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Equality of marriage and love

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    #1082
    Annasopra
    Registered Users Posts: 40,912 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    The Randy Riverbeast wrote: »
    A business should be allowed to not deal with a LGBT person

    Should a business be allowed to not deal with black people then?

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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    #1083
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Joeytheparrot wrote: »
    Should a business be allowed to not deal with black people then?

    I think you're missing Randy's point, that be of the position businesses should be allowed to discriminate while introducing laws that block businesses from accomodating people is hypocritical.


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    #1084
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    The child predator thing doesn't work for me either. Read a piece the other day saying, allowing armed men to protect women in the ladies is allowing paedos in toilets and blaming, I think the National Parent Council, for that. Way OTT and scare mongering about men for me. I can see their point, but demonising men defeats it.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1085
    Cabaal
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    K-9 wrote: »
    The child predator thing doesn't work for me either. Read a piece the other day saying, allowing armed men to protect women in the ladies is allowing paedos in toilets and blaming, I think the National Parent Council, for that. Way OTT and scare mongering about men for me. I can see their point, but demonising men defeats it.

    No it doesn't work because its complete utter bull****,
    Statistically a boy has more chance being assaulted or abused by a grown adult man in the men's room, are they going to ban adult men from men's rooms?


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    #1086
    Links234
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    And another of these laws crumbles

    "Those breaking the law could have faced six months in jail or a $500 fine"

    This was pure insanity.


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    #1087
    Links234
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    Presented without comment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7dfsvUOnM


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    #1088
    K-9
    Registered Users Posts: 43,311 ✭✭✭✭K-9


    Cabaal wrote: »
    No it doesn't work because its complete utter bull****,
    Statistically a boy has more chance being assaulted or abused by a grown adult man in the men's room, are they going to ban adult men from men's rooms?

    Yeah, that's another point, better and more forthright than mine!

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1089
    marienbad
    Registered Users Posts: 9,463 ✭✭✭marienbad


    Links234 wrote: »
    Presented without comment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7dfsvUOnM

    How sad is it when you puff yourself up with that crap.


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    #1090
    Cabaal
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    Links234 wrote: »
    Presented without comment:

    sigh
    so much ignorance
    Curious what group they'll blame next for stuff,


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    #1091
    Links234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ax3wHnYGDVQ


    Bill Maher and Dan Savage slamming Ann Coulter over trans rights, pretty good. ;)


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    #1092
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    The bakery in the 'gay cake row' is back in court to fight the judgement

    http://www.thejournal.ie/gay-cake-row-appeal-2756706-May2016/
    Daniel McArthur said: “It has been a long and difficult road, but we have been sustained every step of the way by the word of God and by the many thousands of people who have supported us. Many share our beliefs about marriage. Many more defend our freedom to hold those beliefs.

    Many in the USA also believed god was on their side when they protested against the idea of mixed raced marriage. These people will be seen no different to them in our history as time moves on.


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    #1093
    Absolam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Many in the USA also believed god was on their side when they protested against the idea of mixed raced marriage. These people will be seen no different to them in our history as time moves on.
    People generally do think God is on their side though. When they think they're right anyway, which is most of the time. On this occasion, it seems Northern Ireland's Attorney General may be on their side as well, which may be a more significant benefit to them.


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    #1094
    Cabaal
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    Absolam wrote: »
    People generally do think God is on their side though. When they think they're right anyway, which is most of the time..

    Yeah, in fairness the people against transgender people going to certain bathrooms must be right. Sure they even got a law passed in their favor.

    So both god and the law is on their side
    :rolleyes:


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    #1095
    Absolam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Yeah, in fairness the people against transgender people going to certain bathrooms must be right. Sure they even got a law passed in their favor. So both god and the law is on their side :rolleyes:
    Well gosh that's a heck of a point, just like the last one. The :rolleyes: is devastating... I guess everyone should slink off now eh :D


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    #1096
    MrPudding
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    Cabaal wrote: »
    http://www.thejournal.ie/gay-cake-row-appeal-2756706-May2016/



    Many in the USA also believed god was on their side when they protested against the idea of mixed raced marriage. These people will be seen no different to them in our history as time moves on.

