Nintendo Switch (Nintendo's next console)

CastorTroy

there's an event on June 29th? Or that just made up for the joke?

CiDeRmAn

Star Lord wrote: »

I'm the same TBH, that's kinda where I started from. Though I had thought they'd reveal prior to E3, for a release later this year, revealing later for a March release makes sense.

I have enough on the WiiU and 3DS alone to keep me gaming until the NX release, so the date isn't critical, but I always love a Nintendo hardware launch, so it's more that kind of disappointment.
Plus, it's the announcements, teasers and reveals that are fun, and Nintendo just don't seem to be interested in playing that role right now, maybe they've something else in mind?

I can recall the concern at there being no Nintendo presence at E3 years ago, but then they started running their digital events which, at times, proved even more electrifying than the other companies efforts because we, the online viewer, was a part of the action, or at least felt that way.

So, we'll see what is to be this year, and all my fingers and toes are crossed!

CiDeRmAn

On reflection.....
Thinking about the idea of an NX console with no physical drive and, seeing as we all end up downloading a games worth of patches and updates the first time we put the disc in, it would be just as handy to pop a cart the size of a 3DS cart into the console, itself consisting of little more than a key to unlock access and download the goodness, goodness you'd have to download anyway.

Continuing on this theme
It would then be simple if a handheld console was also part of the NX's future, to use these carts in that as well, either them containing the whole game this time, perhaps downloaded via the home machine or directly from the eShop, or just to the device memory from the eShop.
What could also be cool is to negate the need to open the online store at all and simply let the games download to the device memory in the background after a simple prompt.

DRM would be a simple thing to implement as well, with individual keys locked to the console though there is nothing to stop Nintendo instead locking a key to an account, so you could run the games from a limited number of owned and compatible Nintendo consoles or through phone apps.
Enjoying Mario Sunshine 2 on the NX, going on the move?
Well, play it on the NX Portable!
Don't own one of those or are without the device and on the bus?
Then play some Super Mario Sunshine 2 inspired minigames on your handset and earn coins to use in the main game....

Speculation through and through but, why not?

Only real problem is that the console would be an online only device, at least for the initial install, no game code is provided with the cart, but this is no problem for the modern user of Steam, so would it make that much of a difference to a console user?
As a collector of physical media I would be not entirely happy if Nintendo went full non physical on games, as you would be at the mercy of the online shop to make your game purchases available despite the years that might pass or the licences that might expire.

MilesMorales1

Honestly digital only is a deal breaker for me. Or would be rather.

sligeach

EA STILL WON'T COMMIT TO NX SUPPORT

The following comes from Patrick Söderlund, the executive vice president of EA Studios...

I personally and the company are huge fans of Nintendo, they're the reason why I started making games. We're in constant communication with them and when they come to market something - and if it makes sense for us - we'll be there.

We don't know if this is EA just playing coy and they have announcements to make at a later date, or we're just getting the same PR line that EA always offers up about Nintendo. I guess we'll find out sometime this year, won't we?!

http://gonintendo.com/stories/257413-ea-still-won-t-commit-to-nx-support

CiDeRmAn

No one has yet come out and shown off software for the NX, others have confirmed they are developing but not EA, but that doesn't really mean anything, not yet anyway.
Have they taken delivery of a dev system, wasn't there talk about that a while ago?
Anyhow, truth is there is bugger all news about the NX and that's the way Nintendo want to keep it for the time being, undoubtedly all dev machines are wrapped up in NDA's so tight they'd turn your nethers blue.

CastorTroy

So basically the vicious circle again. People won't buy the system because no third party support and there's no third party support because people aren't buying the system

Corholio

The funny thing about the EA story is that some other sites are reporting it as 'EA would commit to NX' rather than 'still won't'

Just how you spin words I guess.

MilesMorales1

I mean if NX is successful and sells more than PS4/XB1 or even is just relatively well selling, EA will be developing for it. So its not a lie.

CiDeRmAn

I know the NX needs EA support to do well, but I also know that, over the last 3 years, I haven't bought a single new EA game, and any preowned ones I have bought got tossed onto the pile of other unplayed and probably never to be played games.

I'm going to buy an NX no matter what and probably at launch too, and don't give a fig if Fifa17 or Medal of Honor: Does Anyone Still Care Edition aren't available for it.

MilesMorales1

Well no neither have I, or a lot of people who post in the Nintendo forum I suspect. But then we probably don't represent the average gamer that well, or the casual, to use a condescending term.

CiDeRmAn

Ah yes.
The casual gamer.
Who have a games library consisting of the following
FIFA
Assorted EA sports titles
Something shooty.

They also think Nintendo games are for kids.

They'll be first to the wall when the revolution comes.

Or, as found in a print of the Hitchhikers Guide that fell through a time warp from the future,
They were first to the wall when the revolution came.

Myrddin

CiDeRmAn wrote: »

They'll be first to the wall when the revolution comes.

That arrived ten years ago dude

sligeach

RUMOR - MORE INFO ON THE RAW POWER OF NX

The following info comes from Emily Rogers, who obtained info from 7 different sources...

- NX is not using x86 architecture like PlayStation 4 and Xbox One
- NX has special, custom-made chips
- overall design of the hardware is very modern
- chips are industry leading because they are very modern chips
- having modern chips doesn’t necessarily mean Nintendo is aiming to create the most powerful hardware on the market
- in terms of raw power, NX is much closer to Xbox One than PlayStation 4
- claims that NX is “two times the power of PS4 GPU” are not correct
- NX will most likely not compete directly with PS4 (Neo) / PS4K in raw power

http://gonintendo.com/stories/257664-rumor-more-info-on-the-raw-power-of-nx

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/so-about-nx/

I would hope those rumours aren't true.

cherryghost

It would be terrible, basically entailing that multi platform releases on XB1/PS4/NX are a no go, if the NX architecture is compltely ****ing different.

