Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

chrislad

Nintendo just need to cop the hell on and release a console that plays all their games past to Wii U, plus the newer gen. Then they need to actually RELEASE the games for it. There are so many games missing from the Virtual Console marketplace, it's not even funny. It's like they don't want our money!!!

iamtony

chrislad wrote: »

Nintendo just need to cop the hell on and release a console that plays all their games past to Wii U, plus the newer gen. Then they need to actually RELEASE the games for it. There are so many games missing from the Virtual Console marketplace, it's not even funny. It's like they don't want our money!!!

They really are crazy. For instance if I were the guy in charge of the retro nes release, I wouldn't even dream of releasing it till I was able to get every developer on board that supplied games for the nes and release the console with the full nes catalogue with the machine at launch. That might create a bit of hype.

MilesMorales1

iamtony wrote: »

They really are crazy. For instance if I were the guy in charge of the retro nes release, I wouldn't even dream of releasing it till I was able to get every developer on board that supplied games for the nes and release the console with the full nes catalogue with the machine at launch. That might create a bit of hype.

But there's like 700 NES games. And quite a few of them are probably tied up in licensing agreements and ****.

CiDeRmAn

chrislad wrote: »

Nintendo just need to cop the hell on and release a console that plays all their games past to Wii U, plus the newer gen. Then they need to actually RELEASE the games for it. There are so many games missing from the Virtual Console marketplace, it's not even funny. It's like they don't want our money!!!

Nintendo released plenty of new titles for the WiiU.
All their major franchises, bar Metroid and Animal Crossing, got an outing afaik.

And if you want a machine that will play much of Nintendo's back catalogue, go and soft mod a Wii!

Deano7788

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Nintendo released plenty of new titles for the WiiU.
All their major franchises, bar Metroid and Animal Crossing, got an outing afaik.

And if you want a machine that will play much of Nintendo's back catalogue, go and soft mod a Wii!

The fact that F Zero is now not even thought of here is quite saddening.

chrislad

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Nintendo released plenty of new titles for the WiiU.
All their major franchises, bar Metroid and Animal Crossing, got an outing afaik.

And if you want a machine that will play much of Nintendo's back catalogue, go and soft mod a Wii!

I never mentioned any new games. I was referring to their exhaustive back catalog that hasn't been released on the Virtual Console, such as a massive amount of GBA games, numerous SNES games, zero GameCube games etc. A console that could play all their games, in an emulated form, would be something that I would be heavily interested in.

Also, why would I softmod a Wii when I have a PC? I'd prefer to support the company though if the option was given to me.

CiDeRmAn

Well, at least when you soft mod a Wii you are playing a Nintendo console that has access to most of the back catalogue, which is what you said you wanted.
For official support for the back catalogue, you are simply not going to get a manufacturer that is going to have every game available, case and point the 360 and PS4.
All the big and popular titles have had a launch on the VC on the various formats but there have some omissions admittedly.

None of the older Nintendo consoles cost much to own these days, outside of a few oddities.
The best way to play older Nintendo games is on older Nintendo hardware with the original carts and disks.
I picked up Ninja Gaiden and it's sequel for my Famicom recently quite cheaply, and there's no better way to play them.

But as Nintendo owners, and one's that hope to own an NX in six months, we should be looking to new titles, and titles purpose made for the new hardware, and those reveals should be here soon.

chrislad

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Well, at least when you soft mod a Wii you are playing a Nintendo console that has access to most of the back catalogue, which is what you said you wanted.
For official support for the back catalogue, you are simply not going to get a manufacturer that is going to have every game available, case and point the 360 and PS4.
All the big and popular titles have had a launch on the VC on the various formats but there have some omissions admittedly.

None of the older Nintendo consoles cost much to own these days, outside of a few oddities.
The best way to play older Nintendo games is on older Nintendo hardware with the original carts and disks.
I picked up Ninja Gaiden and it's sequel for my Famicom recently quite cheaply, and there's no better way to play them.

But as Nintendo owners, and one's that hope to own an NX in six months, we should be looking to new titles, and titles purpose made for the new hardware, and those reveals should be here soon.

The cost of the consoles isn't an issue for me. It's the storage space - NES, SNES, GBA (for GB too), N64, GameCube, and Wii U (which can double for the Wii). That's 5 power cables, and a few scart/rf cables. Lot of swapping and pulling!

Anywho, they have the facility to emulate Wii games, GB game, GBA games, NES games, SNES games, and more than likely, GC since it's emulated on the Wii, so there should be no reason they can't digitally.

I want the new stuff, but the ability to look back is just an important to me.

Myrddin

The Wii U VC should, by now, be completely filled with any available content. That fact that the Wii VC is more complete than the Wii U one, is inexcusable at this stage. Nobody should have to hack a console to play ancient (and overpriced) roms on it.

The NX VC might take some time if there's rewriting needed to port emulators & the roms, but with the resources and budget Nintendo have, it shouldn't take as long as it inevitably will.

