National Hurling League 2016

Mushy · 13-03-2016 4:02pm

Awful goal to give away

Mushy · 13-03-2016 4:16pm

Third game in a row that Tipp miss good chances. Can't win by doing that.

dastardly00 · 13-03-2016 4:17pm

There's been some lovely points scored in this half.

dastardly00 · 13-03-2016 4:20pm

Tipp miss yet another guilt-edge goal chance.

Mushy · 13-03-2016 4:21pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

Tipp miss yet another guilt-edge goal chance.

Its happened 3 games in a row now, needs to be sorted

dastardly00 · 13-03-2016 4:27pm

It looks like Dublin are going to beat Waterford. It's impossible to predict any games these days in the NHL.

Mushy · 13-03-2016 4:34pm

Two fantastic scores at the end by both teams. The sideline cut was immense.

dastardly00 · 13-03-2016 4:35pm

Draw game. Fair result in the end. Very entertaining for the neutral. Cracking sideline cut from Canning to put Galway in the lead with a minute to go, and an even better point from Bubbles to equalise.

dastardly00 · 13-03-2016 4:38pm

And Dublin beat Waterford 0-19 to 0-14.

Mushy · 13-03-2016 4:39pm

dastardly00 wrote: »

And Dublin beat Waterford 0-19 to 0-14.

Big win for them

PTH2009 · 13-03-2016 4:49pm

Waterford played terrible but Dublin were all over them and deserved the win.

Dublin cud win this league

Davys Fits · 13-03-2016 4:50pm

Canning scored one goal, one point from play and one sideline cut that were all from the top drawer in the skills department. Magic stuff

PTH2009 · 13-03-2016 10:52pm

tables after round 4

1A

1 Dublin (6pts) PD(8)
2 Kilkenny (6Pts) PD(6)
3 Waterford (6pts) PD(3)
4 Tipperary (3pts) PD(8)

5 Galway (3Pts) PD(-5)
6 Cork (0pts)

1B

1 Limerick (8pts) PD(56)
2 Clare (8pts) PD(36)
3 Offaly (4pts) PD(-7)
4 Wexford (2pts) PD (-3)

5 Kerry (2pts) (-32)
6 Laois (0pts)

QF as it stands

Dublin vs Wexford
Offaly vs Kilkenny
Clare vs Waterford (coin toss for home venue)
Limerick vs Tipperary

if a team has played less than 3 home games during the group stages they will get home advantage in the quarters. If both teams have played 3 home games or both played 2 home games they will be a coin toss to determine home advantage.

dastardly00 · 14-03-2016 11:16am

If two or more teams finish on the same number of points, is it points difference (PD) that separates them? Does head-to-head result matter?

Speak Now · 14-03-2016 11:43am

dastardly00 wrote: »

If two or more teams finish on the same number of points, is it points difference (PD) that separates them? Does head-to-head result matter?

My understanding was that it's head to head if 2 teams but points difference if more than 2 teams. According to PTH2009 the head to head rule isn't being used this year.

PTH2009 · 14-03-2016 12:33pm

Speak Now wrote: »

My understanding was that it's head to head if 2 teams but points difference if more than 2 teams. According to PTH2009 the head to head rule isn't being used this year.

Was it not in 2014 that Dublin lost on the qfs on points difference ??.

Not 100% sure about the head to head but If it's head to head if kilkenny and Waterford lose then the table will finish

1 Dublin
2 Waterford
3 Kilkenny
4 Galway/tipp

Kavrocks · 14-03-2016 12:43pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Was it not in 2014 that Dublin lost on the qfs on points difference?

Yeah it was 2014. McMorrow had a great chance with the last puck of the game to score a point and send us in to the quarter finals but he went for a goal because we were losing by 3 points.

Head to head comes into play if only two teams are level on points. If 3 or more teams are level on points than scoring difference is used to decide positions. If head to head is being used to decide the positioning of teams but they drew then scoring difference is used.

PTH2009 · 14-03-2016 12:51pm

Kavrocks wrote: »

Yeah it was 2014. McMorrow had a great chance with the last puck of the game to score a point and send us in to the quarter finals but he went for a goal because we were losing by 3 points.

