TB testing

RD10 · 08-09-2016 11:12PM

nealger wrote: »

Im thinking that the factory would go maybe 1100 and maybe a balance of 200 to 260 by dept. Anything above that i wont be disputing....
Just heard that neighbour had 4 more cows go down after blood tests.... hes only 5 cows left. Farmer accross road got phone call this morning telling him hes been restricted until a herd test is carried out.... its full lock down here ðŸ™ŠðŸ™ˆðŸ™‰

The fact shes only just gone incalf may bring it down from that. Hard to know.
Jesus thats hard on your neighbour, big farm is it?
When are the blood tests taken?

Sheep breeder · 08-09-2016 11:26PM

rd 10 your cow will be classifed as empty as she will not show incalf at the pm in the factory as she is only served, how long has she calved and the valuer will have this on the sheet.

RD10 · 08-09-2016 11:43PM

Sheep breeder wrote: »

rd 10 your cow will be classifed as empty as she will not show incalf at the pm in the factory as she is only served, how long has she calved and the valuer will have this on the sheet.

You've mixed me up with nealger there. His cow is only just served. Mine is 3 months incalf.

RedPeppers · 11-09-2016 11:43AM

Maybe someone can clear this one up for me. A Bullock I sold in march to a relation has gone inconclusive. He's getting him killed tomorrow if lesions show up am I locked up then too or what's the story? Really don't need this.

Buford T. Justice XIX · 11-09-2016 11:49AM

RedPeppers wrote: »

Maybe someone can clear this one up for me. A Bullock I sold in march to a relation has gone inconclusive. He's getting him killed tomorrow if lesions show up am I locked up then too or what's the story? Really don't need this.

I doubt you'll be locked up but I expect you will have a herd test in the near future as the animal originated from your herd.

RedPeppers · 11-09-2016 11:52AM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I doubt you'll be locked up but I expect you will have a herd test in the near future as the animal originated from your herd.

Annual one is due early decrmber. I've 25 cattle to go in next couple of weeks, will be screwed if I couldn't sell them. Will have no place for them and could do with the cash by then

Parishlad · 11-09-2016 11:57AM

RedPeppers wrote: »

Annual one is due early decrmber. I've 25 cattle to go in next couple of weeks, will be screwed if I couldn't sell them. Will have no place for them and could do with the cash by then

I'd be getting them off to the mart/factory as soon as possible if I were you. You are likely to get called for a test soon.

Mooooo · 11-09-2016 11:58AM

RedPeppers wrote: »

Maybe someone can clear this one up for me. A Bullock I sold in march to a relation has gone inconclusive. He's getting him killed tomorrow if lesions show up am I locked up then too or what's the story? Really don't need this.

If lesions don't show up they'll still culture glands to test for it but those results could take 6 to 8 weeks. There is a good possibility he will be grand as well. I doubt you'd be restricted but may have to do a herd test possibly if he goes down but I don't think so if you are not bounding him but could be wrong on that.

RedPeppers · 11-09-2016 01:22PM

Parishlad wrote: »

I'd be getting them off to the mart/factory as soon as possible if I were you. You are likely to get called for a test soon.

My thoughts now exactly. All around 400kg so will be mart job. I had hoped to wait until later as thought demand would be greater closer to housing.

Water John · 11-09-2016 01:53PM

If its what you want, land them into a mart this week.
The alt really is to wait until after your herd test.
Since you want to sell before winter anyway, I think you can work that one out.
Best of luck.

Farrell · 11-09-2016 01:54PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

I doubt you'll be locked up but I expect you will have a herd test in the near future as the animal originated from your herd.

Happened me in 2011, you'll only have a test

RedPeppers · 11-09-2016 02:19PM

Farrell wrote: »

Happened me in 2011, you'll only have a test

How soon after did you have the test? Could you sell away in lead up to the test?

patsy_mccabe · 11-09-2016 02:55PM

RedPeppers wrote: »

Maybe someone can clear this one up for me. A Bullock I sold in march to a relation has gone inconclusive. He's getting him killed tomorrow if lesions show up am I locked up then too or what's the story? Really don't need this.

Lesions will only show up in very advanced cases. Is your relation locked up?

RedPeppers · 11-09-2016 03:10PM

patsy_mccabe wrote: »

Lesions will only show up in very advanced cases. Is your relation locked up?

No he buys about 60 bullocks every spring and finishes them of grass. This bullock would be around 29 months old last clear test on our farm dec 15

Farrell · 12-09-2016 12:06AM

RedPeppers wrote: »

How soon after did you have the test? Could you sell away in lead up to the test?

Sold in Jan, tested in April.
Probably notified in March.
Think was locked from being notified to clear test.
Cow was blooded for sale too

Rushy Fields · 12-09-2016 05:01PM

RD10 wrote: »

The fact shes only just gone incalf may bring it down from that. Hard to know.
Jesus thats hard on your neighbour, big farm is it?
When are the blood tests taken?

Just got valuation......... 1400 if empty........ 1600 if prooven in calf. Happy enough.. Hope thats it and i dont have to go through this again!

