Leinster schools league/cup 2015/2016 senior&junior

rugbyguru9

Discussion thread on schools league/cup junior and senior level.


Does anyone know the league tables yet?
and fixtures?

rugbyguru9

group a

Wesley
pres
cbc
st gerards
kings hospital
newbridge

group b

kilkenny
st andrews
cus
roscrea
gonzaga
castlekock

The Lost Sheep

May as well have all schools discussion in same thread like past few seasons... Edit title to provincial discussion.. mods?

Leinster should win provincial schools u18 series this season after not winning for first time in a decade last September...

rugbyguru9

any predictions to what the tables will look like by the end

FrannoFan

rugbyguru9 wrote: »

any predictions to what the tables will look like by the end

In the juniors imagine gonzaga, newbridge, castleknock will be strong. Roscrea an unknown entity.

The Lost Sheep

15. Michael Silvester (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)
14. Thomas O'Callaghan (C.B.C. Monkstown)
13. James Hickey (St. Michael's College)
12. Tommy O'Brien (Blackrock College)
11. Ted O'Donoghue (Terenure College)
10. Harry Byrne (St. Michael's College)
9. Patrick Patterson (Blackrock College)
1. Eoghan Clarke (C.B.C. Monkstown)
2. Conor Gleeson (Gonzaga College S.J.)
3. Evin Coyle (Gonzaga College S.J.)
4. Aaron Browne (Cistercian College, Roscrea)
5. Charles Ryan (Blackrock College)
6. Caelan Doris (Blackrock College) Captain
7. Jack Dignam (Terenure College)
8. Andrew Murphy (Blackrock College)
Replacements
16. Daniel Power (St. Gerrard's School)
17. Cathal Duff (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)
18. Carl Keogh (Castleknock College)
19. Patrick Ryan (Newbridge College)
20. William Fay (C.B.C. Monkstown)
21. Hugh O'Sullivan (Belvedere College S.J.)
22. Tim Murphy (Newbridge College)
23. Daithí Murphy (Newbridge College)

Munster U18 Schools
15. Marcus Browne (St Munchins College)
14. Paul Buckley (PBC Cork)
13. Daniel Hurley (Cresent College)
12. Pa Ryan (Ard Scoil Ris)
11. Sean French (PBC Cork)
10. Peter Sylvester (PBC Cork)
9. Aaron Rice (St Munchins College)
1. James French (Bandon Grammar)
2. Diarmuid Barron (Rockwell College)
3. Ciaran McHugh (CBC Cork)
4. Sean English (Castletroy College)
5. Ronan Coffey (Ard Scoil Ris) Captain
6. Charlie Carmody (St Munchins College)
7. Ian Brown (Ard Scoil Ris)
8. Fergus hennessy (CBC Cork)
Replacements
16. Johnny Williams (Glenstal Abbey)
17. Luke Masters (CBC Cork)
18. Mark Bromell (Castletroy College)
19. Conor O'Flynn (PBC Cork)
20. John Blake (Cresent College Comprehensive)
21. Steven Atkinson (Castletroy College)
22. Tim Murphy (CBC Cork)
23. Daithí Murphy (CBC Cork)

Connacht league starts in about 2 weeks. Think I may be doing some coaching in school in galway this year....
Leinster league a week later.

FrannoFan

Castleknock beat michaels today 31-17 I'm sure michaels were missing a couple of players with Leinster U18 while Castleknock were missing one with the same team. Not sure how many 19's michaels have.

Interesting result all the same.

Any other schools results?

The Lost Sheep

FrannoFan wrote: »

Castleknock beat michaels today 31-17 I'm sure michaels were missing a couple of players with Leinster U18 schools while Castleknock were missing one with the same team. Not sure how many 19's michaels have.

Interesting result all the same.

Any other schools results?

fyp

Interesting result but as you say both sides missing players...
Belvedere were up in Belfast today. haven't seen a result..
Gerards beat Newbridge during the week 17-15

OceanSixteen

What are your predictions for the Senior Cup?

It should be wide open in my eyes, Blackrock & Belvedere should be the favourites, while St Michaels also have a strong enough team. I would consider St Marys as the dark horses and maybe Roscrea too although Tynan is one of the only players returning from last year

ken76

Belvos to loose I reckon

FrannoFan

ken76 wrote: »

Belvos to loose I reckon

The 6th and 5th years both made jct finals, not massively represented in age grades. I'd imagine they have a number of players who made the final back.

