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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Notoriously Anti-LGBT Arkansas Pastor Facing 70 Child Porn Charges
    In a case of brutal irony, a notoriously anti-LGBT Arkansas pastor is facing 70 child-porn-related charges. Dave Reynolds, formerly of the Cornerstone Bible Fellowship in Sherwood, Arkansas, was charged this week with 70 counts, including viewing, distributing, and possessing child pornography. The 40-year-old pastor made anti-LGBT rhetoric one of the cornerstones of his sermons while preaching at Cornerstone Bible Fellowship, and many LGBT activists can’t help but point out the hypocrisy of preaching against consenting same-sex relationships while allegedly indulging in some of the most sickening behavior in modern society.

    Please remind us again how LGBT people are a threat to children... :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,247 ✭✭✭pauldla


    Senior Vatican Cardinal warns ‘demonic’ transgender rights are causing the ‘death of God’

    Anyone bringing 'demons' into public discourse should be escorted politely but firmly back to their room.


  • Registered Users Posts: 11,843 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    pauldla wrote: »
    Senior Vatican Cardinal warns ‘demonic’ transgender rights are causing the ‘death of God’

    Anyone bringing 'demons' into public discourse should be escorted politely but firmly back to their room.

    "OK Cardinal, back in your box." :pac:


  • Posts: 0 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    If Transgender Rights can kill God, then maybe Transgender Rights are the REAL God!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 752 ✭✭✭Lurkio


    pauldla wrote: »
    Senior Vatican Cardinal warns ‘demonic’ transgender rights are causing the ‘death of God’

    Anyone bringing 'demons' into public discourse should be escorted politely but firmly back to their room.


    Now this is the Catholicism I remember
    https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/vatican-cardinal-rebukes-demonic-attacks-on-family-at-washington-breakfast

    I'm invigorated after reading that.....the neighbours "co-habit".....I'll have to practice me judgmental gaze.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    Step-father pleads guilty to incest after forcing himself on transgender daughter over period of 13 years
    The man threatened to financially ruin the transgender woman’s mother if she spoke of the abuse

    Yet it's trans people who are a threat to others?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Masha Gessen, a US-based journalist, author and gay-rights activist, writes about the breathless aftermath of her native Russia's loss to Ukraine in the Eurovision:

    http://www.newyorker.com/culture/culture-desk/russia-declares-war-on-eurovision


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Links234 wrote: »
    Notoriously Anti-LGBT Arkansas Pastor Facing 70 Child Porn Charges



    Please remind us again how LGBT people are a threat to children... :mad:

    as you ask :(

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Three million people want to ban same-sex marriage in Romania.
    "The Coalition for Family, a group of religion NGO groups headed by the powerful Orthodox Church, needed 500,000 signatures to submit to the Romanian government. They raised over 3 million.
    They did this by using tens of thousands of volunteers, sign-up sheets in churches, knocking on doors and investing in adverts in public squares and on TV."

    Ah religion, its all about the love, peace and acceptance of other people...apparently, as you can see from the picture they are once again a religious group that are obsessed with gay men....but not so much with the lesbians, poor lesbian feeling left out all the time :(

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/three-million-people-want-ban-sex-marriage-romania/#gs._jK_BtI

    They have 3millions signatures out of a population of around 20.1million, so its hardly a majority and I'd question the legitimacy of many of those signatures


  • Registered Users Posts: 707 ✭✭✭Hoagy


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Ah religion, its all about the love, peace and acceptance of other people...apparently, as you can see from the picture they are once again a religious group that are obsessed with gay men....but not so much with the lesbians, poor lesbian feeling left out all the time :(

    http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/three-million-people-want-ban-sex-marriage-romania/#gs._jK_BtI

    They have 3millions signatures out of a population of around 20.1million, so its hardly a majority and I'd question the legitimacy of many of those signatures

    You'd have to love the 'no rear entry' symbol though.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 20,944 ✭✭✭✭Links234


    So now someone has set off a bomb in the ladies toilets in a Target store

    I wonder does this have anything to do with all that anti-transgender hate being drummed up lately?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,936 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    http://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/church-must-apologise-to-gay-people-pope-s-adviser-declares-1.2697089
    A leading cardinal has said the Catholic Church should apologise to the gay community for its scandalous and terrible treatment of them, which had not changed until “very recently”.

    Speaking in Dublin, Cardinal Reinhard Marx said: “The history of homosexuals in our societies is very bad because we’ve done a lot to marginalise [them].”

    As church and society “we’ve also to say ‘sorry, sorry’ ”.

    The German cardinal is a member of the council of nine cardinals chosen by Pope Francis to advise him.

    Until “very recently”, the church, but also society at large, had been “very negative about gay people . . . it was the whole society. It was a scandal and terrible,” he told The Irish Times after speaking at a conference held in Trinity College.

    He said he had “shocked” people at the October 2014 extraordinary synod of bishops in Rome when he asked how it was possible to dismiss as worthless a same-sex relationship of years duration where both men had been faithful.

    “We have to respect the decisions of people. We have to respect also, as I said in the first synod on the family, some were shocked but I think it’s normal, you cannot say that a relationship between a man and a man and they are faithful [that] that is nothing, that has no worth,” he said.

    Archbishop of Munich and Freising, Cardinal Marx would not be drawn when asked by The Irish Times for his view on Vatican secretary of state Cardinal Parolin’s description of the marriage equality referendum result in Ireland last year as “a defeat for humanity”.
    Hesitant to judge
    Cardinal Marx said, “I don’t comment on others because that is not good.” As an outsider in the Irish context he was “hesitant” about making a judgment, he said.

