The Tipperary GAA (Club and Intercounty) Thread

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Two goals in two games for O'Meara - it was never in Cork's interest to reveal their hand today - doubly so for them.

It's never in anyone's interest to reveal their full hand in the league ...

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Tipperary 2-27 Cork 2-15 (FT) - Tipperary ease into the league quarter final where they will play Clare in Ennis or Thurles next Sunday

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Barry injured again

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This is how I'd start for championship at the moment - next few games might change that...

Darren Gleeson
Barrett Barry Cahill
P Maher R Maher Heffernan
Bergin Brendan Maher
Bubbles Breen Bonnar
John McGrath Callanan O'Meara

Forde and Noel McGrath are options for wing or corner forwards.

You could also have a team with Breen at midfield and have O'Meara in centerforward - drop Bergin - and put Forde or Noelie in the corner.

I just feel Breen has the power and drive to lead from center forward - agressive in every aspect of his play but O'Meara has a the creativity and natural ability in his passing that makes him a very good center forward also.

Clonmel1000

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Hamill, McCormack, Kenny. Hamill and McCormack have started 4 of the 5 games

Dan McCormack played well when he came in today. QF next Sunday? Or are we staring down the barrel of relegation still?

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evolving tipperary wrote: »

2 changes at HT - Callanan and McCormack replace A.Ryan & Morris

I was watching Morris in the first half and i thought he done alright. Got stuck in. Put the paw up for one or two balls. Laid off a nice pass at one stage. While Callanan needs game time i accept, id have like to have seen Kiwi get more game time throughout the league. Couldnt fault his attitude. If Dan McCormack deserves 4.5 games then Ado Ryan and Kiwi deserved at least one full one at least.

Must say though it is great to see Seamie back. Similar to your Diarmuid Connollys, your Aidan o'sheas, or your Michael Murphys in the football, Seamie has the ability to get the crowd on their feet.

Very very impressed with John Mcgrath and Mikey Breen throughout this league too and Niall O'meara is coming along nicely with every game.

Hopefully Barry is back next week and that his injury isn't too bad. The thoughts of O'Donnell up against Hamill is scary.

Clonmel1000

evolving tipperary wrote: »

This is how I'd start for championship at the moment - next few games might change that...

Darren Gleeson
Barrett Barry Cahill
P Maher R Maher Heffernan
Bergin Brendan Maher
Bubbles Breen Bonnar
John McGrath Callanan O'Meara

Forde and Noel McGrath are options for wing or corner forwards.

You could also have a team with Breen at midfield and have O'Meara in centerforward - drop Bergin - and put Forde or Noelie in the corner.

I just feel Breen has the power and drive to lead from center forward - agressive in every aspect of his play but O'Meara has a the creativity and natural ability in his passing that makes him a very good center forward also.

Breen has been excellent all league in centerfield and now you want to move him out of there?

Clonmel1000

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Dan McCormack played well when he came in today. QF next Sunday? Or are we staring down the barrel of relegation still?

Dan McCormack had loads of room today. Young Cody beat him up a stick in Nowlan, he was anonymous v Waterford and didnt do a whole lot against Dublin or Galway either. Might be nice to see him win dirty ball and stick it over the bar himself for a change and prove he is good enough to be a county player like you so claim him to be.

Well clearly we made the quarter today so what the hell exactly is your point? Just like two year ago we got the bit of fortune and thankfully we are safe for another year at least. If Bubbles didnt nail that equaliser last week we were in a relegation play off as it stands. Thankfully we're not but id like to think we have more to offer then last gasp escape jobs. Last year we done well in the league because we brought in lads who were up to scratch like John Mcgrath and Breen.


And it was also refreshing to see the full back could be first to every ball today and beat his man, and more importantly not wander out into no mans land continously

Clonmel1000

Clonmel1000 wrote: »

Breen has been excellent all league in centerfield and now you want to move him out of there?

tbh id be inclined to keep him midfield myself. He has it all, pace, power, determination and skill. Him and Brendan work very well in the middle

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evolving tipperary wrote: »

Two goals in two games for Cork - it was never in Cork's interest to reveal their hand today - doubly so for them.

It's never in anyone's interest to reveal their full hand in the league ...