Star Lord

cherryghost wrote: »

It would be terrible, basically entailing that multi platform releases on XB1/PS4/NX are a no go, if the NX architecture is compltely ****ing different.

Kinda flies in the face of previous talk about porting being super easy and almost drag and drop... Unless their interpreters/compilers take the hard work out of that...?

MilesMorales1

I think we should safely assume at this point a lot of these leaks and stuff are total BS. Like all those leaks which were so sure NX would be launching this year :roll eyes:

Only genuine leak I've seen thats held up is that trev guy on neogaf, all his except for the zelda one have been spot on.

sligeach

More rumours, this time about the handheld side of NX.

Rumor: Nvidia Tegra chip to power Nintendo’s NX handheld

What we’ve heard thus far about NX – both officially and unofficially – has been about Nintendo’s upcoming console plans. But yesterday, prominent technology news site SemiAccurate published a report with claims pertaining to an NX handheld.

A subscription is required to read SemiAccurate’s full piece. However, we do have a couple of tidbits from the article.

Here’s one excerpt:

It’s new console time again and SemiAccurate brings you news of Nintendo’s NX silicon. If you recall our past guesses were pretty spot on and this time should be the same. You might also recall we made some pretty surprising calls on the console silicon front too, and this one will probably make most of you pick your jaw off the floor.

SemiAccurate goes on to say that the Tegra chip is being implemented in the NX handheld. After losing out on gaming contracts this generation, the Nvidia team was told to secure a console win or “go home.” Nintendo apparently made off well, which has SemiAccurate questioning if this is actually “win” at all for Nvidia. In fact, Nvidia is rumored to be taking a loss with the Nintendo deal after support, software, etc.

It goes without saying, but always take these reports and speculation with a grain of salt.

http://nintendoeverything.com/rumor-nvidia-tegra-chip-to-power-nintendos-nx-handheld/

http://semiaccurate.com/2016/05/12/guess-whos-silicon-is-in-nintendos-nx/

Myrddin

sligeach wrote: »

http://gonintendo.com/stories/257664-rumor-more-info-on-the-raw-power-of-nx

https://arcadegirl64.wordpress.com/2016/05/13/so-about-nx/

I would hope those rumours aren't true.

Unfortunately, those rumours sound very much like where Nintendo see themselves (not directly competing with the others). If they move away from x86, it'll be facepalm time because 3rd party support here is utterly essential if the NX is to not follow in the steps of the Wii U.

Andrew76

Here's another link mentioning it's going to use a Pascal based Tegra chip from NVIDIA: http://www.tweaktown.com/news/52119/nintendo-nx-powered-nvidia-tegra-processor-amd-chip/index.html. Although he also says to expect a full reveal at E3 - that's not going to be the case I thought though, we're getting nothing at E3 but Zelda?

Bloody better not turn out to be a souped up tablet in console form that isn't 3rd party friendly to develop for. Feck all use Nintendo pumping out way more games themselves if the extra output is made up of mobile like creations.

I was wondering about the handheld side of NX - did Nintendo themselves specifically mention a new handheld or are folks/'insiders' just assuming that because they are getting into the mobile scene too?

Argh so many questions! :pac:

Allyall

Remembering the "fusion" rumours a few years ago

http://nintendonews.com/news/general/nintendo-fusion-could-be-nintendos-next-gen-hardware-name/

sligeach

Kimishima comments on Nintendo movies, mobile, NX

http://nintendoeverything.com/kimishima-comments-on-nintendo-movies-mobile-nx/

I'd like to see a Metroid or Zelda movie. Kid Icarus could work too.

Star Lord

-It seems more to me that the NX will have an effect on the Wii U due to the fact that both will be consoles.

I suppose it can be seen that way. However, the NX is neither the successor to the Wii U nor to the 3DS. It’s a new way of playing games, which I think will have a larger impact than the Wii U, but I don’t feel it’s a pure replacement for the Wii U.

Interesting, but it does suggest there's something 'different' about the NX. Which, let's be honest, it wouldn't be like Nintendo if there wasn't something different about it.

Myrddin

When Nintendo say they've a new way to play games, tbh I get worried. They were at their best when they weren't obsessed with gimmicks. The above quote is kind of confusing, and they shouldn't be mentioning the Wii U in the same breath as the NX either...

MilesMorales1

Be funny if it was VR all along...


No ciderman don't mention the virtual boy.

CastorTroy

I guess it's their way of not admitting they've given up on the Wii U.. Like how they keep saying how they have a 3 pillar strategy

Myrddin

CastorTroy wrote: »

I guess it's their way of not admitting they've given up on the Wii U..

Sure they haven't...

A new way to play games that will have an effect on the Wii U....wtf does that mean

Star Lord

Myrddin wrote: »

Sure they haven't...

A new way to play games that will have an effect on the Wii U....wtf does that mean

I think he means the new console will have a knock on effect on the Wii U, but it's not a 'successor' to the Wii/Wii U as such. But obviously doesn't want to say too much.

Myrddin

Star Lord wrote: »

I think he means the new console will have a knock on effect on the Wii U, but it's not a 'successor' to the Wii/Wii U as such. But obviously doesn't want to say too much.

Maybe it's too early, but I still don't know what that means The only 'effect' a new console should have on an old one is backwards compatibility...what else is there??

Star Lord

Sales, people won't be buying Wii U or Wii U games as much once the NX is out...