Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

Muahahaha

J Mysterio wrote: »

Greg for a boy anyway.

Gregor McGregor? Nah, that wont be happening

nomadchocolate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLw6AwK0MA

Mousasi makes a great point about McGregor

Dave0301

nomadchocolate wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLw6AwK0MA

Mousasi makes a great point about McGregor

He didn't really though, did he?

JJayoo

nomadchocolate wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLw6AwK0MA

Mousasi makes a great point about McGregor

Someone said something slightly negative towards McG........Defenders assemble

JJayoo

nomadchocolate wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLw6AwK0MA

Mousasi makes a great point about McGregor

Someone said something slightly negative towards McG........Defenders assemble

.ak

nomadchocolate wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCLw6AwK0MA

Mousasi makes a great point about McGregor

What did he say, paraphrasing?

0byme75341jo28

.ak wrote: »

What did he say, paraphrasing?

Complained about the fact he's only ranked no. 9 because he feels he's top 5, complained about not getting a title shot, said that he should try throwing some bottles to get big fights, and that McGregor's fans are stupid and only care about his wealth and what he puts on Instagram.. Really don't get how it's a great point?

And now he's angling for a Silva fight apparently.. Maybe, just maybe, his yearning to fight over the hill "legends of the sport" is the reason he won't get a title shot, and not McGregor (why was he even brought up )

wonderfullife

Fighters speaking up against Conor is only coming from a position of jealousy.

In some ways, it's very understandable. The difference in skill level between, for example, Mirsad Bektic and Conor McGregor is very small. In fact, the difference in skill level between UFC fighters, in general, is very small.

So you've got a lot of guys who feel they are as good, if not better, than Conor.

Yet they are getting paid $16,000 and Conor is getting paid $3 million to show.

So what these guys do is focus on things like his Irish accent and the UFC "gifting" him easy match ups.

What they fail to realise, or appreciate, is that Conor is a tide that rises all boats. All the champions on UFC 205 on a PPV contract (which is Conor, Eddie, Woodley, Karolina) will all be making 7 figures including PPV.

The fighters lower down on the card are making $24,000 when on another card they'd be getting $12,000 to show.

He's raised fighter pay awareness to new levels. It was rarely spoken about before Conor and now people are actively running down their contracts to explore free agency.

This, in itself, will drive up the rate of pay in the entire UFC because they will be forced to up their pay or risk continually losing the likes of Rory to Bellator.

So, whilst the jealousy is understandable, they really have things backwards and twisted when it comes to Conor. He's literally helping every fighter across the board whether they realise it or not.

Lukker-

Mousasi was more having a go at Conors fans. He's not wrong either, but it's also dismissive. Not every Conor fan is a filthy casual. He's brought plenty of new fans to the sport who are totally immersed in it now and not just McGregor related.

weldoninhio

Tigger wrote: »

Won cw fw. Won cw lw straigh away so no chance to defend fw
Got Utc off cw so no chance to defend either title
He was messing n the lw fight as well and he won the fw belt by sub to prove a point iirc
Won fw and wanted to replicate his cw success
I think if the original dos anjos fight had happened then he'd be defending a belt by now but I'd Ask which belt should he have defended and when

I'll answer that one. The belt he has had for a year now, and as for when, when he was having his vanity fights against Diaz.

Swashbuckler

weldoninhio wrote:

I'll answer that one. The belt he has had for a year now, and as for when, when he was having his vanity fights against Diaz.

The second fight was a vanity fight. The first was a late replacement for RDA.

John_D80

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'll answer that one. The belt he has had for a year now, and as for when, when he was having his vanity fights against Diaz.

Posts like this are really quite upsetting for people like me who think the sun, moon and stars shine out of his ar5e, and he should be allowed to do anything he wants.

Leave Conor alone.

ccarr

Just after watching 204 from Manchester. Do you ever see McGregor fighting in UK. I dont think there any venue in Ireland capale of hosting one his fights. We saw in Manchester they where able to have fight night which allows for PPV in America. So think that could be option. Think would be great if he fought in UK as would be lot easier for Irish people to travel.
Other option for fight in UK would be Cardiff. Dont think croke park would work for fight. But millennium stadium. Could you image the atmosphere of fight in Cardiff with the roof closed. This is just me thinking out loud

irishguy1983

ccarr wrote: »

Just after watching 204 from Manchester. Do you ever see McGregor fighting in UK. I dont think there any venue in Ireland capale of hosting one his fights. We saw in Manchester they where able to have fight night which allows for PPV in America. So think that could be option. Think would be great if he fought in UK as would be lot easier for Irish people to travel.
Other option for fight in UK would be Cardiff. Dont think croke park would work for fight. But millennium stadium. Could you image the atmosphere of fight in Cardiff with the roof closed. This is just me thinking out loud