Yeah i think the Cork we will meet in May will provide a stiffer test. That said though, their defence must give them serious cause for concern. They are a shambles at the back. They've been peeled like spuds all throughout the league

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Clonmel1000 wrote: »

evolving tipperary wrote: »

This is how I'd start for championship at the moment - next few games might change that...

Darren Gleeson
Barrett Barry Cahill
P Maher R Maher Heffernan
Bergin Brendan Maher
Bubbles Breen Bonnar
John McGrath Callanan O'Meara

Forde and Noel McGrath are options for wing or corner forwards.

You could also have a team with Breen at midfield and have O'Meara in centerforward - drop Bergin - and put Forde or Noelie in the corner.

I just feel Breen has the power and drive to lead from center forward - agressive in every aspect of his play but O'Meara has a the creativity and natural ability in his passing that makes him a very good center forward also.

Breen has been excellent all league in centerfield and now you want to move him out of there?

Yes, indeed, I do. I don't know if you've noticed but we've had an issue at center forward for a long time (half forward line in particular) in terms of winning ball and driving through with power. Breen has that ability to rectify that. Playing Cork in a joke game won't highlight the deficiencies in the half forward line that have been glaring against KK and Limerick in championship for numerous years... - so, as I outlined above that's the reason why I'd like him played at centre-forward - where he has played a lot for Ballina...

We couldn't keep the ball in the forwards against Galway last week - we needed a big presence to hold to the ball and get running at them

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it would be great if we could play cork every week, we could have won by thirty points such was our dominance, we must have missed about 10 sitters in the first 20 minutes alone.
I think our chances of glory this year are not bound by the new blood that is coming through, I think they will do fine, but any chance of All Ireland success will rely on Callinan, B Maher, P Maher, Bonner, Noel McGrath providing the leadership.

Do you think we might get a double header in the stadium next weekend?

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Does anyone know what the extent of Cahill's injury is? Barry looks to be out - looked to be a bad dead leg.
Heffernan looked concussed...

buggy beag

Thought breen was a monster today albeit against poor opposition but im also basing my point on the last few games he has been involved into.really settling into that midfield role and contributing scores as well.move him to centre forward?hard to know.would probably do a great job for us in there but i just dont think we have anyone else that can do what he does in midfield so for that reason i would't move him.think him and brendan are complimenting each other well in there and if brendan cant play i think bergin in there could do a job.
John mcgrath top notch again today.looks a great find.was really impressed with him early doors in the league last year so was disappointed when he didn't feature later in the year.can't remember did he get injured or was he dropped but he is flying this year and has been leading our line well in the absence of seamie.wins his own ball,lovely side steps and scores all types of points.great little hurler.
Hard to know who our forward line will be callanan,j mcgrath,bubbles and o meara as of today are definite starters.that leaves 2 from,more than likely,noel bonnar or forde.
God gleeson gets so flat footed for fairly easy chances.dont think he has been playing well this year.not bad but not great either.should another goalie have got 1 or 2 games?
He never gets mentioned much but thought conor o brien had a great game.always reliable.good hard little worker who does the basics to a high standard.nothing flashy just solid and gets the job done.

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April 2/3

A) Kilkenny v Offaly (Toss for Venue*)
Waterford v Wexford (Wexford Venue*)
C) Dublin v Limerick (Toss for Venue*)
D) Tipperary v Clare (Toss for Venue*)

Semi Finals on April 17

A v D
B v C

Final on May 5

Division 1A Relegation Play-Off

April 2/3

Galway v Cork (Toss for Venue*)

buggy beag

evolving tipperary wrote:

Does anyone know what the extent of Cahill's injury is? Barry looks to be out - looked to be a bad dead leg. Heffernan looked concussed...

Ya think heffernan has been playing well since he came in.looks to be learning quickly and seems to gel well with the 2 brothers.could have a future at this level but like a couple of more we might not get to see the best of him until next year but he is tipping along nicely.
Hope barry gets back quickly.hamill might be a future full back but he is definitely not ready this year.think the games he has played this year have been fantastic for his development.he now knows whats involved in that position and hopefully he learns and really puts pressure on barry for the number 3 spot.
The way it has been for years now.great competition for back spots not so much for the forwards.

buggy beag

evolving tipperary wrote:

Final on May 5

May 5th is a thursday?

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May 5th is a thursday?