Rushy Fields · 12-09-2016 09:59PM

Sheep breeder wrote:

Get somebody to slaughter them not shoot at them, clean them completely and don't worry about poor bambi,the best deer is one that has had a lead injection.

Rushy Fields wrote:

My OH seen 5 deer in it the other night driving out the avenue.......b******s!! Will investigate further....... it looks like from the road that they have been lying in it over the last few days/nights

Seen between 11 and 15 deer tonight in my wild bird cover... they are cheeky.... they just stuck their heads up and stared at me..... could do with setting dog after them or getting someone to let a shot off!!ðŸ˜ˆ

ganmo · 13-09-2016 12:50PM

Rushy Fields wrote: »

Seen between 11 and 15 deer tonight in my wild bird cover... they are cheeky.... they just stuck their heads up and stared at me..... could do with setting dog after them or getting someone to let a shot off!!ðŸ˜ˆ

get someone to hunt them, I'm sure you'd find someone local enough over in the hunting forum

RD10 · 17-09-2016 05:06PM

Cow got taken away to factory yesterday. Forgot to ask but does anyone have an idea how soon they'll know whether lesions have shown up or not?
Am i right in thinking if lesions dont show up, lab results still won't be known for another 6-8weeks?

Mooooo · 17-09-2016 05:09PM

RD10 wrote: »

Cow got taken away to factory yesterday. Forgot to ask but does anyone have an idea how soon they'll know whether lesions have shown up or not?
Am i right in thinking if lesions dont show up, lab results still won't be known for another 6-8weeks?

Was it a reactor taken away? Your vet will be told I think, ours tend to know anyway unless he finds out himself. If it was a reactor there will be no need to have labs done I think. Makes no odds to you in terms of being restricted anyway. If it was anot inconclusive it would alright and the labs would take that length

blue5000 · 17-09-2016 05:34PM

RD10 wrote: »

Cow got taken away to factory yesterday. Forgot to ask but does anyone have an idea how soon they'll know whether lesions have shown up or not?
Am i right in thinking if lesions dont show up, lab results still won't be known for another 6-8weeks?

Yes.

I think if you ring the DVO about a week after slaughter they'll tell you anything you need to know about the PM, it takes a few working days to get the report from the factory. Try talk to the dept vet in charge of your case, they are helpful.
If there was no visible lesions the culture could as Mooo says take 6-8 weeks. Whether there was lesions or not, really makes no difference to you.

Don't forget your 60 days to the next test ticks off from today, you can organize it with your vet in about 30 days. Have you applied for the hardship grant?

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-09-2016 06:51PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Yes.

I think if you ring the DVO about a week after slaughter they'll tell you anything you need to know about the PM, it takes a few working days to get the report from the factory. Try talk to the dept vet in charge of your case, they are helpful.
If there was no visible lesions the culture could as Mooo says take 6-8 weeks. Whether there was lesions or not, really makes no difference to you.

Don't forget your 60 days to the next test ticks off from today, you can organize it with your vet in about 30 days. Have you applied for the hardship grant?

And iirc, the next test will be a Dept test?

blue5000 · 17-09-2016 07:11PM

Buford T. Justice V wrote: »

And iirc, the next test will be a Dept test?

Possibly, or the following test. It might depend on how busy they are. But they'll pay if RD10's vet does it.

freedominacup · 17-09-2016 08:34PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Possibly, or the following test. It might depend on how busy they are. But they'll pay if RD10's vet does it.

You pay when you go clear I think.

J.O. Farmer · 17-09-2016 08:38PM

blue5000 wrote: »

Possibly, or the following test. It might depend on how busy they are. But they'll pay if RD10's vet does it.

I thought your vet did the test and you pay for one clear test per year unless you request additional private tests.
Do department vets do retests after reactors. About 10 years since we were down but our vet did all the testing.

Mooooo · 17-09-2016 08:38PM

You pay for one test during the year, same as annual test. Anything else they are making you test so they pay

Mooooo · 17-09-2016 08:39PM

J.O. Farmer wrote: »

blue5000 wrote: »

Possibly, or the following test. It might depend on how busy they are. But they'll pay if RD10's vet does it.

I thought your vet did the test and you pay for one clear test per year unless you request additional private tests.
Do department vets do retests after reactors. About 10 years since we were down but our vet did all the testing.

Doesn't have to be dept vet. Sometimes they may do one herd in an area

Buford T. Justice XIX · 17-09-2016 08:45PM

Mooooo wrote: »

Doesn't have to be dept vet. Sometimes they may do one herd in an area

Every herd in the outbreak here was Dept tested at least once, either the first test or second after the reactors had gone and some contiguous herds were Dept tested too.

And it looks like I avoided a herd test charge this year, 2 Dept tests clear and next herd test due in January:)

mikeoh · 18-09-2016 10:00PM

One of my weanlings broke a leg this evening.....she was born after my tb test do I need a permit to have her killed for the freezer in the morning or do I have to bring her to the knackery

Water John · 18-09-2016 10:11PM

Could be wrong but have to do it within 24 hours. Not sure if your vet has to see her. Its moving her is considered the problem. Animal in pain, suffering etc.

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