within a week.

    Only Sanders is a better option or the world.


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    #289
    Billy86
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Trump is trying for that he looking to bring on a civil war. Its 2016 latinos and blacks are not going to accept second class citizenship anymore.
    And that's a big reason why so many of his fans get behind him - they are extremely frustrated that darkie won't just get back in his f***ing box. Donald is promising to put them in their boxes and seal them shut.

    Race baiting, basically.


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    #290
    KingBrian2
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    Previous American Presidents have invaded Muslim countries and supported rendition does anyone not see the contradictions in what they say about Trump. Trump will be tougher a lot tougher on terrorism which is what the home crowd want to here. What we are seeing is a spirited and energised exercise in democracy. The other candidates are all uniting to take on Trump, they don't want him to succeed because they know he will support those in America Hispanic, Black, White, Indian, Arab, Jew, Asian or whatever provided they did not enter America illegally. America is pretty diverse and to say that only Whites or some Jews support him is not the full picture. Legal Americans don't want their jobs replaced by illegals.


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    #291
    Eugene Norman
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    It seems to evoke back to the 'golden age' of the US for, especially when combined with talk of manufacturing and whatnot. You know, back in the 50s and 60s where Muslims and people of colour knew to shut up and accept being second class citizens at best.

    There weren't any Muslims in the US in the 50s. However taking back jobs ( or not letting them leave in the first place) would have benefitted blacks, and whites in the US recently. See Detroit.


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    #292
    Eugene Norman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,191 ✭✭✭Eugene Norman


    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    Previous American Presidents have invaded Muslim countries and supported rendition does anyone not see the contradictions in what they say about Trump. Trump will be tougher a lot tougher on terrorism which is what the home crowd want to here. What we are seeing is a spirited and energised exercise in democracy. The other candidates are all uniting to take on Trump, they don't want him to succeed because they know he will support those in America Hispanic, Black, White, Indian Arab, Jew, Asian or whatever provided they did not enter America illegally. America is pretty diverse and to say that only Whites or some Jews support him in not the full picture. Legal Americans don't want their jobs replaced by illegals.

    It's utter bollocks. He is the only electable candidate not likely to invade Iran.

    The problem with trump is he opposes globalisation. That's why he is vilified.

    In fact the pro imperialist parts of the Republican Party (in particular magazines like the Weekly Standard or the national review -- both neo-conservative -- hate his guts).

    Trump isn't going to deport anybody and probably won't build a wall. He says he isn't going to tear up the recent agreement with Iran, and that's why the established neo conservative elites hate him.


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    #293
    Cheerful Spring
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    20Cent wrote: »
    He said Betnie Sanders sent the protesters.

    Bernie is a Jew and a socialist. Trump is a weird cat i not sure if he believes half the stuff he says, i often wonder is he just playing a game? Is he saying all this stuff because he knows a large portion of white America truly believes Obama is the devil?


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    #294
    Billy86
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    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    There weren't any Muslims in the US in the 50s.
    There were actually.
    However taking back jobs ( or not letting them leave in the first place) would have benefitted blacks, and whites in the US recently. See Detroit.
    It's not as straight forward as that, but if we want to boil it down to such simplistic terms, then Trump has moved more jobs abroad than most.


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    #295
    Eugene Norman
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Bernie is a Jew and a socialist. Trump is a weird cat i not sure if he believes half the stuff he says, i often wonder is he just playing a game? Is he saying all this stuff because he knows a large portion of white America truly believes Obama is the devil?

    He doesn't. He was a liberal in New York. I think he's a centrist who is going to control immigration, talk tough with nafta and China and leave the Middle East alone. The second best candidate compared to Sanders. Clinton is beholden to war mongers. She's responsible for Libya. Sickening imperialist.


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    #296
    KingBrian2
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Bernie is a Jew and a socialist. Trump is a weird cat i not sure if he believes half the stuff he says, i often wonder is he just playing a game? Is he saying all this stuff because he knows a large portion of white America truly believes Obama is the devil?

    A lot of them already have preconceived notions about him. Trump was one of the first to reach out and embrace those Republicans that had no taste for President Obama. Right now what's it 60% popularity in some polls. This is not down to Trump himself other more extreme groups are clambering towards his campaign. The anti establishment protest camp is filling up.


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    #297
    Nodin
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    Yamanoto wrote: »
    Wayne Rooney is living proof that throwing money at the problem doesn't quite guarantee a brilliant outcome.
    ..............

    ...and that stitching together a new person out of the parts of dead ones will never end well.


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    #298
    Cheerful Spring
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    Eugene Norman wrote: »
    There's far more likely to be mass killings and invasions if anybody else is elected, in particular Clinton. The other republican candidates will invade Iran within a week.

    Only Sanders is a better option or the world.

    Fairer world yes, better world not sure yet. Sometimes you have be somewhere in the middle not too greedy and not too poor. Sander can't screw over rich people too much or they'll just go elsewhere.

    Clinton is a liar i don't believe shes a lefty at all. She is a rich lady who believes in the extreme capitalist way of life.


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    #299
    Nodin
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    Cheerful Spring wrote: »
    Bernie is a Jew ................

    Are we sure?


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    #300
    Eugene Norman
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    Billy86 wrote: »
    There were actually.

    Obviously statistically insignificant.
    It's not as straight forward as that, but if we want to boil it down to such simplistic terms, then Trump has moved more jobs abroad than most.

    That's mere anecdote. The support for trump comes from the disaffected working classes. Mostly white for now but in a general election he could point out the cost of globalisation on all of the us.

    But I'm not a us citizen. Trump is less imperialistic than the rest (sanders excepted).


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    #301
    Cheerful Spring
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    KingBrian2 wrote: »
    A lot of them already have preconceived notions about him. Trump was one of the first to reach out and embrace those Republicans that had no taste for President Obama. Right now what's it 60% popularity in some polls. This is not down to Trump himself other more extreme groups are clambering towards his campaign. The anti establishment protest camp is filling up.

    Yes you're right. Trump said he was a Muslim, and he was not born in America. He supported the birther movement. He said the same for Cruz and Rubio. Hes racist views are there for all to see.


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