True - I just got the dates from gaa.ie so must be an error...

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Clare will be a good test for us and then the kitties if we win that. would be good to beat KK if we meet them, good for morale.

buggy beag

buggy beag wrote: »

Thought breen was a monster today albeit against poor opposition but im also basing my point on the last few games he has been involved into.really settling into that midfield role and contributing scores as well.move him to centre forward?hard to know.would probably do a great job for us in there but i just dont think we have anyone else that can do what he does in midfield so for that reason i would't move him.think him and brendan are complimenting each other well in there and if brendan cant play i think bergin in there could do a job.
John mcgrath top notch again today.looks a great find.was really impressed with him early doors in the league last year so was disappointed when he didn't feature later in the year.can't remember did he get injured or was he dropped but he is flying this year and has been leading our line well in the absence of seamie.wins his own ball,lovely side steps and scores all types of points.great little hurler.
Hard to know who our forward line will be callanan,j mcgrath,bubbles and o meara as of today are definite starters.that leaves 2 from,more than likely,noel bonnar or forde.
God gleeson gets so flat footed for fairly easy chances.dont think he has been playing well this year.not bad but not great either.should another goalie have got 1 or 2 games?
He never gets mentioned much but thought conor o brien had a great game.always reliable.good hard little worker who does the basics to a high standard.nothing flashy just solid and gets the job done.

Great post. yep agreed on Gleeson completely. Fact is the man cant stretch to save. Cummins was years older than him but was far more agile. Agree with you re Foxy o'brien too. A tenacious underrated squad player and a brilliant servant to Tipp hurling. Done little wrong today and tbh done little wrong v Galway last year in the All ireland semi.


Bubbles needs a bit more game time. he is looking a bit rusty and Noel who was flying this time last year is probably pacing himself for the championship. Uncharacteristically for him he had a few wides today.

bit of shadow boxing today but overall we achieved our first objective which is to secure Div 1A hurling next season. Every game is a bonus now but hopefully we can make the league final at least. The more competitive games between this and championship the better.

PlayByTheRules

Yara Plain Gin wrote: »

Clare will be a good test for us and then the kitties if we win that. would be good to beat KK if we meet them, good for morale.

Such a final - if it were to happen - would be played in Nowlan Park though which would make the task all the harder for Tipperary. Been a while since ye've won anything down there.

Agreed on Conor O'Brien, he would start on every county team with the exception of Kilkenny. Great reader of the game too.

PlayByTheRules

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

Such a final - if it were to happen - would be played in Nowlan Park though which would make the task all the harder for Tipperary. Been a while since ye've won anything down there.

Agreed on Conor O'Brien, he would start on every county team with the exception of Kilkenny. Great reader of the game too.

Semi you mean. Sure fúck it we came minutes from beating them there recently and while we havent won down there since 2008, i feel with a bit of luck on our side it could swing the other way. Its a door we'll just have to keep knocking on.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

PlayByTheRules wrote: »

Such a final - if it were to happen - would be played in Nowlan Park though which would make the task all the harder for Tipperary. Been a while since ye've won anything down there.

Agreed on Conor O'Brien, he would start on every county team with the exception of Kilkenny. Great reader of the game too.

the harder the better.
if you can beat kk you can beat anyone.
Tipp could do with winning the league like waterford did last year, I make us fourth favourites for the all ireland and so any silverware this year would be a boost.

buggy beag

Clare with home advantage

Dublin,kilkenny,wexford and galway also with home advantage

buggy beag

buggy beag wrote: »

Clare with home advantage

Dublin,kilkenny,wexford and galway also with home advantage

The harder the better. A good stiff test against a team who has found their confidence. Just what we need. Ennis is a very very scary atmosphere from the stand :pac:

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The harder the better. A good stiff test against a team who has found their confidence. Just what we need. Ennis is a very very scary atmosphere from the stand :pac:

all tipp people going to ennis should bring sticks, things can get nasty up there.:)

Mantis Toboggan

Yara Plain Gin wrote: »

all tipp people going to ennis should bring sticks, things can get nasty up there.:)

True, I nearly got savaged at the under 21 final that we won a few years ago

buggy beag

Deleted User wrote:

The harder the better. A good stiff test against a team who has found their confidence. Just what we need. Ennis is a very very scary atmosphere from the stand

Into the lions den is right.not many teams get a result in cusack.

buggy beag

Tyson Fury wrote:

True, I nearly got savaged at the under 21 final that we won a few years ago

Wasn't at it but was that the one where pa bourke got a late free or 65?

