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Laws on no backbox?

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    #122
    Stheno
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    Daaryl wrote: »
    Stheno wrote: »

    No the modifications were already done to the car when i purchased it

    Eh, I'm confused now. Did you not say you put the straight pipe on the exhaust?


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    #123
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Daaryl wrote: »
    Can some help me out here and tell me who to go to about this?

    The psv officer rang me today and was saying the exhaust is illegal, the car is too low, wheels are too big on it, the hids are illegal, and the car has a brake light on and a airbag light on all easy fixes, Now i rang him back a few hours later saying if i accept the report i could have the back and he said yes you can have the car back if you accept the report and i was like grand and asked him who do i go to, To give accept the report of the vehicle, So went in anyway was speaking to a seargent, And he was like hold on there and let me speak to the psv officer, now the psv officer said there's alot more things wrong with the car, Like the exhaust could catch fire at anytime which is a load of bollox, The tracking is off so makes the car so unstable it can't be drove on the roads, bare in mind it's off a small little bit, and there's loads of other things wrong with the car and it's a ball of **** and all this, Now i went to my solicitor and told him the situation and he was like just go back up and tell them you can get the car back if it comes out on a low loader and tell them i said it, I was like grand, Went back up and was speaking to the girl and the seargent was getting annoyed with me at this point, Cause i want my car back, So i rang the station again today thinking the seargent would be finished work, Was speaking to a girl on the phone she was lovely, helpful and sound out, And she was like just come in tonight and ask the gaurd on the desk and say you were speaking to me, I was like right grand thanks, So when i went i was talking to a young gaurd at the desk, And i all i heard was the seargent in the back giving me abuse and abuse about my car, Saying it's a ball of **** and he's only a ****ing eijit all this that and the other, Can anybody help me out here and what to do cause i'm confused on the whole situation, I'm not looking for any comments like deserves you right and all that, Just want help on who i can speak to about getting the car back!

    This gets better. So you have a brake light that wouldn't go off, an airbag light that wouldn't go off, illegal hids, too low, wheels too big, the tracking is off, no tax, obscured number plate, obscured vision at the rear, no back box
    That car is a bloody risk on the road.
    The psv inspector is right.
    That car would never pass the nct as it is.
    Your solicitor already told you what to do but you aren't mentioning you said it?
    They will not let you drive that car back, get a tow truck and get it legal.


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    #124
    Veloce
    Registered Users Posts: 1,289 ✭✭✭Veloce


    emmetkenny wrote: »
    He listed them in the long post.

    The car is not road legal or safe to be on the road so will have to be collected on the back of a truck.

    And then what? He rectifies the issue then what is the procedure for getting it back on the road?


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    #125
    Stheno
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    Veloce wrote: »
    And then what? He rectifies the issue then what is the procedure for getting it back on the road?

    Another psv inspection against the report I'd imagine?


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    #126
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,922 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Veloce wrote: »
    And then what? He rectifies the issue then what is the procedure for getting it back on the road?

    Hell have to repair all the items listed in the PSV inspection and then bring the car back on a truck and have it rechecked.

    Only then will they say if it's allowed on the road again, or they can say the correct changes havny been made and send you off again.

    Much less stress to just sell it on now.


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    #127
    bear1
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    Stheno wrote: »
    Another psv inspection against the report I'd imagine?

    Yep and he'd have to tax it.


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    #128
    Escapees
    Registered Users Posts: 601 ✭✭✭Escapees


