Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

murphyebass

iamtony wrote: »

If it's 2017 they would want to get the finger out with some new 3ds and Wii U games!

I can only speak for myself but I have no need for more Wii U games even if nothing's released till 2017.

Sooooooo many I still haven't gotten round to but I see what you mean.

Mario Maker on its own has pretty much unlimited potential for the next few years!

God I love that game.

MilesMorales1

iamtony wrote: »

They just can't win can they!

It is a tough one Too cheap, and presumably you don't make your profit off it, too much, and no one buys the thing. Fine balancing act.

CiDeRmAn

iamtony wrote: »

If it's a hybrid and comes with the 3ds successor as well as having more power it's Gona cost a lot of money I'd say.

Again, I doubt they'll release it with the handheld, the WiiU cost too much because of the Touchpad. I'd say it might be an option but its more likely to launch with a standard controller and an option to use the 3DS range or even, maybe, the existing WiiU Touchpad.
If they release the 3DS successor in the same year then that will certainly be an option too, probably the preferred one, but I just can't see Nintendo making the same mistake again.
This might be the most vanilla console released by Nintendo ever, but it might also be the one to bring back the masses.
The 3DS has done well by not leaning on the machines novelties and focusing instead on games.
And that's all the speculation this games playing Ninty fanboy can manage!

sligeach

WSJ journalist comments a bit more on the power behind NX

The Wall Street Journal published an article about the NX on Friday, which was written by journalist Takashi Mochizuki. One of the items highlighted in the piece is that Nintendo’s new system features “industry-leading chips”.

Mochizuki has now shared just a tiny bit more on that statement based on sources he has spoken with. Here’s what he told NintenGen:

-Several people who said who have seen a demo said what they saw is impossible to run on a computer without a “industry-leading” or “cutting-edge” chips. Cutting-edge in what way, they refused to elaborate.
-And an important thing to remember, probably you know well already, is that chip specs won’t be finalized until much closer date to the release.

Mochizuki also tweeted out the following:

https://twitter.com/mochi_wsj/status/655520690381066240?ref_src=twsrc^tfw

I’m not too sure how much we can make of the early comments about NX’s chips, but I suppose it makes things a tad more interesting. We’ll see what comes of this all!

http://nintendoeverything.com/wsj-journalist-comments-a-bit-more-on-the-power-behind-nx/

CiDeRmAn

sligeach wrote: »

http://nintendoeverything.com/wsj-journalist-comments-a-bit-more-on-the-power-behind-nx/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHA4-5N5AzA

Pac1Man

Aahhh I shouldn't be getting excited by all of this but it's just too hard not to!


I haven't read through everything but if reports are to be believed, will the successor be an improved version of the WiiU where the gamepad is now the next 3DS, i.e. a Super Wii?

MilesMorales1

Pac1Man wrote: »

Aahhh I shouldn't be getting excited by all of this but it's just too hard not to!


I haven't read through everything but if reports are to be believed, will the successor be an improved version of the WiiU where the gamepad is now the next 3DS, i.e. a Super Wii?

Well according to the guy that runs serebii, and stuff iwata said, we're looking at two devices with the same system to allow cross play, maybe like iPod and iPad. Or maybe what Sony does with the Vita and PS4/PS3? Exciting stuff.

DARK-KNIGHT

Do we have a release date yet

Nollog

The cycle is back!

rumours about super-powerful specs, next up is third party support, then a good e3, then devs tweeting remarks about how ****ty it is, followed by disappearing support and months of "what did you mean?!?!", and then nintendo games come out and we stop caring.

Ol' Donie

I don't need to know anything except preorder date and release date.

CiDeRmAn

Super Mario Galaxy 3 please, or maybe Super Mario Sunshine 2.
Also, a proper Metroid Prime sequel and F Zero, all at launch.
I'm sure there are pretty poor odds on there not being the full gamut of Ubisoft tripe upon release of the NX, so no surprises to see Assassins Creed, Far Cry or, gods help us, another Watchdogs title

MilesMorales1

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Super Mario Galaxy 3 please, or maybe Super Mario Sunshine 2.
Also, a proper Metroid Prime sequel and F Zero, all at launch.
I'm sure there are pretty poor odds on there not being the full gamut of Ubisoft tripe upon release of the NX, so no surprises to see Assassins Creed, Far Cry or, gods help us, another Watchdogs title

2D sequel to Super Metroid duh.

