Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

CiDeRmAn

sligeach wrote: »

Again €5 would be too much for me to buy Super Mario All Stars. If I want to play it, I've the original cart sitting less than 10 feet away from me at the minute. There's no incentive for me to rebuy most of these games. €3 maybe and if it had cross platform support. Anyway Nintendo like milking these games and are quite content to charge €5 for them individually as NES games. I expect all our VC games can be transferred to the NX and that they'll be cross platform compatible at that point.

:eek:
A fiver for that collection is a great deal.
And they probably don't have you, with your original cartridge with in mind.
If a person has never played the classic Mario titles but owns a device that can play the VC version, then that's who a €5 copy of the game should be aimed at.
Furthermore, I too own the original cart but a fiver for that collection would be amazing, and no less of a good deal than the copies of Super Harrier, Sonic 2 and Outrun that I've bought for the 3DS, despite owning multiple copies of them on other formats already.
Looking at how Sony and MS are mining their own back catalogues and the prices they want, I think Nintendo aren't asking too much tbh.
Broadly speaking classic Xbox games are going for around a tenner a pop or a little bit more, so not such a gulf between the pricing structures tbh.
We'll just have to wait until 2016 to see what Nintendo have in store for us.

sligeach

I suppose €5 wouldn't be bad. But Nintendo currently charge €20 for all of Super Mario All Stars content on the eShop.

CiDeRmAn

I'm not disagreeing with you that this software is, at times, overpriced.
I did a quick look and the likes of Crimson Skies on XBL is indeed about a tenner here.
That's a tenner for a GC era game, so €20 for a Wii game isn't so bad, though I'd have preferred if they'd have altered the code to allow the WiiU pad to be able to control things, where appropriate.
And, you are right in saying that Snes and earlier should be in the sub tenner zone, sell a hell of a lot more and expand appreciation for the fantastic body of work that was published on their 8 and 16bit consoles.

So, for the NX...

I want the Megaman collection that was due to be released for the GBA, with all five of the original GB Megaman titles therein, as a launch title, for some reason!
No, the reason is it'd be awesome!

sligeach

I was thinking of a game the NX could launch with. Back on the Wii we had Endless Ocean and its sequel. It looked great back then but think of the possibilties today if the rumours of the NX's power are true. It would be lifelike, allow so much more on screen, better physics, lighting, etc and could help attract casuals as well as mainstream fans. It would be a great alternative alongside the likes of a new Mario or Metroid game at launch. If I was in charge at Nintendo it would be something I'd seriously consider.

cherryghost

Half Life 3 is the only answer.

CastorTroy

Only if it's released alongside TimeSplitters 4

MilesMorales1

sligeach wrote: »

I was thinking of a game the NX could launch with. Back on the Wii we had Endless Ocean and its sequel. It looked great back then but think of the possibilties today if the rumours of the NX's power are true. It would be lifelike, allow so much more on screen, better physics, lighting, etc and could help attract casuals as well as mainstream fans. It would be a great alternative alongside the likes of a new Mario or Metroid game at launch. If I was in charge at Nintendo it would be something I'd seriously consider.

Zelda U will be an NX launch title, duh :P

Star Lord

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Zelda U will be an NX launch title, i presume...

FYP there...

OwaynOTT

Shaq Fu 2: Return of the Fu and Rise of the planet of the Robots, will surely be their blockbuster line-up.

CiDeRmAn

I'm going to hope for Luigi's Mansion 3 and maybe Super Mario Sunshine 2.
Also, a new One Boy and his Blob

Allyall

There has to be a Metroid NX.

sligeach

Coming from Nintendo's Investor Meeting, Nintendo’s new membership service will be called “Nintendo Account” — it will connect hardware users, as well as PC and smart device users. Nintendo will use a cloud-based data service to transfer game data between mobile games and console games.

machiavellianme

But what if you don't have a cloud?

Nothing will ever be as good as carts. There I said it and I'm not taking it back.

Myrddin

machiavellianme wrote: »

But what if you don't have a cloud?

As in , what do you do if you have no internet connectivity? Assuming there will be a disc drive or media slot of some kind...then your games will work just fine. You mightn't be able to avail of any cross play functionality though, which is something Nintendo are sorely lacking. If there's no disc/media slot, & it's a digital only console...you're going to need a connection of some kind.

Nothing will ever be as good as carts. There I said it and I'm not taking it back.

Carts had their day, & while I too see their benefits...they have many drawbacks (costs, manufacturing, capacity etc).

MilesMorales1

I wonder why Metroid skipped Wii U, Nintendo has to have had a good reason for doing so, they're not stupid. Sure think by comparison, by the end of the Wii's first year, we had mario galaxy, metroid prime 3, twilight princess.

Myrddin

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

I wonder why Metroid skipped Wii U, Nintendo has to have had a good reason for doing so, they're not stupid. Sure think by comparison, by the end of the Wii's first year, we had mario galaxy, metroid prime 3, twilight princess.

Hard to say, but the Wii U despite being by far the most interesting console of the generation, looks to have been an absolute disaster. Ninty have been watching closely, & they may have decided quite a while ago to shift development of previously planned Wii U titles to the NX platform instead. All speculation really, but it's all we can do. I think Ninty dropped the ball with the name of the Wii U, & I think they dropped the ball with the hardware specs...because it made 3rd party publishing a bigger chore than it should have been.

CiDeRmAn

Myrddin wrote: »

Hard to say, but the Wii U despite being by far the most interesting console of the generation, looks to have been an absolute disaster. Ninty have been watching closely, & they may have decided quite a while ago to shift development of previously planned Wii U titles to the NX platform instead. All speculation really, but it's all we can do. I think Ninty dropped the ball with the name of the Wii U, & I think they dropped the ball with the hardware specs...because it made 3rd party publishing a bigger chore than it should have been.

I wouldn't be surprised if inside development at Nintendo all but stopped with Super Mario Kart 8.
I don't imagine that Super Mario Maker was that big a drain on resources and I would go on to speculate that those resources were instead poured into NX development, both in terms of software, firmware and the GUI.

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if inside development at Nintendo all but stopped with Super Mario Kart 8.
I don't imagine that Super Mario Maker was that big a drain on resources and I would go on to speculate that those resources were instead poured into NX development, both in terms of software, firmware and the GUI.

I tend to agree, in fact, I'd say NX development has been under-way for a lot longer than we think. That's not saying much really though, I also imagine the PS5 & Xbox Two are well beyond the white board stages too...

CiDeRmAn

I'm still waiting on the M2.....

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I'm still waiting on the M2.....

Steve X2 has one (or possibly two)

Pac1Man

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I wouldn't be surprised if inside development at Nintendo all but stopped with Super Mario Kart 8.
I don't imagine that Super Mario Maker was that big a drain on resources and I would go on to speculate that those resources were instead poured into NX development, both in terms of software, firmware and the GUI.

If that's true, it makes me kinda sad that the WiiU didn't reach its full potential.

CiDeRmAn

I think the lack of performance squeezed out of the console by third parties at least is down to economic factors, as illustrated by the business with Project Cars.
It boiled down to it simply not worth it to the developers to invest resources in a niche title that was never going to sell in large numbers.

Mr.Saturn

Myrddin wrote: »

I think Ninty dropped the ball with the name of the Wii U

I was always kinda dismissive of this point until recently. It would never occur to the like of us here, gaming forum frequenters, but, in conversation with some folk who'd consider themselves relatively dedicated fans of gaming, there was a few instances in which they'd assumed the Wii U was merely an add-on to the Wii.

Dunno how much you could reasonably expect a name change to achieve in terms of sales, but even something as bland as Wii 2 might've lead to less confusion in the market place.

CiDeRmAn

I think it was more that the "new" market that the Wii had captured viewed the likes of Wii Sports as a novelty in the end, became bored and moved on, principally to games on their smart phone.
They could have come up with a better name for three Wii U, sure, but I don't believe it would have made an ounce of difference.
Also, the gaming youth market who, previously, had the Wii bought for them were bought a resurgent Sony console instead rather than a Wii U.

Swings and roundabouts.

It's more remarkable that Nintendo have managed to stay this relevant having been 30 years in the business, I have a feeling the NX, whatever it is, will be stunning, or should that be a hope?

Star Lord

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

They could have come up with a better name for three Wii U, sure, but I don't believe it would have made an ounce of difference.

A better name would have prevented the confusion with those that thought it was yet another add on for the Wii. Of course, some decent advertising would have done no harm either.

Dozen Wicked Words

Star Lord wrote: »

A better name would have prevented the confusion with those that thought it was yet another add on for the Wii. Of course, some decent advertising would have done no harm either.

Lot of the mums and dads looking to buy little freddie a new console would look at the shelves and only see the new Xbox One and PS 4 and since Frederick already had a wii and had the plastic tennis racket etc, he didn't need any more add ons.


None of the women at my work know/knew the Wii U was a new console, separate from the old wii, so Nintendo should be ashamed of themselves.

Sofiztikated

Dozen Wicked Words wrote: »

Lot of the mums and dads looking to buy little freddie a new console would look at the shelves and only see the new Xbox One and PS 4 and since Frederick already had a wii and had the plastic tennis racket etc, he didn't need any more add ons.


None of the women at my work know/knew the Wii U was a new console, separate from the old wii, so Nintendo should be ashamed of themselves.

The majority of my friends that into gaming of any sort didn't/still don't know what the WiiU was. And they're in the early 20's through to mid 40's. THAT is something Nintendo should be ashamed of.

CiDeRmAn

I think it reflects that people are, in many cases, as dumb as a bucket of frogs.

OwaynOTT

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I think it reflects that people are, in many cases, as dumb as a bucket of frogs.

But Nintendo should know that and spoon-feed their products to the masses.

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

They could have come up with a better name for three Wii U, sure, but I don't believe it would have made an ounce of difference.

Can't say I'd agree there either, I don't have a problem with the name...but the addition of a single letter just isn't enough to distinguish one generation of console to the next (from a marketing perspective). People had Wii's lying collecting dust for literally years, and then Nintendo go and add a single letter to the name of the next console, so to the layman they've essentially the same name...how enthused are people going to be and go about and spend several hundred quid on it in light of that? Not very would be my guess, and the sales figures certainly are congruent with my guess too.

Nintendo failed to realise that the Wii was, in essence, a fluke. It pioneered some great things, but on the whole, the hype and interest had long since died off in the Wii...and yet they try and build on it with very, very little effort imo. I definitely feel Ninty screwed up big time with the Wii U, and quite honestly, I feel they got cocky about the success of the Wii. Nintendo have gotten a big kick up the ass as a result, and fingers crossed we'll all be the better for it.