Head to head comes into play if only two teams are level on points. If 3 or more teams are level on points than scoring difference is used to decide positions. If head to head is being used to decide the positioning of teams but they drew then scoring difference is used.

So Waterford will be praying Dublin beat kilkenny if galway beat us ??? For 2ND place

Waterford will top the group if we beat galway and Kilkenny beat Dublin as head to head vs kilkenny would go in Waterford's favour ???

Speak Now · 14-03-2016 2:25pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

Was it not in 2014 that Dublin lost on the qfs on points difference ??.

Not 100% sure about the head to head but If it's head to head if kilkenny and Waterford lose then the table will finish

1 Dublin
2 Waterford
3 Kilkenny
4 Galway/tipp

Yeah in 2014 Tipp, Dublin and Waterford all ended on 4 points so it went to point difference instead of head to head.

Speak Now · 14-03-2016 2:28pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

So Waterford will be praying Dublin beat kilkenny if galway beat us ??? For 2ND place

Waterford will top the group if we beat galway and Kilkenny beat Dublin as head to head vs kilkenny would go in Waterford's favour ???

Not sure id go as far as praying

Win and they come top 2 regardless, 1st or 2nd pretty irrelevant to be honest.

dastardly00 · 17-03-2016 6:43pm

TG4 are showing the Clare-Limerick game live on Sunday... nice one!

Clare v Limerick @ 1.30pm (Live)
Tipperary v Cork @ 3.45pm (Deferred)

PTH2009 · 18-03-2016 6:08pm

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252237

Atm the quarters and semis look like this

Dublin vs Wexford
Kilkenny vs Offaly
Waterford vs Clare
Tipperary vs Limerick

Semis
Dublin/Wexford vs Tipperary/Limerick
Kilkenny/offaly vs Waterford/Clare

blackcard · 18-03-2016 7:21pm

PTH2009 wrote: »

http://hoganstand.com/ArticleForm.aspx?ID=252237

Atm the quarters and semis look like this

Dublin vs Wexford
Kilkenny vs Offaly
Waterford vs Clare
Tipperary vs Limerick

Semis
Dublin/Wexford vs Tipperary/Limerick
Kilkenny/offaly vs Waterford/Clare

Waterford certain to be in the top two unless it is a draw between KK and Dublin and Waterford do not win their match

mountgomery burns · 18-03-2016 8:04pm

blackcard wrote: »

Waterford certain to be in the top two unless it is a draw between KK and Dublin and Waterford do not win their match

It's done on head to head so if Dublin and Waterford lose Waterford will finish 3rd

dastardly00 · 20-03-2016 3:04pm

Eh... 15 or 16 steps for that goal??

zetecescort · 20-03-2016 3:27pm

no love lost in Ennis anyway, plenty shoulders in the chest, arms and hurleys around the neck etc

dastardly00 · 20-03-2016 3:39pm

Limerick were doing quite well in the first half considering they got rode for the Clare goal. But I can't see anything other than a Clare win now that they have a man advantage.
I can't remember what Barry Nash got the first yellow for, but the ref had no choice for the second yellow. He had to give it.
Cian Lynch has some serious skill.
Shane O'Donnell has been a complete passenger in the first half.

dastardly00 · 20-03-2016 4:19pm

I don't think it's blatantly obvious which team (Clare/Limerick) is playing with 14 men.

Hammer Archer · 20-03-2016 4:35pm

Kerry beat Offaly in Tullamore but unfortunately look like they're still facing a relegation playoff as Wexford came back from two points down against Laois in the last few minutes to win by a point.
Kerry finish second bottom thanks to points difference.

Brian017 · 20-03-2016 4:41pm

Hammer Archer wrote: »

Kerry beat Offaly in Tullamore but unfortunately look like they're still facing a relegation playoff as Wexford came back from two points down against Laois in the last few minutes to win by a point.
Kerry finish second bottom thanks to points difference.

It's hard luck on Kerry, for a few minutes they were looking at a QF with Kilkenny; now they're in a relegation playoff.

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