CiDeRmAn

It was probably the poor market size that prevented Nintendo from properly investing in the VC content on the WiiU, hopefully it will be corrected on the NX but, again, I can't help but think it won't be anything like as comprehensive as people would like.

And, joined up thinking from Nintendo please, so I don't have to buy a separate copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy on my NX despite already owning it on the WiiU as well as a physical copy.

iamtony

MilesMorales1 wrote: »

But there's like 700 NES games. And quite a few of them are probably tied up in licensing agreements and ****.

Yeah I know but at this stage in time you can download one file with every nes game on it illegally so they should cop on and try to do something similar for the new nes. If not all the games then at least most of them, Christ even 100 of the best, 30 is a bit crap.

CiDeRmAn

iamtony wrote: »

Yeah I know but at this stage in time you can download one file with every nes game on it illegally so they should cop on and try to do something similar for the new nes. If not all the games then at least most of them, Christ even 100 of the best, 30 is a bit crap.

But, it remains difficult to licence all the games for use in Nintendo systems now, who has the rights, who needs payment and so on.
100 of the greatest games, yeah, I have a dodgy Chinese cart for my Famicom that has 300 of the best of the format on it and it's still missing some things.
But 30 isn't so bad, I mean, it's 30 really good games, on a system that costs the same as one modern game.
It still represents good value for money.

If hundreds of games is what you are after, buy a Raspberry Pi, get a Nintendo style USB controller, a loaded SD card and off you go.

And the only result of having 700 odd games on a system via a rom set is you are almost guaranteed to never play more than a few minutes of one, fewer is better.

iamtony

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

But, it remains difficult to licence all the games for use in Nintendo systems now, who has the rights, who needs payment and so on.
100 of the greatest games, yeah, I have a dodgy Chinese cart for my Famicom that has 300 of the best of the format on it and it's still missing some things.
But 30 isn't so bad, I mean, it's 30 really good games, on a system that costs the same as one modern game.
It still represents good value for money.

If hundreds of games is what you are after, buy a Raspberry Pi, get a Nintendo style USB controller, a loaded SD card and off you go.

And the only result of having 700 odd games on a system via a rom set is you are almost guaranteed to never play more than a few minutes of one, fewer is better.

That's some sales pitch, we would of put more games on it but that would of overwhelmed players into never playing any of the games properly:-)
Ah I know what you mean I've gotten a little carried away myself recently and I've too many things to play an as a result I wasn't finishing anything and then I decide to just switch on the telly instead. I'm gone back to my old rule of playing one game to completion before moving on but it so hard to stick to.

Myrddin

iamtony wrote: »

That's some sales pitch, we would of put more games on it but that would of overwhelmed players into never playing any of the games properly:-)

It's true though, I call it flash-cart syndrome. Every NES game you could ever dream of owning back in the day at your fingertips...the only problem is, you'll spend more time browsing them than playing them. Then when you pick one, the need to go back to browsing & find more gems overwhelms you, & before you know it you're back in the menu scrolling.

30 high quality, great games, is a sweet spot number I feel.

CiDeRmAn

It can also be call CD-R syndrome, if you are of a certain vintage

Have you seen the sad sack @tgames efforts to climb arthritically on the band wagon by trying to peddle the dire Megadrive plug and plays on the public?
You two can own dozens of classic MD games, played on a compact system that won't play them properly.
Oh, and they'll look sh1t too, via composite.

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It can also be call CD-R syndrome, if you are of a certain vintage

Don't pull that one on me, I was high speed dubbing C64 tapes before most of these whipper snappers were outta nappies

CiDeRmAn

Myrddin wrote: »

Don't pull that one on me, I was high speed dubbing C64 tapes before most of these whipper snappers were outta nappies

Never, ever use a C120.... they stretch slightly as the tape is too thin and the games won't load!
C90's FTW!
And a clearly written index of tape positions!

CastorTroy

Ah the double deck tape recorder.
I remember as well on Amiga copying disks (Piracy is bad kids!) and to get around the anti piracy that used word from pages in the manual or code wheels, would load it up multiple times and noting the reference and answer until it constantly repeated itself.

CastorTroy

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

Never, ever use a C120.... they stretch slightly as the tape is too thin and the games won't load!
C90's FTW!
And a clearly written index of tape positions!

Searching for level 2.... Found level 4. This actually sometimes enabled you to skip levels. I remember playing Street Fighter II on Spectrum. Multiple tapes and having to load each fighter and level individually, which meant looking through the tapes for them

CiDeRmAn

CastorTroy wrote: »

Searching for level 2.... Found level 4. This actually sometimes enabled you to skip levels. I remember playing Street Fighter II on Spectrum. Multiple tapes and having to load each fighter and level individually, which meant looking through the tapes for them

I had bailed on the Spectrum by then, I recall the otherwise excellent Spectrum version of R-Type needing multiloading and, no, I'm sorry, just can't do it.
Though it didn't look as good on the Gameboy at least there was no loading.
Must get an SD drive for my 48k Spectrum, give that puppy some use instead of gathering dust in it's box.