GhostInTheRuins

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

2D sequel to Super Metroid duh.

Why not both!

Sofiztikated

Pac1Man wrote: »

i.e. a Super Wii?

And there we go, there's the NX's release name. SuperWiiU. Followed by the slightly jizzed up one, New SuperWiiU.

Honestly, if Ninty want to get a share of the modern sales, COD and FIFA and all that ****e will need to part of it.

sligeach

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

Well according to the guy that runs serebii, and stuff iwata said, we're looking at two devices with the same system to allow cross play, maybe like iPod and iPad. Or maybe what Sony does with the Vita and PS4/PS3? Exciting stuff.

Sorry but that guy is a pretentious b*11$h1tt€r.

Star Lord

Yeah, the guy's been linked to loads of false rumours.

CiDeRmAn

But it's probably an obvious guess, two systems running compatible OS, linking via Bluetooth and allowing one to be used to expand the features of the other.
One, cross platform, EShop, meaning that Nintendo can catch up with the stuff that PS and MS have been doing for over a decade now.
And then releasing games with downloadable features for the other system, essentially links to demos and other treats.
The news that the system will compete/surpass the current gen consoles is the best rumour, at least allowing us to hope that Nintendo have moved on from the idea that the experience doesn't hang on performance, I mean they are right, but the buying public want horses under the hood, otherwise we'd all still be playing the Snes... and some of us are!

MilesMorales1

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

But it's probably an obvious guess, two systems running compatible OS, linking via Bluetooth and allowing one to be used to expand the features of the other.
One, cross platform, EShop, meaning that Nintendo can catch up with the stuff that PS and MS have been doing for over a decade now.
And then releasing games with downloadable features for the other system, essentially links to demos and other treats.
The news that the system will compete/surpass the current gen consoles is the best rumour, at least allowing us to hope that Nintendo have moved on from the idea that the experience doesn't hang on performance, I mean they are right, but the buying public want horses under the hood, otherwise we'd all still be playing the Snes... and some of us are!

Yeah thats what I was thinking. If they don't make N64/SNES/GBA games playable on the portable system this time round, it'll be a ****ing travesty.

sligeach

Nintendo NX Is Gonna Be Goooood - The Final Bosman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQg09fTjmTA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQg09fTjmTA

I agree with so much of what Kyle says in that video.

Myrddin

If there's a Virtual Console on the NX, and I think we can safely assume there will be, I'd really love if Nintendo sorted out it's pricing model. Personally, I think the prices of the games on it are scandalous...for games that are developed, built, already made, & years old...they shouldn't cost anywhere near what they do.

Without knowing the figures or anything, I honestly feel if the games cost €2 max, there'd be far more adoption & in turn, revenue.

VC content @ €9.99 = x amount of sales
VC content @ €1.99 = x amount of sales.

I know which x would be higher. Yes work goes into making these titles as accurate as can be, I appreciate that...but with a budget the size of some small countries, that should be no issue for Nintendo. I also feel there should be TONS more games on it, as opposed to the trickling out they currently do. I know I'd be far more likely to buy VC content if it was more keenly priced. As it stands, I'd just consider the €10 asking price as €10 against the price of an actual cart.

sligeach

Myrddin wrote: »

If there's a Virtual Console on the NX, and I think we can safely assume there will be, I'd really love if Nintendo sorted out it's pricing model. Personally, I think the prices of the games on it are scandalous...for games that are developed, built, already made, & years old...they shouldn't cost anywhere near what they do.

Without knowing the figures or anything, I honestly feel if the games cost €2 max, there'd be far more adoption & in turn, revenue.

VC content @ €9.99 = x amount of sales
VC content @ €1.99 = x amount of sales.

