Eir rural FTTH thread

oscarBravo

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

That is not a FTTH speed.

Possibly FTTC and copper to the home.

Check your information again.

Ugh, the annoying branding of VDSL as "fibre" strikes again.

knipex

chewed wrote: »

They haven't offered me anything yet. I was onto their sales guy yesterday and he said that our area was still not updated on their system, so it still says we can't get BB.

I'm confused as well now....are you saying that Vodafone won't be able to provide a service in my area if we have FTTH?

If its the openeir FTTH network then no they wont.

If is the SIRO FTTH network then the will.

Vodafone will not resell the openeir FTTH product.

Gonzo

knipex wrote: »

If its the openeir FTTH network then no they wont.

If is the SIRO FTTH network then the will.

Vodafone will not resell the openeir FTTH product.

Vodafone are gonna lose alot of customers, several of them in my area all switching over to Eir and Eir are paying 200 euros off their vodafone contracts.

There are 18 homes on my section of road and 5 homes now have FTTH. Several installs happening today on the section of road behind my house so take up is already very good in this area.

Gonzo

long_b wrote: »

But confused. Are Vodafone offering you fiber?

has to be a mistake as FTTC is not offered in FTTH areas. Eir, Pure and Digiweb all offer me up to 1000 but Vodafone it's the usual up to 24 meg ADSL with speeds no faster than 9 at my location.

chewed

I'm so p1ssed off now with Vodafone. I was specifically told in the shop when I took out the 4G contract that I could switch over to a FTTH deal once it was rolled out in my area! So now I'm stuck with paying €60 a month for 150GB limit when all my neighbours are signing up for unlimited fibre! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHH

Gonzo

chewed wrote: »

I'm so p1ssed off now with Vodafone. I was specifically told in the shop when I took out the 4G contract that I could switch over to a FTTH deal once it was rolled out in my area! So now I'm stuck with paying €60 a month for 150GB limit when all my neighbours are signing up for unlimited fibre! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHH

ring Eir sales, tell them your situation, they may be able to pay off some of that contract and switch you over to FTTH.

It's not a great business decision for Vodafone to not resell Eir's FTTH especially over the next year when rural FTTH sales will really take off.

chewed

Gonzo wrote: »

ring Eir sales, tell them your situation, they may be able to pay off some of that contract and switch you over to FTTH.

I just had an Eir sales guy at the door and he said they could pay €200. That's no good as my opt out fee would be closer to €1100.

Gonzo

chewed wrote: »

I just had an Eir sales guy at the door and he said they could pay €200. That's no good as my opt out fee would be closer to €1100.

1100 euros to break a contract? that is insane. There must be a mistake?

knipex

chewed wrote: »

I'm so p1ssed off now with Vodafone. I was specifically told in the shop when I took out the 4G contract that I could switch over to a FTTH deal once it was rolled out in my area! So now I'm stuck with paying €60 a month for 150GB limit when all my neighbours are signing up for unlimited fibre! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHH

Oh but you can.. Once SIRO install FTTH in your area..

daraghwal

chewed wrote: »

I'm so p1ssed off now with Vodafone. I was specifically told in the shop when I took out the 4G contract that I could switch over to a FTTH deal once it was rolled out in my area! So now I'm stuck with paying €60 a month for 150GB limit when all my neighbours are signing up for unlimited fibre! ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHH

I would be going back to the shop and demanding they cancel the contract. See what they will do for you. It's worth a try especially when they promised the FTTH falsely. If there's no plans for SIRO in your area then if I were you I'd be straight down to the shop to see what they would do about it. What's the worst that could happen? See what they say if you refuse to pay for the service anymore. They might have a bit more sympathy for you in the shop than the people in vodafone support and they might have a way to cancel the contract for you.

chewed

Gonzo wrote: »

1100 euros to break a contract? that is insane. There must be a mistake?

it was a 24 month contract. €60 per month. That was according to their chat help guy, but I'll need to look into it. Seems a lot alright.

knipex

daraghwal wrote: »

I would be going back to the shop and demanding they cancel the contract. See what they will do for you. It's worth a try especially when they promised the FTTH falsely. If there's no plans for SIRO in your area then if I were you I'd be straight down to the shop to see what they would do about it. What's the worst that could happen? See what they say if you refuse to pay for the service anymore. They might have a bit more sympathy for you in the shop than the people in vodafone support and they might have a way to cancel the contract for you.

