Double Gameweek Planning

Shedite27

Gonna make a thread on the DGW's and I'll keep the first post updated when things become clear.

First thing of note happened last night, with Leicester getting knocked out of the cup. One of the most common reason for a DGW is PL games getting postponed on FA Cup QF weekend. Games that do go ahead on GW30 are actually worth noting too however, as while most will have a blank GW30, these teams will be playing.

So the first fixture that will definitely go ahead on GW30 is...

• Leicester V Newcastle.

These teams will not have a DGW (unless weather etc kicks in). Probably not worth fretting much about yet, but the likes of Simpson (Lei) and Elliott (New) could be handy cheap subs to have that week.

Also, for reference, here's a great article about DGW's

Ziegler1988

Newcastle are still in line for a DGW if Man City advance to the League Cup final

Iused2likebusts

Wijnaldum with a potential double and a definite gw 30 fixture could soon be in a lot of teams. Hopefully elliot can keep his place one of the reasons I got him in wildcard was to cover me for gw30 was hoping for a spurs win in the replay. The way the fa cup draw is looking we could have as few as 3 or 4 fixtures in gw 30

FHFC

Possibly also another reason to keep Mahrez for a while.

Need to have a good look at dgw strategy, with Boards being down I've gotten quite distracted by random stuff like "work" and "family" so will be good to get back to really important stuff.....

sheroman01

That article is great, thanks! Very interesting if Man City or Liverpool get to the League Cup final. Aguero/Firminio TC!

If City beat Everton:
City could have Leicester (h) and Newcastle (a) in GW25; Newcastle’s other fixture would be WBA (h)

If Everton beat City:
Everton could have Stoke (a) and Liverpool (a) in GW25

If Stoke beat Liverpool:
Stoke could have Everton (h) and Villa (h) in GW25; Villa’s other fixture would be Norwich (h)

If Liverpool beat Stoke:
Liverpool could have Sunderland (h) and Everton (h) in GW25

Lemlin

sheroman01 wrote: »

That article is great, thanks! Very interesting if Man City or Liverpool get to the League Cup final. Aguero/Firminio TC!

Aguero TC for that GW surely. Hopefully City beat Everton this week.

Ziegler1988

Someone on FFS made a calendar tracking potential DGWs and blanks as well as fixtures that are safe: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zcb5jGdVitByKQ8R1X4gcEBpiNY9qbLylr72btlTubc/edit#gid=1214293201

FHFC

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

Someone on FFS made a calendar tracking potential DGWs and blanks as well as fixtures that are safe: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1zcb5jGdVitByKQ8R1X4gcEBpiNY9qbLylr72btlTubc/edit#gid=1214293201

Results we want in FA Cup....
Portsmouth to beat Bournemouth will mean Swansea will have games in both 30 and 35. Already have a game in 35.
- Good for Williams owners. Siggy and Ayew become interesting.

Palace to beat Stoke will mean Southampton have a game both 30 and 35 assuming Man City also beat Villa. If Matty Targett keeps his place he'll be gold. Austin could be a great option too.

Edit: As pointed out below the rest of this post is crap as the last 16 of the Cup is on after GW26. It does still show that theres a high chance a lot of PL sides will still be in the last 16. There are 3 all PL ties and 8 more with lower league opposition of which 5 you'd expect to win handy enough. But then its the Cup!

Looking at the Cup draw if the following ties involving PL sides go with the pretty strong favourite then GW30 will be decimated.

*Man U to beat Derby *Spurs beat Colchester *Arsenal beat Burnley *Chelsea beat MK Dons *City beat Villa *Everton beat Carlisle

If the rest all lost (Bournemouth, WBA, Watford, Stoke) it would still leave GW30 as only:
Bournemouth v Swansea
Leicester v Newcastle
Stoke v Southampton

If Bournemouth also beat Portsmouth away and Stoke win at Palace then Leicester v Newcastle could be the only PL game in GW30.

It certainly looks likely that 3 or 4 PL games will be the height of it that week.