    Daaryl wrote: »
    The psv officer rang me today and was saying the exhaust is illegal, the car is too low, wheels are too big on it, the hids are illegal, and the car has a brake light on and a airbag light on all easy fixes, Now i rang him back a few hours later saying if i accept the report i could have the back and he said yes you can have the car back if you accept the report and i was like grand and asked him who do i go to, To give accept the report of the vehicle, So went in anyway was speaking to a seargent, And he was like hold on there and let me speak to the psv officer, now the psv officer said there's alot more things wrong with the car, Like the exhaust could catch fire at anytime which is a load of bollox, The tracking is off so makes the car so unstable it can't be drove on the roads, bare in mind it's off a small little bit, and there's loads of other things wrong with the car and it's a ball of **** and all this, Now i went to my solicitor and told him the situation and he was like just go back up and tell them you can get the car back if it comes out on a low loader and tell them i said it, I was like grand, Went back up and was speaking to the girl and the seargent was getting annoyed with me at this point, Cause i want my car back, So i rang the station again today thinking the seargent would be finished work, Was speaking to a girl on the phone she was lovely, helpful and sound out, And she was like just come in tonight and ask the gaurd on the desk and say you were speaking to me, I was like right grand thanks, So when i went i was talking to a young gaurd at the desk, And i all i heard was the seaback giving me abuse and abuse about my car, Saying it's a ball of **** and he's only a ****ing eijit all this that and the other, Can anybody help me out here and what to do cause i'm confused on the whole situation, I'm not looking for any comments like deserves you right and all that, Just want help on who i can speak to about getting the car back!

    Are these the lyrics of a new Macklemore song to follow up on Downtown?!


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    #129
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    bear1 wrote: »
    This gets better. So you have a brake light that wouldn't go off, an airbag light that wouldn't go off, illegal hids, too low, wheels too big, the tracking is off, no tax, obscured number plate, obscured vision at the rear, no back box
    That car is a bloody risk on the road.
    The psv inspector is right.
    That car would never pass the nct as it is.
    Your solicitor already told you what to do but you aren't mentioning you said it?
    They will not let you drive that car back, get a tow truck and get it legal.

    I'd love to know what kind of super mechanics his friends are to be able to sort this in one hour.


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    #130
    Stheno
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    bear1 wrote: »
    Yep and he'd have to tax it.

    And I imagine they'd want it to pass the NCT as well?


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    #131
    Gatling
    Registered Users Posts: 40,291 ✭✭✭✭Gatling


    If the car in question is dangerous could the Garda have it scrapped at all ??
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    #132
    TitianGerm
    Registered Users Posts: 27,922 ✭✭✭✭TitianGerm


    Stheno wrote: »
    And I imagine they'd want it to pass the NCT as well?

    And show a valid insurance policy.


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    #133
    Daaryl
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Daaryl


    tuxy wrote: »
    I'd love to know what kind of super mechanics his friends are to be able to sort this in one hour.

    Taking out the hids in 5-10mins job, fixing the exhaust is about 20mins and welding a backbox onto it, Raising the car up is another 15-20mins, that's them problems sorted right away, Then have to bring it to a auto electrician to get the lights on the dash turned off..


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    #134
    bear1
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    tuxy wrote: »
    I'd love to know what kind of super mechanics his friends are to be able to sort this in one hour.

    The kind which will remove the light bulb for the airbag.
    There is not a hope in hell you'd sort that out in an hour :D
    Tracking alone would take the bones of 30mins as I suspect the camber is probably fecked too.


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    #135
    Daaryl
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Daaryl


    bear1 wrote: »
    The kind which will remove the light bulb for the airbag.
    There is not a hope in hell you'd sort that out in an hour :D
    Tracking alone would take the bones of 30mins as I suspect the camber is probably fecked too.

    No because there's no airbag in the steering wheel as there's a aftermarket steering wheel in it.. Probably not have the car done in a hour, Might of being exaggerating about the hour, But could have it all fixed in a day anyway!


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    #136
    bear1
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    Daaryl wrote: »
    Taking out the hids in 5-10mins job, fixing the exhaust is about 20mins and welding a backbox onto it, Raising the car up is another 15-20mins, that's them problems sorted right away, Then have to bring it to a auto electrician to get the lights on the dash turned off..

    So as you can see... Not an hour.


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    #137
    bear1
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    Daaryl wrote: »
    No because there's no airbag in the steering wheel as there's a aftermarket steering wheel in it..

    Riiight. So how did you intend to pass the nct with the airbag light on?


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    #138
    Stheno
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    Daaryl wrote: »
    Taking out the hids in 5-10mins job, fixing the exhaust is about 20mins and welding a backbox onto it, Raising the car up is another 15-20mins, that's them problems sorted right away, Then have to bring it to a auto electrician to get the lights on the dash turned off..