From experience once it goes beyond 14 days there is nothing the store can do.

banjopeter

chewed wrote: »

it was a 24 month contract. €60 per month. That was according to their chat help guy, but I'll need to look into it. Seems a lot alright.

I would strongly advise never to sign a 24 month contract - go for 12 months, or 18 if you really have to.

greenhorn22

If I am in the blue area, will FTTH be available or are they doing the light blue areas first?. I already have FTTC
tks

Gonzo

chewed wrote: »

it was a 24 month contract. €60 per month. That was according to their chat help guy, but I'll need to look into it. Seems a lot alright.

Imagine charge 100 euros to break a contract, doesn't seem so bad compared to Vodafone. How many months more are you left on the contract? I dunno which is worse, paying that 1100 back or waiting nearly 2 more years while FTTH is already readily available to you.

chewed

Gonzo wrote: »

Imagine charge 100 euros to break a contract, doesn't seem so bad compared to Vodafone. How many months more are you left on the contract? I dunno which is worse, paying that 1100 back or waiting nearly 2 more years while FTTH is already readily available to you.

I know! it's a tough one. I really do feel duped into that contract, especially when I specifically mentioned eFibre being rolled out in my area. The guy in the shop just said it would be no problem to move my account over. He never mentioned Siro to me. If I'd known at the time I would not have taken out this contract. My speeds are actually OK, but having the 150GB limit is the killer!
I have about 19 months left on it.

PAKNET

chewed wrote: »

I know! it's a tough one. I really do feel duped into that contract, especially when I specifically mentioned eFibre being rolled out in my area. The guy in the shop just said it would be no problem to move my account over. He never mentioned Siro to me. If I'd known at the time I would not have taken out this contract. My speeds are actually OK, but having the 150GB limit is the killer!
I have about 19 months left on it.

The problem is eFibre/eir Fibre is NOT exclusively a fibre to the home product, eFibre is fibre to the cabinet - which is delivered over copper up to 100Mbps.

Vodafone resell the "eir Fibre" product.

They've begun branding Fibre to the Home as eFibre/eirFibre Extreme (or LightSpeed in Vodafone's case).

Vodafone DO NOT resell the eir Fibre Extreme product.

Welcome to the wonderful world of marketing departments where "fibre" is quite literally a meaningless term!

Oafley Jones

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've a question on this that I couldn't find the answer while browsing through.

A new exchange went live in our local village, unfortunately we're too far away (3km) to utilise this. There were blue lines (one from this exchange, and one from another) that run either end of our road. Problem is that both stop at least 800 metres on both sides. Are we screwed in terms of FTTH, is there any way to petition this being extended?

Gonzo

Oafley Jones wrote: »

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I've a question on this that I couldn't find the answer while browsing through.

A new exchange went live in our local village, unfortunately we're too far away (3km) to utilise this. There were blue lines (one from this exchange, and one from another) that run either end of our road. Problem is that both stop at least 800 metres on both sides. Are we screwed in terms of FTTH, is there any way to petition this being extended?

Unfortunately no, the only thing you can do is wait for NBP or hope that Imagine can fill in the gap in the meantime.

long_b

Gonzo wrote: »

Unfortunately no, the only thing you can do is wait for NBP or hope that Imagine can fill in the gap in the meantime.

The Eir rep that came to my house said if people got together a petition/declaration of interest from customers in this situation and submitted it to OpenEir via their website that they might do something for them.

Bear in mind, this was an Eir sales guy talking - they've supposedly nothing to do with OpenEir

Gonzo

long_b wrote: »

The Eir rep that came to my house said if people got together a petition/declaration of interest from customers in this situation and submitted it to OpenEir via their website that they might do something for them.

Bear in mind, this was an Eir sales guy talking - they've supposedly nothing to do with OpenEir

I'd say he is spoofing, I don't think the public can help change Open Eir's rollout plans. If it was true it could take many houses to make a case for it.

long_b

Gonzo wrote: »

I'd say he is spoofing, I don't think the public can help change Open Eir's rollout plans. If it was true it could take many houses to make a case for it.

Yeah, plus they'd be taking them out of the NBP?

Gonzo

long_b wrote: »

Yeah, plus they'd be taking them out of the NBP?

yeah it would have to be, right now I'd say whatever is there is locked tight.

but what happens if a new house is built in the middle of an FTTH rollout area, I presume they could get FTTH with the cable running past the front door?

Gonzo

Gonzo wrote: »

yeah it would have to be, right now I'd say whatever is there is locked tight.

but what happens if a new house is built in the middle of an FTTH rollout area, I presume they could get FTTH with the cable running past the front door?

As long as there is sufficient spare capacity in the multicore fibre.
A couple of houses shouldn't be an issue, but if a new estate was built then I imagine that a new fibre multicore would need to be run & a new card at the exchange.

More Music

Saw the news last week about eir's plans to take 300,000 rural homes out of the non-existant NBP.

Imagine my suprise when I saw my house went from amber to light blue on the NBP map!

So I was giving it maybe until the end of the year when they could connect me. They are currently less than 1km away - laying, joining and running along poles. Have been around the area for a few months now.

Anyway, this evening I had a visit from an eir sales rep. Telling me less than 6 weeks for a FTTH connection.

Going from 2-5Mbps for the last 10 years to a potential 1,000Mbps.

I think I'll go with the 150Mbps for now and see how it goes. I want broadband only (no eir Vision or phone).

€55 per month on 18 month contract for 150Mbps.

• Any reason not to sign up with door to door rep?
• €55 per month sound ok?
• Is he feeding me BS about 6 week connection time? It's not excactly outside my house yet, but very close. He is giving the same story to the neighbours.

ED E

Avoid the door to door like the plague. They're the least truthful of all the sales channels.

Your area may go live in 6wks. Thats any one *part* of the area being ready, and doesnt include time to get an installation appointment.


Call their sales line.

long_b

More Music wrote: »

Saw the news last week about eir's plans to take 300,000 rural homes out of the non-existant NBP.

Imagine my suprise when I saw my house went from amber to light blue on the NBP map!

So I was giving it maybe until the end of the year when they could connect me. They are currently less than 1km away - laying, joining and running along poles. Have been around the area for a few months now.

Anyway, this evening I had a visit from an eir sales rep. Telling me less than 6 weeks for a FTTH connection.

Going from 2-5Mbps for the last 10 years to a potential 1,000Mbps.

I think I'll go with the 150Mbps for now and see how it goes. I want broadband only (no eir Vision or phone).

€55 per month on 18 month contract for 150Mbps.

• Any reason not to sign up with door to door rep?
• €55 per month sound ok?
• Is he feeding me BS about 6 week connection time? It's not excactly outside my house yet, but very close. He is giving the same story to the neighbours.

What's your exchange?
55 is the standard fee for broadband only.
If you had an active phone line with Eir there's a nice all in deal for 63 I think, only for existing customers though

Pangea

long_b wrote: »

What's your exchange?
55 is the standard fee for broadband only.
If you had an active phone line with Eir there's a nice all in deal for 63 I think, only for existing customers though

What does the all in deal consist of?

long_b

Pangea wrote: »

What does the all in deal consist of?

Broadband, TV and Phone IIRC

JohnC.

Was away until after dark yesterday and when I looked out this morning, noticed a third line had appeared along the poles. Fibre? The top line in the image. Not been down the road yet to see of there's any new boxes on any of the poles.



The other lines coming off at angles are just phone lines going to houses.