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Leinster schools league/cup 2015/2016 senior&junior

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    #1172
    brokenhooker
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    OceanSixteen wrote: »
    These two both involved in the Ireland U18s A's
    Hugh O'Sullivan (Scrumhalf/Fullback)
    David Hawkshaw (Outhalf)

    Both outhalves from Leinster..


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    #1173
    OceanSixteen
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    brokenhooker wrote: »
    Both outhalves from Leinster..

    Conor Dean?


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    #1174
    brokenhooker
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    OceanSixteen wrote: »
    Conor Dean?

    yeah he is with the 5 nations squad too.


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    #1175
    D14Rugby
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    that seems to be a big mix of years for U18's 6th, 5th and 4th years. Were Blackrocks 6th years really young this year?


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    #1176
    RugbyRugby2016
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    Dunne, Doris, O'Brien and Dean are in 6th year so they would be quite young for their year, I think the majority of the other 6th years were u19s (the 2 props were Leinster u18 last season & McGowan, Mullins and killgallen u19 this year)

    Ryan, Murphy and McLaughlin are in 5th year, while turner is a 4th year


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    #1177
    The Lost Sheep
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    RugbyRugby2016 wrote: »
    Dunne, Doris, O'Brien and Dean are in 6th year so they would be quite young for their year

    Ryan, Murphy and McLaughlin are in 5th year, while turner is a 4th year
    Would they really be quite young for their year? All depends on when they turn 18

    Is there many schools competitions still to be finished. Main cups are finished but what about the rest?


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    #1178
    RugbyRugby2016
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Would they really be quite young for their year? All depends on when they turn 18

    Is there many schools competitions still to be finished. Main cups are finished but what about the rest?

    True.

    Id assume most of the cups are finished or finishing up in the next week or so.


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    #1179
    DV3
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    OceanSixteen wrote: »
    These two both involved in the Ireland U18s A's
    Hugh O'Sullivan (Scrumhalf/Fullback)
    David Hawkshaw (Outhalf)

    Not surprising considering their performances in the cup. That lad Hawkshawin particular is a seriously talented athlete, member of the Dublin hurling and football panels as well.


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    #1180
    DV3
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    OceanSixteen wrote: »
    These two both involved in the Ireland U18s A's
    Hugh O'Sullivan (Scrumhalf/Fullback)
    David Hawkshaw (Outhalf)

    Not surprising considering their performances in the cup. That lad Hawkshaw in particular is a seriously talented athlete, member of the Dublin hurling and football panels as well.


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    #1181
    brokenhooker
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Would they really be quite young for their year? All depends on when they turn 18

    Is there many schools competitions still to be finished. Main cups are finished but what about the rest?

    if they are u18 in 6th year then they are in the younger half of their year.


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    #1182
    OceanSixteen
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    Belvedere lads involved with the Ireland U19s
    Tom de Jongh (Backrow)
    Conor Jennings (Outhalf/Centre)
    James McKeown (Wing)


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    #1183
    The Lost Sheep
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    Both squads named now.
    http://gameoverballburst.com/2016/03/22/rugby-ireland-u18-squads-announced-for-5-nations-and-tri-nations-festivals/

    Great to finally see our best potential under 18s taking part in international competition. Shame numbers of club players who'll play internationally Is down, for now.


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    #1184
    brokenhooker
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    Both squads named now.
    http://gameoverballburst.com/2016/03/22/rugby-ireland-u18-squads-announced-for-5-nations-and-tri-nations-festivals/

    Great to finally see our best potential under 18s taking part in international competition. Shame numbers of club players who'll play internationally Is down, for now.

    Not the strongest side anyway, missing some very good players due to injury.

    Conor Nash, Jack Aungier & Sean O'Brien to start with anyway, all who played Ireland u18 last season.


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    #1185
    brokenhooker
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    Complete Squad breakdown:

    Prop: Eoghan Clarke (CBC Monkstown / Leinster)
    Prop: Evin Coyle (Gonzaga / Leinster)
    Prop: Cathal Duff (Clongowes / Leinster)
    Prop: Michael Milne (Roscrea / Munster)- ex Leinster youth
    Prop: Tom O'Toole (Campbell College / Ulster)
    Prop: Callum Reid (RBAI / Ulster)
    Prop: Paul Mullan (Armagh RFC / Ulster)
    Prop: Fergus O'Brien (Whitgift School / Exiles)
    Hooker: Tadgh McCarthy (Bantry RFC / Munster)
    Hooker: Diarmuid Barron (Rockwell College / Munster)
    Hooker: Ronan Kelleher (St. Michael's College / Leinster)
    Hooker: Stephen McLaughlin (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Hooker: Alexander Clarke (Ballymena Academy / Ulster)
    Lock: Charlie Ryan (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Lock: Aaron Browne (Roscrea / Leinster)
    Lock: Jack Dunne (St.Michael's College / Leinster)
    Lock: Ronan Coffey (Ard Scoil Ris / Munster)
    Lock: John McCusker (Rainey Old Boys / Ulster)
    Lock: Matthew Dalton (Belfast Royal Academy / Ulster)
    Lock: David Robb (Galwegians / Connacht)
    Backrow: Caelan Doris (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Backrow: Richard Dunne (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Backrow: Sean Masterson (Portlaoise RFC/Leinster) - will probably move to Connacht but stranger things have happened
    Backrow: JJ O'Dea (Navan / Leinster)
    Backrow: Andrew Murphy (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Backrow: Jack Daly (Castleisland / Munster)
    Backrow: Jack O'Sullivan (PBC / Munster)
    Backrow: Jonjo Fanning (Bugbrooke RFC / Exiles)
    Scrumhalf: Hugh O'Sullivan (Belvedere College / Leinster)
    Scrumhalf: Jonathon Stewart (Wallace High School / Ulster)
    Scrumhalf: Rhys O'Donnell (RBAI / Ulster)
    Scrumhalf: Alex Crocker (Henley College / Exiles)
    Outhalf: David Hawkshaw (Belvedere College / Leinster)
    Outhalf: Conor Dean (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Outhalf: Peter Sylvester (PBC / Munster)
    Outhalf: Bruce Houston (Ballymena Academy / Ulster)
    Outhalf: James Newey (Christ College Brecon / Exiles)
    Centre: Tommy O'Brien (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Centre: Liam Turner (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Centre: David McCarthy (Skibbereen RFC / Munster)
    Centre: James Hume (RBAI / Ulster)
    Cory Reid (Buccaneers & Marist College / Connacht)
    Wing: Conor Philips (Crescent College / Munster)
    Wing: Thomas O'Callaghan (CBC Monkstown / Leinster)
    Wing: Ollie Brown (Harpenden RFC / Exiles)
    Fullback: Michael Sylvester (Clongowes Wood College / Leinster)
    Fullback: Sam Dardis (Terenure / Leinster)
    Fullback: Daniel Hurley (Cresent CC / Munster)
    Fullback: Conor Wharton (Oaklands College / Exiles)


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    #1186
    The Lost Sheep
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    brokenhooker wrote: »
    Not the strongest side anyway, missing some very good players due to injury.

    Conor Nash, Jack Aungier & Sean O'Brien to start with anyway, all who played Ireland u18 last season.
    Sorry I should have clarified. Barring injury its the first time our best under 18s will be playing on the one international team.


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    #1187
    OceanSixteen
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    brokenhooker wrote: »
    Complete Squad breakdown:

    Prop: Eoghan Clarke (CBC Monkstown / Leinster)
    Prop: Evin Coyle (Gonzaga / Leinster)
    Prop: Cathal Duff (Clongowes / Leinster)
    Prop: Michael Milne (Roscrea / Munster)- ex Leinster youth
    Prop: Tom O'Toole (Campbell College / Ulster)
    Prop: Callum Reid (RBAI / Ulster)
    Prop: Paul Mullan (Armagh RFC / Ulster)
    Prop: Fergus O'Brien (Whitgift School / Exiles)
    Hooker: Tadgh McCarthy (Bantry RFC / Munster)
    Hooker: Diarmuid Barron (Rockwell College / Munster)
    Hooker: Ronan Kelleher (St. Michael's College / Leinster)
    Hooker: Stephen McLaughlin (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Hooker: Alexander Clarke (Ballymena Academy / Ulster)
    Lock: Charlie Ryan (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Lock: Aaron Browne (Roscrea / Leinster)
    Lock: Jack Dunne (St.Michael's College / Leinster)
    Lock: Ronan Coffey (Ard Scoil Ris / Munster)
    Lock: John McCusker (Rainey Old Boys / Ulster)
    Lock: Matthew Dalton (Belfast Royal Academy / Ulster)
    Lock: David Robb (Galwegians / Connacht)
    Backrow: Caelan Doris (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Backrow: Richard Dunne (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Backrow: Sean Masterson (Portlaoise RFC/Leinster) - will probably move to Connacht but stranger things have happened
    Backrow: JJ O'Dea (Navan / Leinster)
    Backrow: Andrew Murphy (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Backrow: Jack Daly (Castleisland / Munster)
    Backrow: Jack O'Sullivan (PBC / Munster)
    Backrow: Jonjo Fanning (Bugbrooke RFC / Exiles)
    Scrumhalf: Hugh O'Sullivan (Belvedere College / Leinster)
    Scrumhalf: Jonathon Stewart (Wallace High School / Ulster)
    Scrumhalf: Rhys O'Donnell (RBAI / Ulster)
    Scrumhalf: Alex Crocker (Henley College / Exiles)
    Outhalf: David Hawkshaw (Belvedere College / Leinster)
    Outhalf: Conor Dean (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Outhalf: Peter Sylvester (PBC / Munster)
    Outhalf: Bruce Houston (Ballymena Academy / Ulster)
    Outhalf: James Newey (Christ College Brecon / Exiles)
    Centre: Tommy O'Brien (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Centre: Liam Turner (Blackrock College / Leinster)
    Centre: David McCarthy (Skibbereen RFC / Munster)
    Centre: James Hume (RBAI / Ulster)
    Cory Reid (Buccaneers & Marist College / Connacht)
    Wing: Conor Philips (Crescent College / Munster)
    Wing: Thomas O'Callaghan (CBC Monkstown / Leinster)
    Wing: Ollie Brown (Harpenden RFC / Exiles)
    Fullback: Michael Sylvester (Clongowes Wood College / Leinster)
    Fullback: Sam Dardis (Terenure / Leinster)
    Fullback: Daniel Hurley (Cresent CC / Munster)
    Fullback: Conor Wharton (Oaklands College / Exiles)

    O'Sullivan is being used as a fullback AFAIK


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    #1188
    D14Rugby
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    Surely there should be more players from Belvo that that? They played by far the best rugby in the cup. Loads of Blackrock players there as per usual.... what a surprise


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    #1189
    brokenhooker
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Surely there should be more players from Belvo that that? They played by far the best rugby in the cup. Loads of Blackrock players there as per usual.... what a surprise

    A lot of Belvo players were u19.

    Not surprising Blackrock have so many, they have a lot of talented individuals.


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    #1190
    OceanSixteen
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    brokenhooker wrote: »
    A lot of Belvo players were u19.

    Not surprising Blackrock have so many, they have a lot of talented individuals.

    Questionable selection of Andrew Murphy/Richard Dunne over Max Kearney, Kearney was one of Belvo's best players


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    #1191
    brokenhooker
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    OceanSixteen wrote: »
    Questionable selection of Andrew Murphy/Richard Dunne over Max Kearney, Kearney was one of Belvo's best players

    yup, although is he injured?
    I'd have him in there, but I'm guessing his size was a problem. But other than him, there isn't many you can complain about.


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    #1192
    D14Rugby
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    brokenhooker wrote: »
    yup, although is he injured?
    I'd have him in there, but I'm guessing his size was a problem. But other than him, there isn't many you can complain about.

    Hes not injured as far as I know. I think there are quite a few you could complain about unless age grades are a problem for a lot of the Belvo players


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    #1193
    Tarf1234
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    OceanSixteen wrote: »
    Questionable selection of Andrew Murphy/Richard Dunne over Max Kearney, Kearney was one of Belvo's best players

    Completely agree.


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    #1194
    The Lost Sheep
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Surely there should be more players from Belvo that that? They played by far the best rugby in the cup. Loads of Blackrock players there as per usual.... what a surprise
    They may have had a lot of under 19s and its not just schools players that are involved. Best clubs and exiles also taken into account. Winning the leinster schools cup doesn't mean you should have most players on the irish side especially now that clubs, exiles players are on same side as schools.


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    #1195
    brokenhooker
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    They may have had a lot of under 19s and its not just schools players that are involved. Best clubs and exiles also taken into account. Winning the leinster schools cup doesn't mean you should have most players on the irish side especially now that clubs, exiles players are on same side as schools.

    well given the lack of club players i'd hardly be championing their inclusion. Terrible for the club game who is fighting with GAA for players.


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    #1196
    D14Rugby
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    The Lost Sheep wrote: »
    They may have had a lot of under 19s and its not just schools players that are involved. Best clubs and exiles also taken into account. Winning the leinster schools cup doesn't mean you should have most players on the irish side especially now that clubs, exiles players are on same side as schools.

    I know I was referring more in comparison of the number of Belvo players to Blackrock


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    #1197
    keanecm
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    Surprised Max Kearney isnt there he was arguably the best back row in the Leinster schools cup


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    #1198
    brokenhooker
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    keanecm wrote: »
    Surprised Max Kearney isnt there he was arguably the best back row in the Leinster schools cup

    and also one of the smallest, it's going to be a battle he will fight aslong as he is that size.

    should be included but not surprised he isn't.


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    #1199
    D14Rugby
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    brokenhooker wrote: »
    and also one of the smallest, it's going to be a battle he will fight aslong as he is that size.

    should be included but not surprised he isn't.

    Considering what he did against Blackrock and Roscrea his size isn't really a problem


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    #1200
    keanecm
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    is he that small?


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    #1201
    brokenhooker
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    D14Rugby wrote: »
    Considering what he did against Blackrock and Roscrea his size isn't really a problem

    Jesus I know, I agree, tell that to the coaches.

    And anyway this is another step up in terms of size etc. He may have struggled with it or he may not have, the coaches have made their decision. All Kearney can do now is try make Leinster u19.


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