    He spoke to the media in Trinity College Dublin after addressing a conference organised by Trinity’s Loyola Institute on The Role of Church in a Pluralist Society: Good Riddance or Good Influence?

    It is up to the state “to make regulations for homosexuals so they have equal rights or nearly equal . . . but marriage is another point”, he said. The secular state “has to regulate these partnerships and to bring them into a just position and we as church cannot be against it”.

    But “in all the history of mankind that [marriage] was the relationship between one man and woman, two who are open to give life for the next generation and that is a special relationship I think.”

    The state “must be secular. The state is not a Christian state. But the society is not secular. Society is Christian or religious, non-religious, multireligious, whatever,” he said.

    Some welcome remarks there I suppose, but he's seriously 'off message' even in the (fake PR bullshiit) Frankie era, so that's just one guy's opinion. If the pope himself is not willing to change doctrine then no-one else can.

    At this stage they should probably just apologise to the entire human race, they've fecked everyone over at some point, and disband - if they had any morals or integrity.

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    [...] and disband - if they had any morals or integrity.
    I can see a small flaw in your plan.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,840 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    gay christian will always be an oxymoron for me but whatever you are into, seems to be a it of overreach here though


    Christian Mingle must let LGBT singles use dating site after losing court battle - Trending - CBC News
    Christian Mingle must let LGBT singles use dating site after losing court battle

    God-loving gay singles have won the right to mingle on the world's most popular Christian dating site — and every other faith-based matchmaking network owned by its parent company, following a California court ruling.

    Spark Networks, which owns ChristianMingle, JDate, and LDSSingles.com ("the largest dating site by Mormons for Mormons"), first came under legal fire in 2013 after two gay men noticed that new members could only search for dates of the opposite sex.

    In filing a class-action lawsuit, the men alleged that Spark was breaking California anti-discrimination laws by making it impossible for members of the LGBT community to use its services.

    Same-sex Christian couples couldn't be matched through ChristianMingle because members couldn't register as gay in the first


    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Spent 2 weeks in Canada in July, happened to arrive the day after the Pride parade, Interesting to note at least two of the church's having pride flags or positive messages towards gay people

    I managed to snap this from a bus. Must say I've never seen anything like this in Ireland.
    Also was very interesting to see all the company's that had pride colours, from big banks, to bars. Window displays or flags.

    392645.jpg


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,208 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    https://twitter.com/J_Manasa/status/761992950456979456

    Always knew vegetables were part of the gay agenda...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    It's all about profit, that is Tesco's only agenda.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 18,208 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil




  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    They've been busy in Paris

    http://www.thejournal.ie/paris-gay-marriage-protest-3030471-Oct2016/
    TENS OF THOUSANDS of protesters took to the streets of Paris yesterday to demonstrate against gay marriage, calling for candidates in France’s presidential election to support “traditional family values”.
    Police said up to 24,000 people took part, while organisers put the number far higher at 200,000.

    200k? why stop there, why not claim it was 4million? :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 40,154 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    Cabaal wrote: »
    They've been busy in Paris

    http://www.thejournal.ie/paris-gay-marriage-protest-3030471-Oct2016/


    Police said up to 24,000 people took part, while organisers put the number far higher at 200,000.

    200k? why stop there, why not claim it was 4million? :pac:

    the Eoin McLove episode of father ted was on last night. As Dougal said "I'm no good at estimating the size of crowds but i reckon there is about 17 million of them out there".


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,462 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    The roots in the Irish young people in their faith and formation aren't very deep

    No ****, they have little interest in priests telling them what to do with their lives


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,199 ✭✭✭alan partridge aha


    France should let the people decide.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,936 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    So minorities only get rights if the majority agree? What could possibly go wrong :rolleyes:

    Life ain't always empty.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    So minorities only get rights if the majority agree? What could possibly go wrong :rolleyes:

    Absolutely.. let the people who know they know what's best for us decide instead. That never went wrong :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,114 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Absolam wrote: »
    Absolutely.. let the people who know they know what's best for us decide instead. That never went wrong :rolleyes:

    Well, at least it's better than letting the catholic church decide.












    :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,056 ✭✭✭✭Peregrinus


    I'm confused, Pherekydes. Are you saying that putting these questions to a referendum, instead of having the legislature deal with them, is tantamount to letting the Catholic church decide them?


  • Registered Users Posts: 16,114 ✭✭✭✭Pherekydes


    Peregrinus wrote: »
    I'm confused, Pherekydes. Are you saying that putting these questions to a referendum, instead of having the legislature deal with them, is tantamount to letting the Catholic church decide them?

    Well, it certainly was, back in the day, when the RCC used their influence and authority to direct their flock to vote certain ways.


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,913 ✭✭✭Absolam


    Pherekydes wrote: »
    Well, at least it's better than letting the catholic church decide.
    :rolleyes:
    What exactly is the difference do you think?


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,399 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    At a catholic-controlled school in Missouri, a teacher asks his/her students to write a paper in the style of Thomas Acquinas in which the student justifies the institutional church's position on marriage equality. The teacher does not get what he/she expects from one student.

    The news report is here. And the final, and rather fabulously annotated and reasoned, 127-page paper is here:

    https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wPiLCk3zM-z7PbJvxSZQSIMi8_ZivXqmfVfnV-YfirI/pub


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  • Registered Users Posts: 33,936 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    As worthy and all as it probably is, life is simply too short :(

    Life ain't always empty.



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