Ziegler1988

FHFC wrote: »

Results we want in FA Cup....
Portsmouth to beat Bournemouth will mean Swansea will have games in both 30 and 35. Already have a game in 35.
- Good for Williams owners. Siggy and Ayew become interesting.

Palace to beat Stoke will mean Southampton have a game both 30 and 35 assuming Man City also beat Villa. If Matty Targett keeps his place he'll be gold. Austin could be a great option too.

Looking at the Cup draw if the following ties involving PL sides go with the pretty strong favourite then GW30 will be decimated.

*Man U to beat Derby *Spurs beat Colchester *Arsenal beat Burnley *Chelsea beat MK Dons *City beat Villa *Everton beat Carlisle

If the rest all lost (Bournemouth, WBA, Watford, Stoke) it would still leave GW30 as only:
Bournemouth v Swansea
Leicester v Newcastle
Stoke v Southampton

If Bournemouth also beat Portsmouth away and Stoke win at Palace then Leicester v Newcastle could be the only PL game in GW30.

It certainly looks likely that 3 or 4 PL games will be the height of it that week.

There's still one more round of the FA Cup after this before GW30 blank

FHFC

Ziegler1988 wrote: »

There's still one more round of the FA Cup after this before GW30 blank

Ah fcuk. Is there? I got the wrong impression from that spreadsheet.

The first half of that post still makes sense then.

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

Ah fcuk. Is there? I got the wrong impression from that spreadsheet.

The first half of that post still makes sense then.

I'm impressed though you are getting to my level of dgw obsessive overthinking. Easy mistake to make you were probably a bit giddy from all those monthly prizes you have been winning.

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

I'm impressed though you are getting to my level of dgw obsessive overthinking. Easy mistake to make you were probably a bit giddy from all those monthly prizes you have been winning.

I was just looking at the second page of that spreadsheet and comparing the draw with the GW30 schedule.

Given I'm going for the late wildcard DGW planning is going to be crucial. Depending on how the Cup goes then I think GW30 could be a key area where the DGW wildcarders can gain advantage. If GW30 has only 4 games, which is still very possible, the I can work from GW25 to maximise a team for Gw30 with a view to wikdcarding soon after. GW33 wildcard is the template plan but going in 31 or 32 after putting out a very strong GW30 team might be an alternative plan.

I'm very possibly gonna out-obsess you this year!

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

I was just looking at the second page of that spreadsheet and comparing the draw with the GW30 schedule.

Given I'm going for the late wildcard DGW planning is going to be crucial. Depending on how the Cup goes then I think GW30 could be a key area where the DGW wildcarders can gain advantage. If GW30 has only 4 games, which is still very possible, the I can work from GW25 to maximise a team for Gw30 with a view to wikdcarding soon after. GW33 wildcard is the template plan but going in 31 or 32 after putting out a very strong GW30 team might be an alternative plan.

I'm very possibly gonna out-obsess you this year!

Ye that gw 31 plan was something I was thinking about before I wildcarded. It could work out really well particularly if there are no fa cup qf replays. Dgw planning is even more important for us early wildcarders as we have no easy way to load up on Dgw players. I really hope there is a Dgw in 25 as I set up for that and gw 30 in my wildcard by getting Newcastle and Leicester Def coverage. It's a pity this week's bandwagon firmino will probably end up having a double.

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Ye that gw 31 plan was something I was thinking about before I wildcarded. It could work out really well particularly if there are no fa cup qf replays. Dgw planning is even more important for us early wildcarders as we have no easy way to load up on Dgw players. I really hope there is a Dgw in 25 as I set up for that and gw 30 in my wildcard by getting Newcastle and Leicester Def coverage. It's a pity this week's bandwagon firmino will probably end up having a double.

I suppose the dgw plan is vital for everyone and even trickier for the no wildcard lads. I'm obviously really hoping for a decimated GW30 as i think that will be the best outcome for a wildcard.