Why can't he do same in Ireland??? Do we not have plenty of venues or is this about something else I'm missing?

rob316

ccarr wrote: »

Just after watching 204 from Manchester. Do you ever see McGregor fighting in UK. I dont think there any venue in Ireland capale of hosting one his fights. We saw in Manchester they where able to have fight night which allows for PPV in America. So think that could be option. Think would be great if he fought in UK as would be lot easier for Irish people to travel.
Other option for fight in UK would be Cardiff. Dont think croke park would work for fight. But millennium stadium. Could you image the atmosphere of fight in Cardiff with the roof closed. This is just me thinking out loud

There is a lot of issues with having a European stadium PPV. UFC like to have their PPV times consistent so it will have to coincide with Vegas time. I have no doubt he could fill the Aviva or Croke Park, but could you imagine 60k to 80k on the streets of Dublin at 6 in the morning after the fight, it would pandemonium.

Liquor licensing laws here means they wouldn't be able to serve alcohol at the event too although that might be a good thing.

Subcomandante Marcos

Wilson Faint Greenback wrote: »

Complained about the fact he's only ranked no. 9 because he feels he's top 5, complained about not getting a title shot, said that he should try throwing some bottles to get big fights, and that McGregor's fans are stupid and only care about his wealth and what he puts on Instagram.. Really don't get how it's a great point?

And now he's angling for a Silva fight apparently.. Maybe, just maybe, his yearning to fight over the hill "legends of the sport" is the reason he won't get a title shot, and not McGregor (why was he even brought up )

He didn't angle for a fight with Silva, he said he want's a top 5 guy but the champion and 1-4 are all booked so if Silva was looking for a fight he'd take it or a rematch with Hall. He's right though, the rankings are a joke, Sherdog and the UFC official rankings make no sense.

ccarr

irishguy1983 wrote: »

Why can't he do same in Ireland??? Do we not have plenty of venues or is this about something else I'm missing?

We dont have the venues. Compare the point (3 arena) you are losing out about 5000/6000. Also I cant see the point be allowed same open till 6 in the morning the way the Manchester arena was allowed to last night. It needs to be open that late to suit American ppv times.

If we go down the stadium route then its croke park are the avia. The millennium stadium works better as it has a roof. Which suit ufc event alot better. Granted i dont think the police would allow event go on in cardiff tell 6 morning as capactiy would be so much more than manchester was. Maybe ufc might be more flexible with PPV time if they where going sell 70,000 tickets to the event. Also by having in UK surely it would grow UFC brand even more in the UK. Lets be honest growing UFC brand in Irelnad is pocket money but could be worth there while hosting massive 70,000 fight in the UK. They might be able to justify the hit on PPV for one fight for long term gains

TimRiggins

What ever chance there was of it before its gone now. Cost ALOT of UFC to put on a stadium show, add that to the hit in PPVs. The new owners are not looking to pump another 4bn in, they want a return and it just doesn't make sense economically.

For example, UFC 202 did 1.6m apparently. Thats 120m, and that gets divided amongst the broadcasters, fighters etc, but they're not going to have their biggest draw fight at off peak times in the US market.

And this is before you even talk about the laws of hosting an event at 3 in the morning and the 3 hour edition of Joe Duffy trying to get it outlawed.

The people move on from this Croke Park pipe dream the better. Its not going to happen.

EagererBeaver

Croke was never discussed as a nighttime option. 80,000 pissed up fans matching out into the middle of residential Drumcondra at 5-6 in the morning? Never happen and rightly so.

For a Croke fight to happen it would have to be at regular hours and produce a large enough gate to offset the reduction in pay per view sales in the states.

wonderfullife

How much do ya reckon Nevada State Atheltic Commission going to fine Conor tomorrow at his hearing?

I really don't think it's on the same scale as UFC 178 with Cormier/Jones scrapping before the fight but they'll have to fine him something.

5% seems about right. Half of what they fined Jones/DC.

The interesting part is will they give him community service like Jones/DC were given?

My overall guess is they'll fine him $150,000 (5% of his Show money) and give him 20 hours of Community Service.

The current story doing the rounds is that McGregor has a whole team of lawyers showing up on his behalf tomorrow, so i'm guessing they are going to argue it was self-defence. Obviously the NSAC isn't a court of law but they do have power.

Depp

wonderfullife wrote: »

How much do ya reckon Nevada State Atheltic Commission going to fine Conor tomorrow at his hearing?

I really don't think it's on the same scale as UFC 178 with Cormier/Jones scrapping before the fight but they'll have to fine him something.

5% seems about right. Half of what they fined Jones/DC.

The interesting part is will they give him community service like Jones/DC were given?

My overall guess is they'll fine him $150,000 (5% of his Show money) and give him 20 hours of Community Service.

