Transgender women stoned in Germany

masti123

The three men, according to Yasmine and Elisa, propositioned them. After the men realized that Yasmine and Elisa are transgender women, the men launched their assault with stones.

Sounds like they thought they were hot and then realised they were transgender. So in order to restore their own sense of sexuality they attacked that part of themselves they saw in these people.

Scary stuff.

http://www.jpost.com/International/North-African-men-attempt-to-stone-transgender-women-in-German-city-441695

The Sidewards Man

Whats trans do between the sheets is their own story.

BreadnBuddha

masti123 wrote: »

Sounds like they thought they were hot and then realised they were transgender. So in order to restore their own sense of sexuality they attacked that part of themselves they saw in these people.

Scary stuff.

http://www.jpost.com/International/North-African-men-attempt-to-stone-transgender-women-in-German-city-441695

Sensationalist propaganda, from a heavily biased source.

LGBT people suffer physical attacks carried out with brutal disregard for the victims all the time, none of which are likely to have any 'reportage' in this type of 'news' outlet.

What's scary is that people in Ireland and other western countries seem so willing to latch onto these media channels now, completely ignorant to the fact that they're drinking from a poisoned chalice.

jimgoose

Humph. You 5.56mm a few of them to death for being gowls and you're the asshole all of a sudden. Discrimination your sister.

Canadel

That kind of behaviour belongs in the stone age.

One eyed Jack

masti123 wrote: »

Sounds like they thought they were hot and then realised they were transgender. So in order to restore their own sense of sexuality they attacked that part of themselves they saw in these people.

Scary stuff.

http://www.jpost.com/International/North-African-men-attempt-to-stone-transgender-women-in-German-city-441695

I don't understand this bit OP? They didn't have sex with them, or they did? They attacked themselves?

The_Kew_Tour

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

Sensationalist propaganda, from a heavily biased source.

LGBT people suffer physical attacks carried out with brutal disregard for the victims all the time, none of which are likely to have any 'reportage' in this type of 'news' outlet.

What's scary is that people in Ireland and other western countries seem so willing to latch onto these media channels now, completely ignorant to the fact that they're drinking from a poisoned chalice.

What's scary imo, is that people like you actually think we should just brush this under the carpet.

Surely Gays, women should be able to walk or do what they like

Sensationalist my arse

Canadel

A police car appeared at the train station as the stoning attack unfolded and arrested the men.

Sticks and stones will break transgender bones but not if a police car pulls up and stops it.

MadDog76

I thought this thread was about German sluts with nuts smoking marijuana .........

Mod-Banned

Azalea

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What's scary imo, is that people like you actually think we should just brush this under the carpet.

Surely Gays, women should be able to walk or do what they like

Sensationalist my arse

I think they mean there are often attacks on transgender and gay people but they don't get reported because there is no refugees angle.

Whosthis

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What's scary imo, is that people like you actually think we should just brush this under the carpet.

Surely Gays, women should be able to walk or do what they like

Sensationalist my arse

Having read the article it does sound sensationalist. "Stoned" sounds like an exaggeration, the article says they picked stonee from a gravel bed, sounds more to me like they were "pebbled". Is it unacceptable? Yes. Is it distasteful? Yes. Is it a Jewish newspaper taking any opportunity they can find to bash muslims? Yes.

The_Kew_Tour

Azalea wrote: »

I think they mean there are often attacks on transgender and gay people but they don't get reported because there is no refugees angle.

Fair enough, but people getting stoned? That's a new one in Western Society this decade tbf

BreadnBuddha

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What's scary imo, is that people like you actually think we should just brush this under the carpet.

Surely Gays, women should be able to walk or do what they like

Sensationalist my arse

Brush it under the carpet? Would you ever cop on to yourself? I suggest no such thing.

The report is all about the heinous attack, stoning by north african youths, followed by references to Iran and other muslim states treatment of LGBT people etc.

All reported by an Israeli news outlet.

The whole intent of that article and the OP in posting here in the first place is to have another go at Muslims in general, to spread fear about Islam.

If it was about the plight of the victims, the Jewish press would have focused on attacks on LGBT people generally. The victims merely provided an opportunity to cast all muslims from the region in a bad light.

Get all uppity if you want. You're missing the point.

mynameis905

Three young men from North Africa were arrested on Saturday in the western German city of Dortmund for stoning two transgender women.

The three men are between 16 and 18 years-old and are known to the authorities from theft and assault arrests.

Quelle surprise.

Deport these shítbags and drastically curtail immigration without any further delay. There is literally no other way out of the mess that Germany is increasingly finding itself in.

The_Kew_Tour

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

Brush it under the carpet? Would you ever cop on to yourself? I suggest no such thing.

The report is all about the heinous attack, stoning by north african youths, followed by references to Iran and other muslim states treatment of LGBT people etc.

