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cosatron

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

The main scraper in the cubicle house stopped working last night so there was 2 inches of crap on the floor this morning.

Had to wash all the cows:mad:

Turned out it was only a bolt holding the ram onto the track had ripped and fell out.

Winter has arrived, alright:(

You should try one of these bad boys,
Pro's-
Low maintenance cost
Eco friendly
little to no running cost
good for keeping the gut down

Cons-
Incorrectly position, can lead to a nice jab in the nuts.

farmerjj

cosatron wrote: »

You should try one of these bad boys,
Pro's-
Low maintenance cost
Eco friendly
little to no running cost
good for keeping the gut down

Cons-
Incorrectly position, can lead to a nice jab in the nuts.

Actually I,m looking for the hand yard scrapper on wheels, anyone know who sells a good quality one? ( looked at Dairygold,s one and seems v light)

whelan2

farmerjj wrote: »

Actually I,m looking for the hand yard scrapper on wheels, anyone know who sells a good quality one? ( looked at Dairygold,s one and seems v light)

Don't buy one. They are the work of the devil. Hardship.

Signpost

farmerjj wrote: »

Actually I,m looking for the hand yard scrapper on wheels, anyone know who sells a good quality one? ( looked at Dairygold,s one and seems v light)

We've had two of them here and both were short lived. Wheel end up getting stiff and there heavy going even before that. By a nice 32" curved one like in the pic above and every bit as good and easy.

kowtow

farmerjj wrote: »

Actually I,m looking for the hand yard scrapper on wheels, anyone know who sells a good quality one? ( looked at Dairygold,s one and seems v light)

Ballinadee Engineering.

Though as whelan says people seem to love em or hate em.

Out of interest did anyone try the (honda) powered ones that look like they might be garden rotavators?

Mooooo

cosatron wrote: »

You should try one of these bad boys,
Pro's-
Low maintenance cost
Eco friendly
little to no running cost
good for keeping the gut down

Cons-
Incorrectly position, can lead to a nice jab in the nuts.

Next time the power goes or scrapers stop for a day or two ill get you over ha. Hand scraper not so good if you have to go 3 times a day in 6 passages

whelan2

Signpost wrote: »

We've had two of them here and both were short lived. Wheel end up getting stiff and there heavy going even before that. By a nice 32" curved one like in the pic above and every bit as good and easy.

Mines fecked in the ditch.

Buford T. Justice XIX

Mooooo wrote: »

Next time the power goes or scrapers stop for a day or two ill get you over ha. Hand scraper not so good if you have to go 3 times a day in 6 passages

Mine are two passages 135 foot long.

You'ld work up a sweat in no time at all:D

cosatron

Mooooo wrote: »

Next time the power goes or scrapers stop for a day or two ill get you over ha. Hand scraper not so good if you have to go 3 times a day in 6 passages

I'm all the way up in Galway. will you give me mileage on top of my wage:D

Keepgrowing

whelan2 wrote: »

Alot of lads are saying they will not be sending it in. I don't know why, you dont have to fill it all in if you dont want. Also it gives a chance to have your say. Way too inquisitive imo. 2 pages would have been plenty. Glanbia seem to love wasting paper for some reason

Whatever people think or say they should send them back anyway. My comment page was fairly full

Keepgrowing

farmerjj wrote: »

Actually I,m looking for the hand yard scrapper on wheels, anyone know who sells a good quality one? ( looked at Dairygold,s one and seems v light)

I've two of them here, you can have both if you can find them. Bastard yokes.

I often wondered what drugs I was on buying the second one:)

Timmaay

Keepgrowing wrote: »

I've two of them here, you can have both if you can find them. Bastard yokes.

I often wondered what drugs I was on buying the second one:)

Steroids and epo?

stretch film

whelan2 wrote: »

Don't buy one. They are the work of the devil. Hardship.

Way too immobile.

The quality of hand scraper/squeege (another grape, fork, sprong debate to be had there) available is shocking of late .
One tip on a kerb and they buckle .

Water John

No problem having people giving a projection, based on current information as to what they MAY produce over the next 12 months.
Blank the rest if it isn't required filling. Remember you would have to be as accurate and truthful as possible as you name is at the bottom of it.
So staying sthum might be a good idea.

Keepgrowing

Water John wrote: »

No problem having people giving a projection, based on current information as to what they MAY produce over the next 12 months.
Blank the rest if it isn't required filling. Remember you would have to be as accurate and truthful as possible as you name is at the bottom of it.
So staying sthum might be a good idea.

I'm presuming you've received the form and are basing your advice on what you've read. Most business have a 5 year plan so are well aware what they'll produce. If a farmer doesn't know, how can the farmer him/herself plan?

When you read the document you'd notice there's questions re cap ex required and land availability. This is to stop people dreaming and just writing down their aspirations as opposed to what they plan to do.

If you're maxed out with no sign of more land adjoining you, yet you dream of doubling production it makes one stop and think 'can it be done'?

Edit: to say that it's a real right time to ask these questions considering how shyte the last 12 mths were

Water John

No problem with a farmer asking those questions of himself, in fact he should.
Not sure why he needs to confess his thoughts to GII.

Signpost

Keepgrowing wrote: »

I'm presuming you've received the form and are basing your advice on what you've read. Most business have a 5 year plan so are well aware what they'll produce. If a farmer doesn't know, how can the farmer him/herself plan?

Not a Glanbia supplier, I'm with one of those poor paying crowds so perhaps I shouldnt be commenting but - why would you want to tell your supplier what your ambitions are? Is this not removing your competitive advantage? Just relay it into a different industry, why would you want to give away your competitive advantage of letting your suppliers know exactly how much you can produce, how much you can grow, what machinery / tools you can or plan to use to do this etc.