The current story doing the rounds is that McGregor has a whole team of lawyers showing up on his behalf tomorrow, so i'm guessing they are going to argue it was self-defence. Obviously the NSAC isn't a court of law but they do have power.

I doubt conor will get more than a slap on the wrist, which i suppose a 5% fine is to him at this stage, I'd worry for diaz though, both as an instigator and the nac's history with nick. I wouldn't put it past pat to throw the book at nate to get back at nick

wonderfullife

Depp wrote: »

I doubt conor will get more than a slap on the wrist, which i suppose a 5% fine is to him at this stage, I'd worry for diaz though, both as an instigator and the nac's history with nick. I wouldn't put it past pat to throw the book at nate to get back at nick

yeah, especially as Nick still hasn't paid the $75,000 on his fine!

We won't find out tomorrow though, Nate and Jon Jones lawyers both asked for a continuation for their hearings. So it's just Conor tomorrow.

Nevada aren't idiots. A McGregor show brings in $150-$200 million revenue for the city. They won't cut their nose off to spite their face by coming down too heavy on him.

5% fine, a few hours community service and a warning on future conduct. That sounds about right. If he's very lucky he might get away with just a fine.

martyos121

wonderfullife wrote: »

yeah, especially as Nick still hasn't paid the $75,000 on his fine!

We won't find out tomorrow though, Nate and Jon Jones lawyers both asked for a continuation for their hearings. So it's just Conor tomorrow.

Nevada aren't idiots. A McGregor show brings in $150-$200 million revenue for the city. They won't cut their nose off to spite their face by coming down too heavy on him.

5% fine, a few hours community service and a warning on future conduct. That sounds about right. If he's very lucky he might get away with just a fine.

Hope he gets the community service. McGregor picking up rubbish on Nevada streets in a custom made Louis Copeland suit trying not to get any stains on it is undoubtedly PPV quality stuff. Will do bigger numbers than a Mighty Mouse card.

Muahahaha

rob316 wrote: »

There is a lot of issues with having a European stadium PPV. UFC like to have their PPV times consistent so it will have to coincide with Vegas time. I have no doubt he could fill the Aviva or Croke Park, but could you imagine 60k to 80k on the streets of Dublin at 6 in the morning after the fight, it would pandemonium.

Liquor licensing laws here means they wouldn't be able to serve alcohol at the event too although that might be a good thing.

Only way I could see a UFC stadium show in Ireland is if 1) All ticketholders have to be inside the venue by 12, 2) No alcohol served or allowed to be brought in. Technically if Croke Park got a theater license they could serve alcohol until 4am but there is no way the Gardai would agree with that in the District Court event application hearing. I could only see it getting planning permission if it was an alcohol free event, given the time of night the Gardai would object to drink being served.

Even then though there are too many other hurdles. Even if the UFC applied planning from Dublin City Council you would expect resistance from residents, especially residents around Lansdowne Road. Around Croker it could be possible, residents would demand 2 tickets per household but IMO they would go with it. Lansdowne Road residents are mainly well heeled lawyers who would be aghast at the thought of two athletes fighting in their locality.

Another option could be the soon renovated Pairc Ui Caoimh in Cork which is due to be finished in time for May. It is only 45,000 but has the advantage over Croker and Lansdowne that there is access without going through residential areas. The GAA have also said theyre looking for concerts and shows to help pay off the €78m price tag. Cork may not be ideal for everyone but it could allow the PPV time to remain while not having the same problems as the two Dublin stadiums.

JustTheOne

They could do a stadium show like they done the last 2 times the ufc was here.

Both at normal times.

Tigger

weldoninhio wrote: »

I'll answer that one. The belt he has had for a year now, and as for when, when he was having his vanity fights against Diaz.

It was 14 months between Aldo- Mendez and Aldo mcgreggor
It's been 10 months since also mcgreggor -also
When and who would you have had him fight?

scudzilla

JustTheOne wrote: »

They could do a stadium show like they done the last 2 times the ufc was here.

Both at normal times.

don't you mean Arena??

Mellor

scudzilla wrote: »

don't you mean Arena??

I had to read it a few times. But I think he means "they could do a stadium show at the same time as the last two events here".


But the last two events here weren't PPVs. Which is the issue

AlmightyCushion

JustTheOne wrote: »

They could do a stadium show like they done the last 2 times the ufc was here.

Both at normal times.

Putting a McGregor card on at regular Irish times would probably cause a huge drop in PPVs so they won't do it.

CatFromHue

wonderfullife wrote: »

I really don't think it's on the same scale as UFC 178 with Cormier/Jones scrapping before the fight but they'll have to fine him something.

I'd view what happened as much worse than Cormier and Jones having a fight.

I'm gonna sound like a "wont someone think of the children type" but McGregor
was throwing stuff into a crowd which could have done some serious damage. Then you have his gang and Nate's gang having a bit of a square off too so I would be expecting something bigger than what DC and Jones got.