MilesMorales1

NX is supposedly finally gonna be revealed in September with a direct. Thank christ. Probably after the Playstation meeting where they're gonna announce PS4 slim and Neos.

we all know which is more important, Nintendo 4 life.

sligeach

Nintendo NX Rumors Tip Tegra X2 Specs With 'Metroid Prime 4' As A Launch Game

Nintendo NX rumors tout more details about the console’s specs and game library. The system may support a Tegra X2 processor to play launch titles like “Metroid Prime 4.”

A recent report from SegmentNext says that “sources close to the project” have told the outlet that NX might take advantage of the X2. Known internally as Tegra-next and Parker, the NVIDIA processor features the same four Cortex A57 cores as its predecessor. It differs, however, in that it also contains two custom Denver2 cores that support the Pascal architecture. Pascal is the exact same tech leveraged in NVIDIA’s high-end PC graphics cards.

Because the Tegra X2 remains so elusive, it’s hard to tell precisely how much of an advantage it has over the X1. At the very least, the X2’s reported 16-nanometer design should make its communication pretty speedy.

That’s an exceptionally good thing considering the top-tier games that NX is rumored to play. The latest talk of the town amongst fanboys is that “Metroid Prime 4” could be in the works. This much can be gleaned from the post-credit scene of the recently released “Metroid Prime: Federation Force” for 3DS. SPOILERS are coming, so those that don’t want to know should turn back now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pb7I82uQjY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pb7I82uQjY

During “Federation Force” players come across a Metroid egg that’s casually ignored in the plot. However, after the credits roll, a figure that appears to be Sylux from “Metroid Prime Hunters” watches as the egg hatches. In that 2006 title, Sylux is a bounty hunter that expresses an intense hatred for Samus. During E3 2015, “Metroid Prime” producer Kensuke Tanabe told IGN that "There’s still more I want to build around the story of Sylux and Samus. There’s something going on between them. I want to make a game that touches upon [it]." Around that same time, Tanabe also told Eurogamer that the next proper “Metroid” game would likely be on NX.

Given these clues straight from Nintendo, there’s more than enough rumor fodder to mess around with. Reports suggest that the NX could be revealed next month. In that case, “Federation Force’s” secret ending seems like the perfect introduction for a full reveal at the event.

Nintendo has officially said that the NX is expected to launch in March of 2017.

http://www.ibtimes.com/nintendo-nx-rumors-tip-tegra-x2-specs-metroid-prime-4-launch-game-2407282

MilesMorales1

We're nearly in September now, thank christ.

Pac1Man

I was trawling the websites at 00:01, January 1st.

"Come on Nintendo, it's 2016 now!"

MilesMorales1

You could go back in this very thread and find us saying this stuff on the first pages.

briany

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

It can also be call CD-R syndrome, if you are of a certain vintage

Have you seen the sad sack @tgames efforts to climb arthritically on the band wagon by trying to peddle the dire Megadrive plug and plays on the public?
You two can own dozens of classic MD games, played on a compact system that won't play them properly.
Oh, and they'll look sh1t too, via composite.

With emulation being as easy as it is, I'm surprised those plug and play consoles have any traction at all, particularly the crappy knock-off ones. At least the new mini-NES could thought of as having some guarantee of quality and connection to a tradition.

CiDeRmAn

I have a few plug'n play devices, from the excellent C64 one to the not so good Megadrive in a stick. The two Namco sticks are great except for the lousy composite video output.
But the current NES and MD ones are dreadful, poor efforts, terrible sound, slow gameplay, just bad stuff.
The NES Mini should correct the NES emulation impasse, and if the hackers get their way we'll have access to nothing but the great stuff.

sligeach

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

I have a few plug'n play devices, from the excellent C64 one to the not so good Megadrive in a stick. The two Namco sticks are great except for the lousy composite video output.
But the current NES and MD ones are dreadful, poor efforts, terrible sound, slow gameplay, just bad stuff.
The NES Mini should correct the NES emulation impasse, and if the hackers get their way we'll have access to nothing but the great stuff.

I've several times had to solder the Jakk's Plug n' Play Namco Ms. Pacman. It's the best iteration of the game. Runs like crud on Nintendo hardware. No excuse, I don't think there's one good Nintendo version that runs it well. It's bizarre because it's such a small simple little file, or so you would think. Ms. Pacman trounces the original Pacman but it wasn't first so it doesn't get the rightful recognition.

CiDeRmAn

Honestly,
If you really want to play such games, go the emulator route with a decent arcade stick.
Everything else, aside from a genuine arcade board in your cab, is just subject to compromise.

Andrew76

sligeach wrote: »

http://www.ibtimes.com/nintendo-nx-rumors-tip-tegra-x2-specs-metroid-prime-4-launch-game-2407282

So now it's Metroid Prime 4 along with an F-Zero sequel we might be getting? I might be winning the Euro lotto tonight, will believe it when I see it. Not sure why I still click into this thread, should be locked until we get concrete details from Nintendo themselves. :pac: