Official Conor McGregor thread (part 2). **Read warning in 1st post**

JustTheOne

lougal88 wrote: »

Pure ego obviously.

I just think it's very easy to judge when it's not us in the limelight, media, etc.

The pressure can get to anyone. Let's not push someone over the edge.

eddie73

JustTheOne wrote: »

So what if he is ducking away?

If he feels his head isn't the right place for it then why shouldn't he?

Nothing is more important than your mental wellbeing. The UFC clearly don't care.

?? Suddenly Conor McGregor cares about mental well being? He is the greatest trash talker I have ever heard. He doesnt care about mental well being. Not of others anyway. I still think that it would be no trouble to him to turn up and do press conferences. There is a load of time between now and the event. All the others are doing it.

lougal88

JustTheOne wrote: »

I just think it's very easy to judge when it's not us in the limelight, media, etc.

The pressure can get to anyone. Let's not push someone over the edge.

He made his bed. It's part of the job.

I'm not pushing anybody, very much doubt Conor is on boards :P

JustTheOne

eddie73 wrote: »

?? Suddenly Conor McGregor cares about mental well being? He is the greatest trash talker I have ever heard. He doesnt care about mental well being. Not of others anyway. I still think that it would be no trouble to him to turn up and do press conferences. There is a load of time between now and the event. All the others are doing it.

Yes of course he cares about his mental well being.

Stupid question.

froog

I think that car crash presser was the turning point. I don't think they were expecting such a backlash. I reckon the fertittas will pull rank now and get conor back on the card at whatever cost.

JustTheOne

lougal88 wrote: »

He made his bed. It's part of the job.

I'm not pushing anybody, very much doubt Conor is on boards :P

He was!

CSF

lougal88 wrote: »

No, but the press conferences and trash talking certainly helped.

IMO Aldo was beaten before they stepped into the octagon. He fought with emotion, wanted to tear into Conor and unfortunately got caught.

I do hope this is resolved and somehow Conor is back on the card. But the first fight was 6 weeks ago and ufc 200 is 10 weeks away. That's 16 weeks. Surely more than enough time to get a good training camp in.

IMO he's making excuses. It's easier to sit at his computer and tweet witty responses rather than sit there opposite Nate and answer to his "I made you tap Mother F**ker" comments.

There might be something to this, there might not. In the end Aldo is a seasoned elite fighter who has been there and done that. I reckon he went in there with some sort of strategy rather than just a fit of rage. Blatantly it did not pay off or even close to it.

eddie73

JustTheOne wrote: »

Yes of course he cares about his mental well being.

Stupid question.

Not a question, a statement. There is a total contradiction in terms when it comes to trash talking to others, and then suddenly withdrawing.

Paully D

Press conference for the UFC's biggest event in 7 years and the place is more than half empty and dead.

I see both sides of the argument on this stand off, but that says more than either party can.

Swashbuckler

Paully D wrote: »

Press conference for the UFC's biggest event in 7 years and the place is more than half empty and dead.

I see both sides of the argument on this stand off, but that says more than either party can.

I thought the same when I was watching but then wondered are those type of press conferences not normally like that? Would more people have showed up if McG was there?

lougal88

CSF wrote: »

There might be something to this, there might not. In the end Aldo is a seasoned elite fighter who has been there and done that. I reckon he went in there with some sort of strategy rather than just a fit of rage. Blatantly it did not pay off or even close to it.

Of course he went in with a game plan. But it went completely out the window once he stood across from McGregor in the cage and all the disgusting things Conor had said to him to came flooding back.

Unless his game plan was to run straight into Conor's left hand. :P

Augme

froog wrote: »

I think that car crash presser was the turning point. I don't think they were expecting such a backlash. I reckon the fertittas will pull rank now and get conor back on the card at whatever cost.

I'll be amazed if they get Conor back on the card. They'll look far too weak if they back down now.

J Mysterio

Augme wrote: »

I'll be amazed if they get Conor back on the card. They'll look far too weak if they back down now.

But they also look stupid for hosting a weak ass PR gig for ***UFC 200*** where the only topic is 'why is McGregor not going to be there?'

Dana just squirming. 'I wanted it' he says.

Whatever about Connor being selfish or egotistical, the UFC shot themselves in the foot and have managed to ban their biggest star from their flagship event.
'they want fight, the fans want them to fight, why not let them just fight?'

What a cluster****.

XsApollo

Whatever happens now happens,
If he doesn't fight at 200 then it's a mandatory title defence or strip him.

He had a lot of leeway with the belt IMO.
They gave him everything he wanted to try and become 2 weight champion.

The title shot against RDA was fair enough, 2 champions fighting.
To have his wish of a rematch against Diaz granted and headlining 200 was bollox, he should be defending his belt if he is fit to fight and then he doesn't bother to show up.

Whatever the reason is ,he surely knew that these pressers and commercial were on the card and must of agreed to them?
UfC200 is 3months out so plenty of time for a camp, so that reason is bull,
Maybe he thought he could get away with it because they wouldn't have the balls to pull him from the card and now they have.

So back to 145 where he never had any intention of returning to IMO.
If he beat RDA he was vacating the 145 belt which would of been a pussy move itself.
I think Dana knew that and was accommodating him get the 155 belt to keep the train chugging along.
Now he shot himself in the foot and back to 145 where we see what kind of a champion he is ,Winning the belt and running off never really proves anything lol.
Anybody can get knocked out or get lucky ( I'm not saying he has , I like Mcregor)
But there are a lot question marks in his run to the title.
Great champions defend their titles which he hasn't done yet and should of been made to.

CSF

lougal88 wrote: »

Of course he went in with a game plan. But it went completely out the window once he stood across from McGregor in the cage and all the disgusting things Conor had said to him to came flooding back.

Unless his game plan was to run straight into Conor's left hand. :P

I'd imagine charging in early and taking the initiative was part of his game plan. Being on his back and out after 13 seconds certainly wasn't

JustTheOne

XsApollo wrote: »

Whatever happens now happens,
If he doesn't fight at 200 then it's a mandatory title defence or strip him.

He had a lot of leeway with the belt IMO.
They gave him everything he wanted to try and become 2 weight champion.

The title shot against RDA was fair enough, 2 champions fighting.
To have his wish of a rematch against Diaz granted and headlining 200 was bollox, he should be defending his belt if he is fit to fight and then he doesn't bother to show up.

Whatever the reason is ,he surely knew that these pressers and commercial were on the card and must of agreed to them?
UfC200 is 3months out so plenty of time for a camp, so that reason is bull,
Maybe he thought he could get away with it because they wouldn't have the balls to pull him from the card and now they have.

So back to 145 where he never had any intention of returning to IMO.
If he beat RDA he was vacating the 145 belt which would of been a pussy move itself.
I think Dana knew that and was accommodating him get the 155 belt to keep the train chugging along.
Now he shot himself in the foot and back to 145 where we see what kind of a champion he is ,Winning the belt and running off never really proves anything lol.
Anybody can get knocked out or get lucky ( I'm not saying he has , I like Mcregor)
But there are a lot question marks in his run to the title.
Great champions defend their titles which he hasn't done yet and should of been made to.

What questions is there in his run to the title?

Augme

J Mysterio wrote: »

But they also look stupid for hosting a weak ass PR gig for ***UFC 200*** where the only topic is 'why is McGregor not going to be there?'

Dana just squirming. 'I wanted it' he says.

Whatever about Connor being selfish or egotistical, the UFC shot themselves in the foot and have managed to ban their biggest star from their flagship event.
'they want fight, the fans want them to fight, why not let them just fight?'

What a cluster****.

That's more Conor's fault than UFC/Dana. Without Conor it was always going to be a weak ass PR gig and Conor was the one who didn't show up.

CSF

Augme wrote: »

That's more Conor's fault than UFC/Dana. Without Conor it was always going to be a weak ass PR gig and Conor was the one who didn't show up.

It's not Conor's fault that the rest of the card isn't up to scratch.

eddie73

CSF wrote: »

It's not Conor's fault that the rest of the card isn't up to scratch.

Big fights on this card.

CSF

eddie73 wrote: »

Big fights on this card.

Name one fight that is the biggest one that could be made in the division.

Saipanne

eddie73 wrote: »

Not a question, a statement. There is a total contradiction in terms when it comes to trash talking to others, and then suddenly withdrawing.

I love how some claim to know his mind.

Swashbuckler

CSF wrote: »

Name one fight that is the biggest one that could be made in the division.

I don't normally disagree with you but Frankie v Aldo is up there.

CSF

Swashbuckler wrote: »

I don't normally disagree with you but Frankie v Aldo is up there.

It's a good fight, but a marquee event like this needs some 1st vs 2nd in the division title fights IMO.

J Mysterio

It was certainly rosy there for a while for McGregor. Won 145. Was then going to win 155, achieve his legacy as a two weight champion(!), and then just vacate 145.

Then that bizarre fight with Diaz at 170.. and defeat. Now refused 170 rematch at flagship event and consigned to dropping weight again.

He'll need a bit of mental toughness now and his teams support.

I'd say both the UFC and Kavanagh have let him down recently in (a) giving him the Diaz 170 fight originally, (b) giving him the rematch at 170, and (c) conspiring with him to screw 200.

mdwexford

XsApollo wrote: »

If he beat RDA he was vacating the 145 belt which would of been a pussy move itself.
I think Dana knew that and was accommodating him get the 155 belt to keep the train chugging along.
Now he shot himself in the foot and back to 145 where we see what kind of a champion he is ,Winning the belt and running off never really proves anything lol.
Anybody can get knocked out or get lucky ( I'm not saying he has , I like Mcregor)
But there are a lot question marks in his run to the title.
Great champions defend their titles which he hasn't done yet and should of been made to.

What do you lot be on about, moving up and winning the 155 belt and vacating the 145 belt would have been a pussy move?

It would have been the exact opposite of that.

Great champions take on the biggest fights and fight anyone anywhere anytime. Which is what Conor has always done.

There is only one man at 145 who deserves a crack at Conor. Everyone else got their chance.

CSF

I think 155 would be tough going for Conor. Dos Anjos, Khabib (most of all IMO) and even Diaz make that a minefield of a weight class for anyone.

J Mysterio

CSF wrote: »

I think 155 would be tough going for Conor. Dos Anjos, Khabib (most of all IMO) and even Diaz make that a minefield of a weight class for anyone.

Conor is the same height as Dos Anjos and actually has a minor reach advantage on him. I feel he could beat him. Not confident of Diaz II though.

Subcomandante Marcos

J Mysterio wrote: »

Conor is the same height as Dos Anjos and actually has a minor reach advantage on him. I feel he could beat him. Not confident of Diaz II though.

I think RDA is just too strong for him. He'd rag doll him and then feed him elbows on the ground.

I don't even want to think about what Khabib would do... Lawdy.

CSF

Absolutely he could beat him. But Dos Anjos would feel the exact same about his own chances.

Tigger

CSF wrote: »

Name one fight that is the biggest one that could be made in the division.

frankie aldo is the biggest that could be with Conor at 170