If they know exactly how much milk they will get from everyone doesn't that just mean they can give a lower price? Fair enough 'A' might stop producing because of the low price but 'B' will be doubling production so we don't need to pay as competitive a price as he will be heavily committed and won't be able to afford to stop producing, no matter how low a price we pay.

Why do Glanbia not give out a census report with the document to say over the next 5 years we want to x,y,z and to do this we envisage paying an average milx price of .cc per litre? Its all one way traffic you tell us everything but we won't tell you anything until 6 weeks after you have made all the inputs to supply us with milk? End of the day my business is to produce milk, there business is to buy & process it, why do they need to know my long term ambitions if they are not in any way contributing to this plan? Maybe the less they know the more they will realise how much they take the dairy farmer for granted?

Again, not my problem I know but I would have the same argument with Kerry or any other processor.

kowtow

Keepgrowing wrote:

When you read the document you'd notice there's questions re cap ex required and land availability. This is to stop people dreaming and just writing down their aspirations as opposed to what they plan to do.

Why not photocopy the document and fill in copies one with a maximum and one with a minimum production plan.

Put a covering note on it telling them they can select the plan they want by altering the milk price.

GrasstoMilk

2 incalf heifers bulling here this week. 1 due the 16th Feb the other on the 18th
Scanned incalf 2 months ago. Seen one of them do it once before. Could it be a false heat?

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

2 incalf heifers bulling here this week. 1 due the 16th Feb the other on the 18th
Scanned incalf 2 months ago. Seen one of them do it once before. Could it be a false heat?

If you have vet or ai man out get them to handle them and see what the story is

charolais0153

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

2 incalf heifers bulling here this week. 1 due the 16th Feb the other on the 18th
Scanned incalf 2 months ago. Seen one of them do it once before. Could it be a false heat?

Is it salmonella and you missed it maybe?

Muckit

pedigree 6 wrote: »

Rubber is a good job in the pit floor.

EXCEPT. You should plan for the dept of the rubber when building the parlour.
I.e when you're building the parlour and measuring the dept of the pit. The pit dept is measured from the waist of the milker, so your back is straight. Now if you go as an afterthought and add the dept of rubber, you're higher up and back to bending down your back when working. Giving you back problems.

The belt on your trousers should be level with the cow standing floor.:)

Put same depth of mat under the cows?

kevthegaff

Have a tractor and loader grab, as feed passage on both sides end up driving a bit on silage pushing it in. Would that account to a good bit of waste?

Fixture

Water John wrote: »

No problem with a farmer asking those questions of himself, in fact he should.
Not sure why he needs to confess his thoughts to GII.

Pretty obvious that processing capacity has to be planned for a few years in advance if milk supply growing. Re price and other issues- I am going add in an extra page - who knows maybe Mr Molloy might actually read it!

Water John

Remember, unneeded capital spend comes out of your milk cheque, nowhere else. Be a while before they fill Bellview.

GrasstoMilk

whelan2 wrote: »

If you have vet or ai man out get them to handle them and see what the story is

Testing on Monday so I'll ask him to have a look when we're reading. Have 3 all told doing that

whelan2

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

Testing on Monday so I'll ask him to have a look when we're reading. Have 3 all told doing that

If not in calf maybe blood test them

atlantic mist

Keepgrowing wrote: »

The GII survey must be very welcome to the guys constantly belly aching on here. It must be a great chance to tell them what ye think and the really great thing is it's not anonymous;)

my opinion on survey is 1. they want a justification for additional processing (cheesee factory) and belview is only at full tilt so we dont for next 5 years 2.lobby element of gii know environmental policies on there way for eu and they need to see if our farmers can afford implication while being paid a lowest eu price 3. who to put in the bold boy category (they wouldnt get much allocation to next few fixed price scheme)

milk manager gets hear everything i say on here, no good writing a letter when you can do it face to face, and to be fair he agrees with a lot but i dont pay his wage. far from anonymous a lot are publishing milk price and % pr and butterfat each month, the lads in gii know exactly who we are:)

Did you get one or will you be getting to read them? mines the one with loads of extra boxes:)

Mooooo

GrasstoMilk wrote: »

2 incalf heifers bulling here this week. 1 due the 16th Feb the other on the 18th
Scanned incalf 2 months ago. Seen one of them do it once before. Could it be a false heat?

I think something like 7% of in calf cattle can show signs of heat so may be nothing to worry about. Be no harm to check em again tho esp the one you saw before. .

jaymla627

atlantic mist wrote: »

my opinion on survey is 1. they want a justification for additional processing (cheesee factory) and belview is only at full tilt so we dont for next 5 years 2.lobby element of gii know environmental policies on there way for eu and they need to see if our farmers can afford implication while being paid a lowest eu price 3. who to put in the bold boy category (they wouldnt get much allocation to next few fixed price scheme)

milk manager gets hear everything i say on here, no good writing a letter when you can do it face to face, and to be fair he agrees with a lot but i dont pay his wage. far from anonymous a lot are publishing milk price and % pr and butterfat each month, the lads in gii know exactly who we are:)

Did you get one or will you be getting to read them? mines the one with loads of extra boxes:)

Next year will tell a lot regarding Ireland getting it's derogation renewed, if europe deny it, it will lead highly stocked guys either having to sell their entitlements and farm without the dole payment every October our pay through the nose for rented ground all this will add significant costs per litre....
It's a pretty excercise the amount of details they are looking for at the minute cause if the above comes to pass it changes everything regarding expansion and even the need for additional capacity