    Clearly I don't think god is on their side, but I do think they should win the appeal. Personally I don't think the case should have been taken in first place and I think it was the wrong decision (though I have to admit to not remembering the exact details of the judgement, I must look it up).

    MrP


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    #1097
    Links234
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    So, North Korea Carolina is now taking the US Justice Department to court over HB2.

    This is gonna get even uglier :(


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    #1098
    The Randy Riverbeast
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,770 ✭✭✭The Randy Riverbeast


    Links234 wrote: »
    So, North Korea Carolina is now taking the US Justice Department to court over HB2.

    This is gonna get even uglier :(

    Im starting to understand why republicans are for small governments. If I was voting in these people I would want to limit what they did and how much they waste.


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    #1099
    K-9
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    They are for big Government when things go for them, foundry fathers, Constitution etc.

    Against it when "liberal courts" go against them so become ardent small Governmenters!

    Goes back to when Washington brought in civil rights in the 60's.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #1100
    Cabaal
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    Had the opportunity to attend a friends wedding weekend last week, gota say I couldn't be happier for the couple. It was lovely to see so many supportive and happy people around the couple.

    Really makes you wonder about the people that voted no, for many it must be pure hatred and ignorance.


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    #1101
    Absolam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Wow, must it? No point in wondering so :)


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    #1102
    robindch
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    More Than 100 United Methodist Clergy Come Out As LGBT

    The religious leaders released their letter on the eve of the church’s General Conference.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-methodist-church-lgbt-clergy_us_5730f866e4b016f37896b8f6


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    #1103
    alan partridge aha
    Registered Users Posts: 3,202 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    robindch wrote: »
    More Than 100 United Methodist Clergy Come Out As LGBT

    The religious leaders released their letter on the eve of the church’s General Conference.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-methodist-church-lgbt-clergy_us_5730f866e4b016f37896b8f6

    LGBTQI Jeepers in another short while we will have all the letters of the alphabet.


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    #1104
    Links234
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    LGBTQI Jeepers in another short while we will have all the letters of the alphabet.

    Surely you've heard of Quiltbag by now?


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    #1105
    Absolam
    Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Oh. It doesn't stand for Quite Interesting then? :(


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    #1106
    Cabaal
    Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,470 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    The Vatican must be pissed...its not marriage equality, but its a start

    http://www.irishtimes.com/italy-enacts-legislation-to-recognise-same-sex-civil-unions-1.2645322

    Italy enacts legislation to recognise same-sex civil unions


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    #1107
    Hotblack Desiato
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    alan partridge aha wrote: »
    LGBTQI Jeepers in another short while we will have all the letters of the alphabet.

    Who knows where all this tolerance and acceptance might lead :rolleyes:

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1108
    Hotblack Desiato
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    Cabaal wrote: »
    The Vatican must be pissed

    This explains much.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1109
    Hotblack Desiato
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    robindch wrote: »
    More Than 100 United Methodist Clergy Come Out As LGBT

    The religious leaders released their letter on the eve of the church’s General Conference.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/united-methodist-church-lgbt-clergy_us_5730f866e4b016f37896b8f6

    It's great for them (that's not sarcasm, just clarifying) ;)

    Dawkins and an ex-preacher who I can't be bothered to look up right now set up a website for no-longer-believing clergy seeking a way out; people who have a lot invested in their brand of woo: careers, homes, spouses. Not easy to cast all that aside if that's what the believers insist you do.

    We now have legal protection in Ireland for gay teachers. Maybe someday, atheist teachers can come out and not fear losing their jobs...

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1110
    dublinman1990
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    Links234 wrote: »
    Presented without comment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fV7dfsvUOnM

    He should be shot with balls of his own ****e. That's what he gets as he preaches ****e to others.

    I'll get my coat.


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    #1111
    Links234
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    Once again, presented without comment:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCIYsXhR1D0


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