Firminos potential double was one of the reasons i went for him (as well as OOP, great attacking stats since up front and great fixtures 23 to 26). It was a calculated bet on Liverpool finishing the job vs Stoke as I took out Arnie for him.

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

I suppose the dgw plan is vital for everyone and even trickier for the no wildcard lads. I'm obviously really hoping for a decimated GW30 as i think that will be the best outcome for a wildcard.

Firminos potential double was one of the reasons i went for him (as well as OOP, great attacking stats since up front and great fixtures 23 to 26). It was a calculated bet on Liverpool finishing the job vs Stoke as I took out Arnie for him.

I'm hoping for the same in gw 30 and a monster dgw in 34 which would help us early wildcarders get close to the number of dgw players a wildcarder could have.

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

FHFC wrote: »

I suppose the dgw plan is vital for everyone and even trickier for the no wildcard lads. I'm obviously really hoping for a decimated GW30 as i think that will be the best outcome for a wildcard.

Firminos potential double was one of the reasons i went for him (as well as OOP, great attacking stats since up front and great fixtures 23 to 26). It was a calculated bet on Liverpool finishing the job vs Stoke as I took out Arnie for him.

I'm hoping for the same in gw 30 and a monster dgw in 34 which would help us early wildcarders get close to the number of dgw players a wildcarder could have.

Yeah. But surely you will find it much harder to have a high number of players in 30 and then field DGW players in 34 from mainly the teams that don't play in 30. In your analysis thread you'll need to include gw30 players fielded as a comparison.

Wildcarding between 30 and 34 to make the switch around is where I hope to gain ground.

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

Yeah. But surely you will find it much harder to have a high number of players in 30 and then field DGW players in 34 from mainly the teams that don't play in 30. In your analysis thread you'll need to include gw30 players fielded as a comparison.

Wildcarding between 30 and 34 to make the switch around is where I hope to gain ground.

Ye the analysis thread states gw 30 as a key week we need to look at for number of players played. For gw 30 I currently have 2 Leicester and 1 newcastle. I've also a saved transfer so hoping to be able to get a fairly strong team for gw 30 obviously not as strong as somebody that would wildcard in gw31. If you do it there I think you will be in the minority but I think it's a very interesting time to play it. There is going to be complications for people no matter when they play a wildcard as we could have doubles in 25 34 and 37 and blanks in 27 30 and 35. It's hard to know when the optimal time to play it is.

Lemlin

My plan is to probably wildcard the week before a DGW and then use my bench boost during the DGW having filled my team with 15 decent starters.

I'll also try to use TC the week Aguero has a decent double (if City win tomorrow).

spock.

Liverpool and Everton blank GW27 confirmed

the groutch

of course if Everton win tomorrow, that's the only blank that week.

CSF

the groutch wrote: »

of course if Everton win tomorrow, that's the only blank that week.

I hope this doesn't happen, if only so I'm guaranteed Aguero with a decent DGW for treble captaining.

Cookie_Dough

CSF wrote: »

I hope this doesn't happen, if only so I'm guaranteed Aguero with a decent DGW for treble captaining.

What gameweek could that be? I'll be intending to do the same.

CSF

Cookie_Dough wrote: »

What gameweek could that be? I'll be intending to do the same.

Potentially GW25.

Shedite27

Only potential DGW's are...
GW25, GW34 or GW37.

Of course, if both are knocked out of the cup this weekend, they can play their league fixture the FA Cup weekend, which avoids the blank GW27 (as happened with Swa/Liv a few years back).

Shedite27

Only potential DGW's are...
GW25, GW34 or GW37.

Of course, if both are knocked out of the cup this weekend, they can play their league fixture the FA Cup weekend, which avoids the blank GW27 (as happened with Swa/Liv a few years back).

the groutch

somehow I doubt Everton will be losing to Carlisle, unless they put out a complete 2nd/3rd squad.

btw isn't the midweek after GW25 not also allocated to FA Cup replays?
so if Liverpool - West Ham is a draw the DGW in GW25 wouldn't be possible. (same if City go through tonight and draw against Villa in the FA Cup)

Iused2likebusts

Shedite27 wrote: »

Only potential DGW's are...
GW25, GW34 or GW37.