    Ah, I see. Not going to see what the faults are that are causing the lights to be on and fixing it then?

    And what if the airbag light won't turn off?


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    #139
    Daaryl
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Daaryl


    bear1 wrote: »
    Riiight. So how did you intend to pass the nct with the airbag light on?

    Airbag light randomly came back on, It wasn't on when i got it, Just got in my car the other day and lights just came on and wouldn't go off


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    #140
    bear1
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    Stheno wrote: »
    And I imagine they'd want it to pass the NCT as well?

    Depends when he picks it up I suppose but it wouldn't surprise me if they'd ask for proof.
    I completely agree with the police here, one less death trap on the roads.


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    #141
    haskellgeek
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    And what if the airbag light won't turn off? Can't he just remove the bulb? just wondering


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    #142
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    I'm unclear what advice you are look for Daaryl. You are already in contact with your solicitor he will have better advice than anyone on here can offer.


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    #143
    Daaryl
    Registered Users Posts: 400 ✭✭Daaryl


    tuxy wrote: »
    I'm unclear what advice you are look for Daaryl. You are already in contact with your solicitor he will have better advice than anyone on here can offer.

    I know, But i'm just looking to who else i could speak to about the situation who'd help me out


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    #144
    bear1
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    Daaryl wrote: »
    Airbag light randomly came back on, It wasn't on when i got it, Just got in my car the other day and lights just came on and wouldn't go off

    Ah come on Daaryl. I don't know you from Adam but you are spouting nonsense.
    So randomly one day the ecu realised there was no airbag and the light went on.
    From your opening post you neglected so much.
    You were driving with a brake light constantly on, do you know know how dangerous that is?


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    #145
    Senna
    Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    bear1 wrote: »
    Ah come on Daaryl. I don't know you from Adam but you are spouting nonsense.
    So randomly one day the ecu realised there was no airbag and the light went on.
    From your opening post you neglected so much.
    You were driving with a brake light constantly on, do you know know how dangerous that is?

    In fairness, airbag lights come on for many reasons other than no airbag, I had a car that brought on an airbag light because the seat runner had frayed a wire that connected to the seatbelt. Airbags are more complicated than just airbag = yes or no.


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    #146
    bear1
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    Senna wrote: »
    In fairness, airbag lights come on for many reasons other than no airbag, I had a car that brought on an airbag light because the seat runner had frayed a wire that connected to the seatbelt. Airbags are more complicated than just airbag = yes or no.

    But surely the moment the airbag was removed the ecu would have noticed no signal being received and flick the warning light on?


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    #147
    Senna
    Registered Users Posts: 8,800 ✭✭✭Senna


    bear1 wrote: »
    But surely the moment the airbag was removed the ecu would have noticed no signal being received and flick the warning light on.

    Who says there no airbag?? OP stated the airbag light was on.
    But AFAIK if airbag light is on, it will not deploy in an accident.


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    #148
    Stheno
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    Senna wrote: »
    In fairness, airbag lights come on for many reasons other than no airbag, I had a car that brought on an airbag light because the seat runner had frayed a wire that connected to the seatbelt. Airbags are more complicated than just airbag = yes or no.

    And if it's the like of a problem with the airbag ecu, it's possible the light won't go off until you fix that


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    #149
    tuxy
    Closed Accounts Posts: 14,983 ✭✭✭✭tuxy


    It's an after market wheel with no airbag.
    Whoever took the airbag out may have made some change to stop the ecu showing a warning light. This change could have reset at some point.


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    #150
    bear1
    Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    Senna wrote: »
    Who says there no airbag?? OP stated the airbag light was on.
    But AFAIK if airbag light is on, it will not deploy in an accident.

    The op did... The wheel was substituted with an aftermarket one so there is no airbag.


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    #151
    runawaybishop
    Registered Users Posts: 9,504 ✭✭✭runawaybishop


    Daaryl wrote: »
    I know, But i'm just looking to who else i could speak to about the situation who'd help me out

    What do you need help for? Your solicitor told you to tow it away. Do that rather than trying to spoof, you are just setting yourself up for a driving career full or "random" checks by the guards as they now know your character.


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