Bridge93

Won't claim to know too much of what'll go on this year but I would've thought Blackrock picking from 3 consecutive winning junior cup teams will start the year as favourites?

FrannoFan

Whoever wins the league or makes the league final will be there or thereabouts as well. Newbridge and Roscrea you would imagine. maybe Gonzaga, gerrards, monkstown or Castleknock depending on the crop of players. more a wait and see with the league but whoever comes through it will challenge.

OceanSixteen

St Michaels host Belvo this saturday, both will be missing players but should be an interesting game

rugbyguru9

Predictions for the first senior league matches?

FrannoFan

Leinster U20's

15. Jack Power (UCD RFC)
14. Matt Byrne (Terenure College RFC)
13. Conor O'Brien (Clontarf FC)
12. James O'Brien (Newbridge College)
11. Hugo Keenan (UCD RFC)
10. Matthew Gilsenan (UCD RFC)
9. Rowan Osbourne (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)
1. James Bollard (Dublin University FC)
2. John Molony (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)
3. Adam Coyne (Naas RFC)
4. Michael Melia (Terenure College RFC)
5. James Ryan (St. Michael's College) Captain
6. Will Connors (UCD RFC)
7. David Aspil (St Mary's College RFC)
8. Max Deegan (Lansdowne FC)

Replacements

16. James Brennan (UCD RFC)
17. Vakh Abdaladze (Clontarf FC)
18. Greg McGrath (Lansdowne FC)
19. Rob Lalor ((Terenure College RFC)
20. Greg Jones (UCD RFC)
21. Nick Peters (Gonzaga College)
22. Tommy Whittle (Dublin University FC)
23. Terry Kennedy (St Mary's College RFC)

Assume the lads with schools after their name just don't have clubs yet. Couldn't be still in school and playing 20's

The Lost Sheep

FrannoFan wrote: »

Leinster U20's

15. Jack Power (UCD RFC)
14. Matt Byrne (Terenure College RFC)
13. Conor O'Brien (Clontarf FC)
12. James O'Brien (Newbridge College)
11. Hugo Keenan (UCD RFC)
10. Matthew Gilsenan (UCD RFC)
9. Rowan Osbourne (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)
1. James Bollard (Dublin University FC)
2. John Molony (Clongowes Wood College S.J.)
3. Adam Coyne (Naas RFC)
4. Michael Melia (Terenure College RFC)
5. James Ryan (St. Michael's College) Captain
6. Will Connors (UCD RFC)
7. David Aspil (St Mary's College RFC)
8. Max Deegan (Lansdowne FC)

Replacements

16. James Brennan (UCD RFC)
17. Vakh Abdaladze (Clontarf FC)
18. Greg McGrath (Lansdowne FC)
19. Rob Lalor ((Terenure College RFC)
20. Greg Jones (UCD RFC)
21. Nick Peters (Gonzaga College)
22. Tommy Whittle (Dublin University FC)
23. Terry Kennedy (St Mary's College RFC)

Assume the lads with schools after their name just don't have clubs yet. Couldn't be still in school and playing 20's

Already posted squad in 20s thread.... http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2057466490
They are out of school as the provinces have it as requirement I think, bar some cases, that guys are out of school to play 20s.
If they are out of school they will have found clubs but they just may not be listed there yet
Highly doubt guys are still looking for clubs at this stage if good enough to be playing 20s interpros

FrannoFan

Any results from around the schools?

The Lost Sheep

FrannoFan wrote: »

Any results from around the schools?

very few games considering interpros still on. Belvedere beat Michaels this morning 29-0
Connacht league starts this week. May be refereeing a few games.... will be interesting to see standard

rugbyguru9

Group A

Newbridge v Kings Hospital
ST Gerards v CBC
Wesley collage v Pres

Group B

Castleknock V Gonzaga
Roscrea v CUS
Kilkenny v Andrews

Predictions?

rugby2345

rugbyguru9 wrote: »

Group A

Newbridge v Kings Hospital
ST Gerards v CBC
Wesley collage v Pres

Group B

Castleknock V Gonzaga
Roscrea v CUS
Kilkenny v Andrews

Predictions?