Of course, if both are knocked out of the cup this weekend, they can play their league fixture the FA Cup weekend, which avoids the blank GW27 (as happened with Swa/Liv a few years back).

The blank will still happen in gw27 as the carling cup final is on. Potentially Liverpool Everton could be rescheduled for gw 30 if both are out of the FA Cup. However whatever game they are due to have in gw 30 would then be moved to gw 34 giving us a double then.

spock.

the groutch wrote:

somehow I doubt Everton will be losing to Carlisle, unless they put out a complete 2nd/3rd squad.

btw isn't the midweek after GW25 not also allocated to FA Cup replays? so if Liverpool - West Ham is a draw the DGW in GW25 wouldn't be possible. (same if City go through tonight and draw against Villa in the FA Cup)

Correct. The potential dgw25 is more hope than expectation at this point.

Iused2likebusts

Just thinking with potential FA cup replays these games can't be refined until Jan 30th and would need to be refined for Feb 9/10 to make a double in GW25. I wonder is that too short notice for a game to be refixed for.

FHFC

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Just thinking with potential FA cup replays these games can't be refined until Jan 30th and would need to be refined for Feb 9/10 to make a double in GW25. I wonder is that too short notice for a game to be refixed for.

In the spreadsheet Ziegler posted yer man had the midweek of 16/17 Feb (GW26) marked as potential FA Cup replays. This is the midweek the CL starts up again, and while there is a rule that no midweek PL games are played that week I doubt that applies to Cup replays. So if Liverpool have a cup replay it could possibly happen then with the league game in GW25.

City don't play Kiev in the CL till the following week 24th Feb. So if they draw with Villa in FA Cup it may also be possible to have that replay in GW26 also.

In other words, if Cup replays can happen the same week as CL games the PL could refix a potential Liverpool and City league games for GW25 tomorrow morning and then in the event of an FA Cup replay for either cross that bridge after 30th Jan and fix for GW26.

Hows that for obsessive fixture analysis.....

Ziegler1988

Arsenal already have 9/10 Feb on schedule for possible replay. I think they could do the 10 day window after this weekend to the following midweek if neither team has a replay. It's enough time to coordinate with the police

Iused2likebusts

FHFC wrote: »

In the spreadsheet Ziegler posted yer man had the midweek of 16/17 Feb (GW26) marked as potential FA Cup replays. This is the midweek the CL starts up again, and while there is a rule that no midweek PL games are played that week I doubt that applies to Cup replays. So if Liverpool have a cup replay it could possibly happen then with the league game in GW25.

City don't play Kiev in the CL till the following week 24th Feb. So if they draw with Villa in FA Cup it may also be possible to have that replay in GW26 also.

In other words, if Cup replays can happen the same week as CL games the PL could refix a potential Liverpool and City league games for GW25 tomorrow morning and then in the event of an FA Cup replay for either cross that bridge after 30th Jan and fix for GW26.

Hows that for obsessive fixture analysis.....

Oh right I didn't read that spreadsheet going by the post's above I was assuming the replays had to be midweek of Feb 9.
Liverpool play in augsburg Feb 18 the midweek of gw 26 so that's not a runner for an FA cup replay. So Liverpool would have to have a replay midweek of 25.

patmac

My head hurts reading this, well done to all involved.

spock.

FHFC wrote: »

In other words, if Cup replays can happen the same week as CL games the PL could refix a potential Liverpool and City league games for GW25 tomorrow morning and then in the event of an FA Cup replay for either cross that bridge after 30th Jan and fix for GW26.

Liverpool have Europa League in gw26 though.
Edit: nevermind, busts already pointed that out

FHFC

spock. wrote: »

Liverpool have Europa League in gw26 though.
Edit: nevermind, busts already pointed that out

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

Oh right I didn't read that spreadsheet going by the post's above I was assuming the replays had to be midweek of Feb 9.
Liverpool play in augsburg Feb 18 the midweek of gw 26 so that's not a runner for an FA cup replay. So Liverpool would have to have a replay midweek of 25.