I know which x would be higher. Yes work goes into making these titles as accurate as can be, I appreciate that...but with a budget the size of some small countries, that should be no issue for Nintendo. I also feel there should be TONS more games on it, as opposed to the trickling out they currently do. I know I'd be far more likely to buy VC content if it was more keenly priced. As it stands, I'd just consider the €10 asking price as €10 against the price of an actual cart.

I completely agree that the pricing structure is wrong. I was only saying this elsewhere today. Take Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition as an example that was announced to be coming out next week. That'll normally be €20 on the eShop. But you can buy that easily on Ebay for well less than half that price.

Myrddin

sligeach wrote: »

I completely agree that the pricing structure is wrong. I was only saying this elsewhere today. Take Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition as an example that was announced to be coming out next week. That'll normally be €20 on the eShop. But you can buy that easily on Ebay for well less than half that price.

I'd make greater allowances for more recent games like that, but as you say, you can own the real thing for far less. It gets worse though going back to NES/Snes stuff, they're essentially roms that can be downloaded for free in many places all over the net. The price should reflect this, but the price for them is madness. If they were €1/€2 I'd have bought a ton of them by now & be an advocate for the VC...but I really dislike the pricing structure it uses so I don't really support it.

sligeach

It's made worse by not having purchases tied between console and handheld. They will have it fixed by NX no doubt and not before time.

CiDeRmAn

I do feel that €20 for Metroid Prime Trilogy is well worth the price, as is Super Mario Galaxy and the sequel.
I don't think €20 is a bad price for Resident Evil 4 tbh, but if you'd rather get it for the lower price on ebay, just go and get it there.

I would expect the handheld/console divide to be bridged with the next gen of Nintendo hardware.

sligeach

Some of the Wii eshop games work out cheaper digitally like Metroid Prime Trilogy and Kirby's Adventure. Some don't. Plus I much prefer owning a game physically. I think €10 was the sweet spot when they first launched Wii games and had the promotion going. I'm sure Nintendo must have noticed the massive spike in sales compared to the launch of €20 games like Sin & Punishment. Again another game that's cheaper to buy physically. I won't pay €20 for the digital games, I had no problem paying €10 for MPT however.

Myrddin

I think €20 for some Wii games is fine, with €10 being a very attractive price for many of them. My little rant above was more so geared at Nes, Snes era stuff, which is far too heavily priced, & are in fact terribly priced imo. €2 max per game, with a focus toward great value bundles would be much better

CiDeRmAn

Myrddin wrote: »

I think €20 for some Wii games is fine, with €10 being a very attractive price for many of them. My little rant above was more so geared at Nes, Snes era stuff, which is far too heavily priced, & are in fact terribly priced imo. €2 max per game, with a focus toward great value bundles would be much better

Yeah, I'm not getting why games for totally defunct consoles are still at "in the shops now" prices.
At least I can go into a shop and buy a new copy of many of the Wii classics.
As for GC, Snes or Nes games, they really are part of Nintendo's persistent legacy and should be sold cheaply to build the brand amongst people who have never played Nintendo games, having being force fed PS and Xbox games instead.
A fiver for a non enhanced copy of Super Mario Allstars for the 3DS or WiiU would seem ideal, I think I'd buy the damn thing again for that price!

sligeach

Again €5 would be too much for me to buy Super Mario All Stars. If I want to play it, I've the original cart sitting less than 10 feet away from me at the minute. There's no incentive for me to rebuy most of these games. €3 maybe and if it had cross platform support. Anyway Nintendo like milking these games and are quite content to charge €5 for them individually as NES games. I expect all our VC games can be transferred to the NX and that they'll be cross platform compatible at that point.

Allyall

I thought all Wii games were launching at €9.99, to rise to €19.99 after a week?
Not sure where I read that though.

sligeach

Allyall wrote: »

I thought all Wii games were launching at €9.99, to rise to €19.99 after a week?
Not sure where I read that though.

No, that was only for the first few releases. They've all been €20 since. The 25% off RE4 for a week will be the first new release with a reduction in a long while.