Ulster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumour Thread II

Utah_Saint · 24-12-2017 12:04am

thomond2006 wrote: »

While the pack is a mess right now, I am intrigued to see where Ulster go in the back three. Piutau's departure frees up a lot of funds. I assume Trimble and Bowe are on national contracts so if they leave/retire it probably makes little difference to Ulster's purchasing power? Stockdale is a star in the making (maybe leave him on the wing?!) but Ulster could do with another name (Irish eligible or otherwise) to compete with Gilroy etc.

Lyttle is a good bet, just needs to stay fit

FrannoFan · 24-12-2017 12:09am

What about that ulster local guy who got you to a European final? O yea. Fired him

NO no the other local who delivered last piece of silverware? O yea. Fired him as well.

Squad depth isn't there. Clearly a very poor pack that got manhandled today. Blaming kiss might be convenient and I'm not saying he is the right man necessarily but at some point you need a bit of patience. New coaches have been brought in.

Sack kiss and replace him with who and then what becomes of gibbes and peel?

Some unrealistic expectations need to be tempered. Keep targeting Europe for now makes sense as don't have the depth for 2 fronts right now. If it goes wrong in last 2 games of Europe can switch focus to rabo. Top 3 in the conference not that tricky a target.

bilston · 24-12-2017 12:22am

thomond2006 wrote: »

While the pack is a mess right now, I am intrigued to see where Ulster go in the back three. Piutau's departure frees up a lot of funds. I assume Trimble and Bowe are on national contracts so if they leave/retire it probably makes little difference to Ulster's purchasing power? Stockdale is a star in the making (maybe leave him on the wing?!) but Ulster could do with another name (Irish eligible or otherwise) to compete with Gilroy etc.

Rob Lyttle will hopefully stay fit. He looked sharp tonight in his cameo. Stockdale, Gilroy and Lyttle look to be our options. Bowe probably merits another 12 months too as he has played quite well this season. Alas Trimby looks done.

bilston · 24-12-2017 12:23am

thomond2006 wrote: »

While the pack is a mess right now, I am intrigued to see where Ulster go in the back three. Piutau's departure frees up a lot of funds. I assume Trimble and Bowe are on national contracts so if they leave/retire it probably makes little difference to Ulster's purchasing power? Stockdale is a star in the making (maybe leave him on the wing?!) but Ulster could do with another name (Irish eligible or otherwise) to compete with Gilroy etc.

Rob Lyttle will hopefully stay fit. He looked sharp tonight in his cameo. Stockdale, Gilroy and Lyttle look to be our options. Bowe probably merits another 12 months too as he has played quite well this season. Alas Trimby looks done.

bilston · 24-12-2017 12:23am

thomond2006 wrote: »

While the pack is a mess right now, I am intrigued to see where Ulster go in the back three. Piutau's departure frees up a lot of funds. I assume Trimble and Bowe are on national contracts so if they leave/retire it probably makes little difference to Ulster's purchasing power? Stockdale is a star in the making (maybe leave him on the wing?!) but Ulster could do with another name (Irish eligible or otherwise) to compete with Gilroy etc.

Rob Lyttle will hopefully stay fit. He looked sharp tonight in his cameo. Stockdale, Gilroy and Lyttle look to be our options. Bowe probably merits another 12 months too as he has played quite well this season. Alas Trimby looks done.

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-12-2017 12:24am

jacothelad wrote: »

BUT...Why was Lealiifano not playing. He will be gone in 4 weeks. Play the fecker.

It's silly to suppose that Ulster have full control over his schedule. He is on loan. He is leaving in 4 weeks. He will have a season to play. I'm willing to wager that his position with Ulster has player management clauses.

Buer · 24-12-2017 8:37am

FrannoFan wrote: »

NO no the other local who delivered last piece of silverware? O yea. Fired him as well.

McCall wasn't fired.

Utah_Saint · 24-12-2017 8:52am

Buer wrote: »

FrannoFan wrote: »

NO no the other local who delivered last piece of silverware? O yea. Fired him as well.

McCall wasn't fired.

And McLaughlin was shafted by humph, fans didn't want him moved on.

Utah_Saint · 24-12-2017 9:07am

Buer wrote: »

FrannoFan wrote: »

NO no the other local who delivered last piece of silverware? O yea. Fired him as well.

McCall wasn't fired.

You have to wonder if Saracens get beat tonight, how much longer will McCall get. 7 defeats on the bounce so far

Burkie1203 · 24-12-2017 9:20am

Utah_Saint wrote: »

You have to wonder if Saracens get beat tonight, how much longer will McCall get. 7 defeats on the bounce so far

I dont think he is in any immediate danger. The players showed away to clermont that they still play for him 100% and are just going through a rough patch

bilston · 24-12-2017 9:30am

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Buer wrote: »

FrannoFan wrote: »

NO no the other local who delivered last piece of silverware? O yea. Fired him as well.

McCall wasn't fired.

You have to wonder if Saracens get beat tonight, how much longer will McCall get. 7 defeats on the bounce so far

He shouldn't be in any danger. Win today and they are potentially 2nd in the league. Best the Ospreys and Northampton in Europe and they are in the Quarter Finals. Getting rid of McCall would redefine the term "hasty"!!

prawnsambo · 24-12-2017 10:12am

Utah_Saint wrote: »

And McLaughlin was shafted by humph, fans didn't want him moved on.

You seem to be assuming that fans have some influence on hirings and firings. I very much doubt that.

Burkie1203 · 24-12-2017 10:17am

https://twitter.com/BBCMarkSimpson/status/944843393850626048

FrannoFan · 24-12-2017 10:25am

Buer wrote: »

McCall wasn't fired.

So why did he leave? To take up a job offer in pro D2 that only came about later?

Might have resigned but definitely encouraged

CIARAN_BOYLE · 24-12-2017 11:33am

Utah_Saint wrote: »

And McLaughlin was shafted by humph, fans didn't want him moved on.

His contract was up. If he extended his contract he would have to give up his teaching job as He had taken the maximum number of career breaks.

He wanted a permanent deal to stay in the set up. Can you imagine Ulster rugby handing someone a permanent coaching deal. Can you imagine the ****storm from the fans about how stupid Ulster were do do so?

Ulster gave him a permanent deal in another role instead which he l3ft of his own volition.

mfceiling · 24-12-2017 11:59am

mfceiling wrote: »

I wouldn't say there are a few good wins. Harlequins aren't great. A snatched draw against a poor Scarlets team. A last minute try to beat Treviso and the Southern Kings. We've been falling over the line and I reckon we'll be shown up big time when we start meeting a few of the better teams out there.

And that folks was posted a week ago...

durthacht · 24-12-2017 12:31pm

I missed the post match interviews yesterday so googled videos for "les kiss".

The results were very different to what I had expected. Not unpleasant, but certainly unexpected.

Buer · 24-12-2017 1:38pm

Putting aside the erotic internet adventures of durthacht, the interview can be found here if you skip to 2 hours 3mins:

http://www.tg4.ie/ga/player/baile/?pid=5691697169001&teideal=Rugba%C3%AD%20Beo%20&series=Rugba%C3%AD%20Beo%20&dlft=35

Utah_Saint · 24-12-2017 1:55pm

Buer wrote: »

Putting aside the erotic internet adventures of durthacht, the interview can be found here if you skip to 2 hours 3mins:

http://www.tg4.ie/ga/player/baile/?pid=5691697169001&teideal=Rugba%C3%AD%20Beo%20&series=Rugba%C3%AD%20Beo%20&dlft=35

Lol at all he guy 2hrs 2mins in putting the Ulster flag in the middle of the pitch

awec · 24-12-2017 2:10pm

Utah_Saint wrote: »

Lol at all he guy 2hrs 2mins in putting the Ulster flag in the middle of the pitch

Pretty sure that’s Hollywood Mike from UAFC lol

Wegians89 · 24-12-2017 2:15pm

I know it's probably a lot easier said then done but Ulster could do worse then lining up with 9 cooney 10 MC Philips 12 CL/ S McC for the rest of the time CLis there, MC Philips looked impressive

Utah_Saint · 24-12-2017 2:26pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

I know it's probably a lot easier said then done but Ulster could do worse then lining up with 9 cooney 10 MC Philips 12 CL/ S McC for the rest of the time CLis there, MC Philips looked impressive

Yeah it would, but that goes against the Kiss player position lottery.

bilston · 24-12-2017 2:54pm

Wegians89 wrote: »

I know it's probably a lot easier said then done but Ulster could do worse then lining up with 9 cooney 10 MC Philips 12 CL/ S McC for the rest of the time CLis there, MC Philips looked impressive

In the league maybe...but not in Europe

Scythica · 28-12-2017 10:06pm

Saw in the news there that Best Hendo and Stockdale aren't going to be playing against Munster

Former Former · 28-12-2017 10:18pm

Scythica wrote: »

Saw in the news there that Best Hendo and Stockdale aren't going to be playing against Munster

http://www.bbc.com/sport/rugby-union/42503289

I guess no one could play all three rounds so a choice of Hendo and Stockdale either playing against Leinster or Munster.

awec · 28-12-2017 10:21pm

If we lose at home to Munster Kiss will be roasted.

Utah_Saint · 28-12-2017 10:28pm

awec wrote: »

If we lose at home to Munster Kiss will be roasted.

Hopefully, but I'd say he will be given until the end of the year if by roasted you mean sacked.

I am expecting a bonus point win for Munster. We'll get a lbp

awec · 28-12-2017 10:52pm

Lose to Munster and lose to leinster and I’d say Kiss is toast.

Or at the very least I think things will get quite unpleasant for him.

bilston · 28-12-2017 11:35pm

awec wrote: »

Lose to Munster and lose to leinster and I’d say Kiss is toast.

Or at the very least I think things will get quite unpleasant for him.

Better he is removed than for things to get unpleasant. At the end of the day he is just a bloke trying to do a job.

Personally if I had to choose I'd be going full strength against Munster and then weak against Leinster.

I think this is a big mistake.

I reckon we will see a back row of Diack, Reidy and Timoney against Munster which is just the very definition of military medium.

Squidgy Black · 28-12-2017 11:38pm

bilston wrote: »

Better he is removed than for things to get unpleasant. At the end of the day he is just a bloke trying to do a job.

Personally if I had to choose I'd be going full strength against Munster and then weak against Leinster.

I think this is a big mistake.

I reckon we will see a back row of Diack, Reidy and Timoney against Munster which is just the very definition of military medium.

Reidy won't be available he's still injured according to the BBC

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