Mantis Toboggan

buggy beag wrote: »

Wasn't at it but was that the one where pa bourke got a late free or 65?

Was indeed, I was surrounded at the end, there was lads frothing at the mouth. Tipp team got booed off the field after lifting the cup, all very embarrassing for clare.

GerB40

There was always a venom in the Tipp/Clare rivalry that's seldom seen in hurling these days. I might be biased but I think that Clare have more of a problem with Tipp than the other way around..

Mantis Toboggan

GerB40 wrote: »

There was always a venom in the Tipp/Clare rivalry that's seldom seen in hurling these days. I might be biased but I think that Clare have more of a problem with Tipp than the other way around..

I agree, think it's the same with Limerick also, think we look more to Cork kilkenny imo.

buggy beag

Tyson Fury wrote:

I agree, think it's the same with Limerick also, think we look more to Cork kilkenny imo.

Ya we will always have a thing with alot of other counties because we border alot of them and success will always bring the haters and thats why we look at cork and kk because they have won more than us.
I find it gas that lads can have such hatred for galway and offaly more so than cork or kk but its where you live within the county that determines your true enemy.

Mr. Guappa

buggy beag wrote: »

Wasn't at it but was that the one where pa bourke got a late free or 65?

It was all square deep in stoppage time, and a Clare puck out led to a tap over free being awarded to them, which would have won the game. However, the umpire flagged the Clare goalie for stepping outside the square on the puck out, so the ref instead awarded Tipp the 65 for the goalies infringement. Pa duly slotted the 65 and Tipp won by a point. Ref needed a Garda escort and any Tipp fans in Ennis that night fled fairly lively.

Mantis Toboggan

Mr. Guappa wrote: »

It was all square deep in stoppage time, and a Clare puck out led to a tap over free being awarded to them, which would have won the game. However, the umpire flagged the Clare goalie for stepping outside the square on the puck out, so the ref instead awarded Tipp the 65 for the goalies infringement. Pa duly slotted the 65 and Tipp won by a point. Ref needed a Garda escort and any Tipp fans in Ennis that night fled fairly lively.

Clare showed their true colours that night, horrible crowd, we cannot beat them by enough Sunday week.

Yara Plain Gin

Yara Plain Gin wrote: »

all tipp people going to ennis should bring sticks, things can get nasty up there.:)

i would suggest also the padded gear used by cops to train police alsatians

Tyson Fury

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Clare showed their true colours that night, horrible crowd, we cannot beat them by enough Sunday week.

I dont think i've ever seen a crowd as angry. Kilkenny have their moments but they are more smug in their superiority then anything else although tbf we sowed the shít into them after 1 league win last march. One example in clare last year they gave out about every refereeing decision and then announcer calls out the attendance. A response comes from the crowd "Go way ya liar"

The angriest crowd ive seen outside of Millwall and Galatasaray

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[font=Georgia, serif]Tipperary chairman backs decision to make minors choose a code[/font]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/tipperary-chairman-backs-decision-to-make-minors-choose-a-code-388977.html

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Kelly recalls how the Tipperary dressing room was a place of desolation after the 2009 All-Ireland final defeat to Kilkenny. I ve a strong memory of walking into the dressing room and seeing (then coach/selector) Eamon O Shea crying in the physio s room. Going back to the team hotel, you d meet your family and you feel you ve let them down.

[font=PT Sans, sans-serif]http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/eoin-kelly-babs-keating-lost-the-dressing-room-388790.html[/font]

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kelly really let babs have it in that article, even bringing up redser incident. we all know what happened with redser and there was other players involved too, I was raging at the time that all the players involved were not booted out.
the redser incident shows everything that is wrong with modern gaa teams.
Managers should lead and players follow not the other way around and if the manager is not up to it he will be replaced by the CB not the players.
whatever you thought of babs second turn as tipp manager, the truth of the matter is it did not work mainly because the players did not want it to.