All reported by an Israeli news outlet.

The whole intent of that article and the OP in posting here in the first place is to have another go at Muslims in general, to spread fear about Islam.

If it was about the plight of the victims, the Jewish press would have focused on attacks on LGBT people generally. The victims merely provided an opportunity to cast all muslims from the region in a bad light.

Get all uppity if you want. You're missing the point.

They are telling the truth. I see nothing wrong with them saying where they are from.

Well I like see where they branded "all Muslims in bad light"?

I give you a clue. They didn't.

kupus

I am wondering will the liberal agenda change after this attack?

Whosthis

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

They are telling the truth. I see nothing wrong with them saying where they are from.

Well I like see where they branded "all Muslims in bad light"?

I give you a clue. They didn't.

They did, the second half of the article goes off on a rant about Muslim intolerance to LGBTs in the middle east.

BoJack Horseman

Whosthis wrote: »

They did, the second half of the article goes off on a rant about Muslim intolerance to LGBTs in the middle east.

Which is ridiculous...

We all know that the Islamic world is a bastion of peace & tolerance for all mankind, that's why so many people flock to it.

BreadnBuddha

kupus wrote: »

I am wondering will the liberal agenda change after this attack?

The liberal agenda? You're watching too much Fox News. Or reading too much of Pamela Gellar and cohorts BS.

How about taking things with a pinch of salt.

Two trans women were the victims of an assault. Attackers apprehended by police. Job done, for now.

Now, question the way that 'news' was delivered and just how much bias was attached in the article. Tabloidesque horse crap was the side dish. Hardly surprising when you consider the geopolitical interests at play in Israeli media machinery.

What surprises me is that Irish people are so easily led. It's more than just naivety. It's stupidity at work, accepting the crap that's being put in front of you by such an anti-muslim, pro-israeli agency.

The_Kew_Tour

Whosthis wrote: »

They did, the second half of the article goes off on a rant about Muslim intolerance to LGBTs in the middle east.

They didn't. They never said anything about good Muslims. They have targeted countries and rightly so who kill and murder Gay people.

You do realise Gay people get hanged in Iran twice weekly in a local gathering. I saw one myself in 2006. Pretty **** my pance stuff I will admit.

They are stating facts. Unless people are stupid enough to think that it's all just some sort of film and that people thrown off buildings in videos are actors then we have some bad news to tell you

Whosthis

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Which is ridiculous...

We all know that the Islamic world is a bastion of peace & tolerance for all mankind, that's why so many people flock to it.

I'm not refuting that for one minute, just pointing out the previous posters denial of what is said in the article.

BreadnBuddha

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

They are telling the truth. I see nothing wrong with them saying where they are from.

Well I like see where they branded "all Muslims in bad light"?

I give you a clue. They didn't.

There's a clear and deliberate inference in that article, all thanks to references to common treatment of members of the LGBT communities in named Muslim countries.

It's not news. It's an unconfirmed report (and I'll take it for granted it occured) of an event in Germany, reported in Israel, which provided a prime opportunity to criticise numerous Arab nations for human rights abuses.

Coming from an Israeli news agency, that's a bit pot/kettle/black.

BigJackC

mynameis905 wrote: »

Quelle surprise.

Deport these shítbags and drastically curtail immigration without any further delay. There is literally no other way out of the mess that Germany is increasingly finding itself in.

Nobody is going home.

Deutsche Welle wrote:

Why rejected asylum seekers are seldom deported - In no other industrialized nation have so many people applied for asylum in the past year than in Germany. Around half of the applications are rejected, but that seldom has consequences for the applicant.

In this digital age, it's not just millions of banal emails that are sent around the world, but also important messages. Information that can spark a massive reaction. Like the fact that in Germany, the risk of being deported is pretty small despite a rejected asylum application. Refugees know this, and it's one of the reasons why Germany remains their preferred destination.

Wilfred Burghardt, the former leader of a committee on repatriation known as AG Rück, says the flaws in Germany's deportation system are a significant "pull factor." Clearly, the Achilles' heel of Germany's generous asylum law is the lack of consequences that follow rejection. The biggest obstacles to deportation are:

Unknown identity

Around 80 percent of asylum seekers arrive in Germany with fake papers, or no papers at all. That's especially true for migrants from countries where there is no war or persecution. Aid organizations say that many people opt for fake papers because there are no legal means to enter Germany. But it's not possible to deport a person without any papers once their application for asylum has been rejected. Even once the country of origin has been established, many states refuse to take their citizens back.

The vast majority of these people will never be sent home - no matter if their claims are genuine or not.

The_Kew_Tour

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

There's a clear and deliberate inference in that article, all thanks to references to common treatment of members of the LGBT communities in named Muslim countries.