Forgot about Europa. It was a good theory while it lasted!

If Liverpool draw in the FA Cup ther'll be serious fixture congestion for them!

Potential Underachiever

patmac wrote: »

My head hurts reading this, well done to all involved.

Yup mine too! Fair play to the lads for breaking it down! I presume things will become a bit clearer tonight once the LC finalists are known.

Shedite27

Iused2likebusts wrote: »

The blank will still happen in gw27 as the carling cup final is on. Potentially Liverpool Everton could be rescheduled for gw 30 if both are out of the FA Cup. However whatever game they are due to have in gw 30 would then be moved to gw 34 giving us a double then.

A few years back the same thing happened, League Cup finalists were due to play the same weekend in the league and had a blank the week before (Swans/Liv). THey played that game the week before so GW27 was a full 10-game week, with games split over 7 days. Unlikely to happen this year tho.

We'll know all on Monday.

Iused2likebusts

Shedite27 wrote: »

A few years back the same thing happened, League Cup finalists were due to play the same weekend in the league and had a blank the week before (Swans/Liv). THey played that game the week before so GW27 was a full 10-game week, with games split over 7 days. Unlikely to happen this year tho.

We'll know all on Monday.

Ye I remember that. I was thinking you meant the games going to qf week gw 30 but you mean 5th Rd which is the weekend between gw 26 and 27. That is a possibility if both Everton and Liverpool lose. Would that be classed as gw 26 or gw 27.

2nd Row Donkey

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If and ands, pots and pans as me auld maths teacher used to say.

When do we play Aguero TC lads, that's all we want to know!

Cookie_Dough

2nd Row Donkey wrote: »

Yeah, yeah, yeah. If and ands, pots and pans as me auld maths teacher used to say.

When do we play Aguero TC lads, that's all we want to know!

Potentially GW25. I asked the same earlier and CSF kindly replied

Iused2likebusts

Bunch of casuals ☺

2nd Row Donkey

Cookie_Dough wrote:

Potentially GW25. I asked the same earlier and CSF kindly replied

Iused2likebusts wrote:

Bunch of casuals ☺

Job done. Lock the thread mods

spock.

spock. wrote:

Liverpool and Everton blank GW27 confirmed

Man City and Newcastle blank GW27 too.
DGW dates to be announced.

JakeArmitage

So with De bruyne potenitally out for a while and with the DB game weeks looming who would be best to get in for him, im think sanchez?

km79

spock. wrote: »

Man City and Newcastle blank GW27 too.
DGW dates to be announced.

Oh SUGAR
Both my goalies will have no game so

lougal88

JakeArmitage wrote: »

So with De bruyne potenitally out for a while and with the DB game weeks looming who would be best to get in for him, im think sanchez?

Yeah Sanchez.

If you're gonna do it this week consider doing it now. Kdb dropping in value tonight and possibly a 3rd drop by next GW.

JakeArmitage

lougal88 wrote: »

Yeah Sanchez.

If you're gonna do it this week consider doing it now. Kdb dropping in value tonight and possibly a 3rd drop by next GW.

Done, I'm potentially considering ozil to either firminho or silva. What you reckon. Not this week but soon

lougal88

JakeArmitage wrote: »

Done, I'm potentially considering ozil to either firminho or silva. What you reckon. Not this week but soon

Keep tabs on Ozil. He shouldn't drop tonight but definitely will before next GW. Depends on the double GW coming up. I'd want Silva for that.

ElTel

Guys is it now as straightforward as there will be a DGW 25 for Liverpool and Everton if they both win in the FA cup this weekend?

PARlance

I have a spare 0.1 to lose on KDB and Ozil. Hopefully I'll have figured out what the hell is going on by then.

Iused2likebusts

raging about that kdb injury. Massive let off for those without him if there is a dgw25.