Xenophile

evolving tipperary wrote: »

Kelly recalls how the Tipperary dressing room was a place of desolation after the 2009 All-Ireland final defeat to Kilkenny. I ve a strong memory of walking into the dressing room and seeing (then coach/selector) Eamon O Shea crying in the physio s room. Going back to the team hotel, you d meet your family and you feel you ve let them down.

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/eoin-kelly-babs-keating-lost-the-dressing-room-388790.html

Xenophile

evolving tipperary wrote: »

[font=Georgia, serif]Tipperary chairman backs decision to make minors choose a code[/font]

http://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/hurling/tipperary-chairman-backs-decision-to-make-minors-choose-a-code-388977.html

This is just ridiculous, especially the chairman of the county board getting involved, goes without saying the people involved come from clubs that have little or no interest in football.

You do not hear the football people telling players what to do, the fact of the matter is if they did they would be steam rolled by the county board.

To me it smacks of the old GAA ban. Let the people involved come out and tell us what they are going to do about players who play soccer or rugby from time to time with their local village or town.

robbiezero

Xenophile wrote: »

This is just ridiculous, especially the chairman of the county board getting involved, goes without saying the people involved come from clubs that have little or no interest in football.

You do not hear the football people telling players what to do, the fact of the matter is if they did they would be steam rolled by the county board.

To me it smacks of the old GAA ban. Let the people involved come out and tell us what they are going to do about players who play soccer or rugby from time to time with their local village or town.

I can't see why the football manager would not be entitled to do the same. It's nothing like the ban.
Tipperary supporters expect their minor hurling team to be competitive at the very top level and to win All-Irelands. It's going to be hard to compete with the other top teams if you have a third or more of your team only able to train half as much as their counterparts in Kilkenny etc particularly in hurling.

Mantis Toboggan

robbiezero wrote: »

I can't see why the football manager would not be entitled to do the same. It's nothing like the ban.
Tipperary supporters expect their minor hurling team to be competitive at the very top level and to win All-Irelands. It's going to be hard to compete with the other top teams if you have a third or more of your team only able to train half as much as their counterparts in Kilkenny etc particularly in hurling.

Exactly, if we want to compete with kilkenny then we need to match them on resources and effort.

Rasputin11

Is anyone else annoyed by the non opening of the blue gate on the Tipp Institute side of Semple Stadium? It's never open on match days and it would prevent the bottleneck that occurs at the main entrance on the New Stand side. I can't see any logical reason not to open it.

Mantis Toboggan

Rasputin11 wrote: »

Is anyone else annoyed by the non opening of the blue gate on the Tipp Institute side of Semple Stadium? It's never open on match days and it would prevent the bottleneck that occurs at the main entrance on the New Stand side. I can't see any logical reason not to open it.

Surely its open when there's a decent crowd inside?

Rasputin11

Tyson Fury wrote: »

Surely its open when there's a decent crowd inside?

It wasn't open for any of the league games, I actually can't remember the last time I walked out that gate. It's only a small issue but a bit of common sense would fix the problem.

Yara Plain Gin

Yara Plain Gin wrote: »

kelly really let babs have it in that article, even bringing up redser incident. we all know what happened with redser and there was other players involved too, I was raging at the time that all the players involved were not booted out.
the redser incident shows everything that is wrong with modern gaa teams.
Managers should lead and players follow not the other way around and if the manager is not up to it he will be replaced by the CB not the players.
whatever you thought of babs second turn as tipp manager, the truth of the matter is it did not work mainly because the players did not want it to.

Babs done some crazy stuff in charge though namely the auld ones on the team bus, he constantly thrown his own players under the proverbial bus in the media, playing Brendan Cummins wing back in training, last minute omissions. Babs made his own position untenable although tbf there was a huge generation divide between the years of English and Fox in 89 and Eoin and Lar in the 00s.

1eg0a3xv7b82of

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Babs done some crazy stuff in charge though namely the auld ones on the team bus, he constantly thrown his own players under the proverbial bus in the media, playing Brendan Cummins wing back in training, last minute omissions. Babs made his own position untenable although tbf there was a huge generation divide between the years of English and Fox in 89 and Eoin and Lar in the 00s.

It all came down to babs versus certain senior players.
The stories that have come out about that time about Babs are crazy alright but certain senior players for whatever reason, were just as bad as Babs for the craziness. The whole phone call thing was bizarre.

It is a pity it went the way it did but Babs will always be a legend.