It's not news. It's an unconfirmed report (and I'll take it for granted it occured) of an event in Germany, reported in Israel, which provided a prime opportunity to criticise numerous Arab nations for human rights abuses.

Coming from an Israeli news agency, that's a bit pot/kettle/black.

Fair point on last bit, in fact you're correct.

But, I just think it does need be highlighted how awful Gays and women are treated in many parts of world.

I just
1. Dont think this is a Muslim bashing piece
2. Where they are from should be highlighted, if they feel so
3. They are stating facts and that's very welcome, surely

Whosthis

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

I
1. Dont think this is a Muslim bashing piece

Anything in the article that does not directly relate to this incident is superfluous and is only included to push an agenda. It's nothing but Muslim bashing.

Whosthis

http://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/4971/3222010

Thats the police report.

BoJack Horseman

Whosthis wrote: »

Anything in the article that does not directly relate to this incident is superfluous and is only included to push an agenda

Or just context padding, like most articles on anyting.

It's nothing but Muslim bashing.

Awww....the poor craturs.

Whosthis

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Or just context padding, like most articles on anyting.


Awww....the poor craturs.

Funyy then that I've read four articles on the same incident from four different news outlets and none of them have included any of that garbage.

BoJack Horseman

Whosthis wrote: »

none of them have included any of that garbage.

What was it about the 'extras' in the piece that you found inaccurate?

Ken.

Mod-One person banned for a very distasteful joke. Keep this on topic or it will be locked. First and only warning

Whosthis

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

What was it about the 'extras' in the piece that you found inaccurate?

I never said they were inaccurate, I said they were irrelevant to the story and only included to push an anti-muslim agenda.

K-9

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

They are telling the truth. I see nothing wrong with them saying where they are from.

Well I like see where they branded "all Muslims in bad light"?

I give you a clue. They didn't.

In fairness we are told to be suspicious of mainstream media, especially those with an agenda.

BoJack Horseman

Whosthis wrote: »

I never said they were inaccurate

Well, then your cribbing looks all the more hollow doesnt it?.

If a faith is being slandered, then the lies would be easy to prove....
However stating a fact cannot in a free society be considered pushing an agenda.... they are just what they are... facts.

If reading truths makes you feel uncomfortable, I recommend reading lies instead to make you feel better, no agendas with lies after all.

Whosthis

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Well, then your cribbing looks all the more hollow doesnt it?.

If a faith is being slandered, then the lies would be easy to prove....
However stating a fact cannot in a free society be considered pushing an agenda!

If reading truths makes you feel uncomfortable, I recommend reading lies instead to make you feel better.

I notice you've edited my post to fit your own agenda. I have no problem reading truths, if you check back over my posts in this thread I've never once claimed there was inaccuracies. What I did question was their relevance to what happened in Dortmund.

Also, do you really believe that a Jewish Israeli newspaper is not pushing an anti-muslim agenda?

BoJack Horseman

Whosthis wrote: »

I notice you've edited my post to fit your own agenda.

Sorry friend... I haven't... every quote of yours is what it is... no words added whatsoever.

Your case for the defence is falling apart.

Whosthis wrote: »

What I did question was their relevance to what happened in Dortmund.

Take it up with them then....
However to me (and to others) framing this slice of homophobia & violence in the prism of Islam's considerable hostility towards homosexuality or LGBT matters in general seems reasonable.

As I said, once it's the truth.... its the truth.
Adults can make up their own minds as to whether Islam has an issue with gay people.... it appears it does.

Whosthis

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

Sorry friend... I haven't... every quote of yours is what it is... no words added whatsoever.

Your case for the defence is falling apart.

I'm done :Never argue with an idiot. They will only bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.

BoJack Horseman

Whosthis wrote: »

I'm done

Of course you are!

B*tching about agenda's in an article that states no falsehoods was a flimsy excuse for a defence in the first place.

jungleman

Whosthis wrote: »

Anything in the article that does not directly relate to this incident is superfluous and is only included to push an agenda. It's nothing but Muslim bashing.

It could be argued that the second half of the article simply provides context to explain the reasons for the attack.

If it isn't, so what if it is "Muslim bashing"? Islam is perfectly open to criticism, just like any other ideology. And rightly so if it is bashed, when a recurring result of the ideology is to treat women and gays like they're sub-human.

polan

Three young men from North Africa

Why am I not surprised.

The_Kew_Tour

K-9 wrote: »

In fairness we are told to be suspicious of mainstream media, especially those with an agenda.

And then they're those trying protect Women, Gays from more attacks, and making people aware of lack of respect, certain elements will have.

Of all countries Jews are trying protect I doubt it be Germany for a reason or 6 million, sadly.

So fair play to this paper

conorhal

kupus wrote: »

I am wondering will the liberal agenda change after this attack?