Newbridge should have too much for KH
Gerard's 5th years won league at junior level and monkstown 6th years won the same the year before could be good game
Haven't a clue what pres or wesley are like this year
Castleknock
Roscrea
Kilkenny are fairly strong this year but hear good things about Andrews backline

unce09f

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/other-rugby/schools-decision-is-hard-to-fathom-31597849.html

Ireland u18 schools/clubs teams disbanded, forming two national u18 sides with both sections combined.

The Lost Sheep

unce09f wrote: »

http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/other-rugby/schools-decision-is-hard-to-fathom-31597849.html

Ireland u18 schools/clubs teams disbanded, forming two national u18 sides with both sections combined.

Despite Tonys OTT hysterical complaints I don't see how this is a bad decision.

Anyone been at any games yet? Leagues up and running in Connacht/Limerick and Leinster as well as all the friendlies...

unce09f

Blackrock JCT looking very strong again. It's early but wouldn't shock me if they won it all again.

SCT will be Rock or Roscrea with Belvo 3rd and the rest on the outside looking in.

unce09f

IRFU trying to wrest control and influence of provinces.
If it was upto the IRFU they'd do away with the provincial ties that every young player naturally has growing up.

Provincial loyalty and identity one of the most important aspects of Irish rugby.

The Lost Sheep

unce09f wrote: »

IRFU trying to wrest control and influence of provinces.
If it was upto the IRFU they'd do away with the provincial ties that every young player naturally has growing up.

Provincial loyalty and identity one of the most important aspects of Irish rugby.

:pac:....:rolleyes:
The IRFU are the direct bosses/leaders of provinces. What is implying the provincial ties are being lessened....

unce09f

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

:pac:....:rolleyes:
The IRFU are the direct bosses/leaders of provinces. What is implying the provincial ties are being lessened....

If you had any clue what was going on behind the scenes you'd know exactly what I was talking about.
Widely known Nucifora et al. dislike the provincial ties players have from a young age. Makes it difficult for them to "manage" talent coming through at each province.

unce09f

Senior league results:
Newbridge College 15, Wesley College 3;
Presentation College Bray 7, CBC Monkstown 40;
The Kings Hospital 8, St Gerards School 15;
CUS 22, Kilkenny College 51;
Gonzaga College 19, Cistercian College Roscrea 13;
St Andrews College 18, Castleknock College 6;

Junior league results:
CBC Monkstown 11, Presentation College Bray 13;
St Gerards School 27, The Kings Hospital 8;
Wesley College 0, Newbridge College 45;
Castleknock College 25, Kilkenny College 7;
CUS 0, Cistercian College Roscrea 58;
Gonzaga College 58, St Andrews College 0;

Aussie_Bloke

Any Senior schools results over the last few weeks ?. favorites ect ?

mistdub

unce09f wrote: »

If you had any clue what was going on behind the scenes you'd know exactly what I was talking about.
Widely known Nucifora et al. dislike the provincial ties players have from a young age. Makes it difficult for them to "manage" talent coming through at each province.

Bit late to this but there is merit in their argument. Players seem to switch pretty seemlessly between super rugby franchises in NZ with little provincial loyalty )(

mistdub

unce09f wrote: »

If you had any clue what was going on behind the scenes you'd know exactly what I was talking about.
Widely known Nucifora et al. dislike the provincial ties players have from a young age. Makes it difficult for them to "manage" talent coming through at each province.

Bit late to this but there is merit in their argument. Players seem to switch pretty seemlessly between super rugby franchises in NZ with little provincial loyalty (maa nonu had played for the canes, landers and blues since 2012) it allows them to get their best players playing 1st xv rugby and therefore develop quicker. Look at olding in Ulster for instance, it would be massively beneficial for Connacht and not too detrimental to ulster if he moved to Connacht and played week in week out. I imagine if we spread out our talent like this it might hurt the stronger provinces short term but long term the provinces and national side would play a higher standard of rugby and develop more depth as the balances spread of talent would open younger players to more experience and lessen the need for clubs like Connacht to sign foreign players. I completely understand the arguments against this aswell and am not sure how I would feel as a Leinster fan if for instance madigan went to Connacht, but this is just the logical argument as to why weakened provincial liyalty may be a good thing