The liberal agenda pushers have shown themselves to be more then willing to throw their sisters under the bus to avoid handing 'the real enemy' a moral victory. Their attempts to silence any negative coverage of the migrant crisis is a zero sum game.

I see that already some are killing the messenger and wailing about people posting articles from right wing sites while failing to realise that is the inevitable consequence of the conspiracy of silence from RTE and the Times, who have shown themselves to be every bit as much propagandist in their approach as these right wing sites that they are complaining about.

.

Fleawuss

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

It's not news.

So the news that should be published is the news that you approve of? A deeply frightening example of the Dr Goebbels approach.
Facts and truth are what people need to reach conclusions not the Goebbels disciples of left and right.

bruno1x

You couldn't make it up, the bleeding hearts of the left are leading the campaign to bring more of these immigrants into Europe, these same new arrivals 100% despise every single thing that the left hold dear.
Is it comedy or tragedy the world view of the bleeding hearts?

BreadnBuddha

Fleawuss wrote: »

So the news that should be published is the news that you approve of? A deeply frightening example of the Dr Goebbels approach.
Facts and truth are what people need to reach conclusions not the Goebbels disciples of left and right.

A select micro-quote, as taking it in context doesn't give you much ground for agument.

I did nazi that coming. Pfft.

thattequilagirl

The_Kew_Tour wrote: »

What's scary imo, is that people like you actually think we should just brush this under the carpet.

Surely Gays, women should be able to walk or do what they like

Of course they should. All crimes of this nature should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Here's the thing: Muslims make up about 1/6th of the population of the world - are we going to start a new thread every time one of them commits a crime.

I guarantee you somewhere in the world right now an Irish guy is being tried for assault or rape. Should we all be tarred with that brush?

MRnotlob606

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

The liberal agenda? You're watching too much Fox News. Or reading too much of Pamela Gellar and cohorts BS.

How about taking things with a pinch of salt.

Two trans women were the victims of an assault. Attackers apprehended by police. Job done, for now.

Now, question the way that 'news' was delivered and just how much bias was attached in the article. Tabloidesque horse crap was the side dish. Hardly surprising when you consider the geopolitical interests at play in Israeli media machinery.

What surprises me is that Irish people are so easily led. It's more than just naivety. It's stupidity at work, accepting the crap that's being put in front of you by such an anti-muslim, pro-israeli agency.

Or maybe you're read too much of "The Guardian" Which is just as biased and hellbent on omitting crucial facts to suit their own agenda. How is this Anti-Muslim ? It's highlighting abuses towards homosexuals throughout the world.Love how people try to ignore Muslim abuses against minorities and anybody who speaks out against them is labeled "Anti Islamic" or "Racist"

Also, It's funny how I have found threads in which you seem to bash Christianity, but haven't found anything criticising Islam. Yet you're here defending Islam.The moral hypocrisy of some liberals is quite facetious and worrying.

crazygeryy

for a second i thought the thread title was transgender woman stolen in germany.

LeBash

BreadnBuddha wrote: »

Sensationalist propaganda, from a heavily biased source.

LGBT people suffer physical attacks carried out with brutal disregard for the victims all the time, none of which are likely to have any 'reportage' in this type of 'news' outlet.

What's scary is that people in Ireland and other western countries seem so willing to latch onto these media channels now, completely ignorant to the fact that they're drinking from a poisoned chalice.

Sure LGBT get attacked, as do straight men and women, black and white. They are all equally horrible crimes. D1ckheads don't need much of a reason to attack people.

Fleawuss

thattequilagirl wrote: »

Of course they should. All crimes of this nature should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Here's the thing: Muslims make up about 1/6th of the population of the world - are we going to start a new thread every time one of them commits a crime.

I guarantee you somewhere in the world right now an Irish guy is being tried for assault or rape. Should we all be tarred with that brush?

It's up to an individual with enough posts to start a thread, it's up to others to decide if they want to contribute, it's up to the mods to decide if it stays open. I'll tell you why I think this thread is important : it points to a real and emerging problem with mass Muslim migration. It points to a desire to censor, suppress or dismiss events like this by certain politically inspired points of view just as it points to a desire to use it for political point scoring by others.

So to your comparison of tarring with the same brush. The Muslim religion has a completely different view of women and gays to Ireland and most of Western Europe. That needs to be faced. Look at the incident itself: they pick up pebbles / gravel / stones : just as their religion commands them to do for adulterers, just as they do on haj when they throw them at the" devil". People are conditioned by their upbringing and sadly religion has been a big conditioner of these young men.

suicide_circus

Transgendered vs Refugees II: The SJW Dilemma.

Coming to a theatre near you January 18.

Rated PG-13.

MRnotlob606

suicide_circus wrote: »

Transgendered vs Refugees II: The SJW Dilemma.

Coming to a theatre near you January 18.

Rated PG-13.

We love one group but we also love the ones who are committing the crimes