Leo Again

Dia1988

Is Leo Varadkar gay?

skooterblue2

Dia1988 wrote: »

Is Leo Varadkar gay?

hmmm kinda ..... came out there last weekend. Depending on where you get your apples from it was voluntary.

Annasopra

fran17 wrote: »

Another example of shamelessly biased reporting from RTE,basically saying there is risk already there so hell lets just open the floodgates in the name of delusional equality.The amount of times he interrupted the man was embarrassing from our national broadcaster.
The only view I have been able to ascertain from the other side of this debate is yes,you are a homophobe if you disagree with homosexuality in any way,shape or form.
The facts always have and always will speak for themselves on this matter,lets just hope our minister for health acknowledges them.

Thats the thing Fran. I could take you seriously if your concerns were genuinely about the risks of the blood supply. But your concerns are clearly not. You've just admitted it. Its about your opposition to homosexuality.

floggg

skooterblue2 wrote: »

To be Honest Fran I found the Irish Times to be worse. As they "patched" the IBTS directors quotes together and came out with a different conclusion. The Haemophiliac Society are meeting with the minister tomorrow and the kidney Association are having their AGM the end of the week. I actually didnt realise that there are 16 of the original Haemophiliacs still alive. I wonder if they have opinions on the matter?
I have no problems with Gay men or women but I think the 80's and 90's are still fresh in other peoples minds. Plus luckily the Ebola scare was contained. I never asked questions about itor critised anyone. I just prayed for the poor souls involved in it

skooterblue2 wrote: »

hmmm kinda ..... came out there last weekend. Depending on where you get your apples from it was voluntary.

Are gay men at a heightened risk of ebola now too?

Tell me, where you get your apples from, do they think it was voluntary? Please do explain your thinking.

Also, care to explain your references to Agenda 21 and MK-NAOMI anytime soon?

fran17

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

Thats the thing Fran. I could take you seriously if your concerns were genuinely about the risks of the blood supply. But your concerns are clearly not. You've just admitted it. Its about your opposition to homosexuality.

Ah Joey the homophobia card has been played already,it just doesn't have the same effect second time around.The facts cannot be questioned,approx. 50% of all HIV cases come from 2.7% of the population(ESRI) and that is from gay men.That is the threat here,it's nothing to do with homophobia.You do accept these figures I presume?

Annasopra

fran17 wrote: »

Ah Joey the homophobia card has been played already,it just doesn't have the same effect second time around.The facts cannot be questioned,approx. 50% of all HIV cases come from 2.7% of the population(ESRI) and that is from gay men.That is the threat here,it's nothing to do with homophobia.You do accept these figures I presume?

No. I dont accept them. Theres 2 big problems with your fugures. 1 HIV statistics are counted on MSM - men who have sex with men. Not gay men. 2 Its true for the last few years that approximately 46-48% of new HIV diagnoses are amongst MSM. This is is for new cases. I dont know where your figure of 50% of all diagnoses is coming from at all. So no I do not accept your figures as they have 2 flaws.

jobbridge4life

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No. I dont accept them. Theres 2 big problems with your fugures. 1 HIV statistics are counted on MSM - men who have sex with men. Not gay men. 2 Its true for the last few years that approximately 46-48% of new HIV diagnoses are amongst MSM. This is is for new cases. I dont know where your figure of 50% of all diagnoses is coming from at all. So no I do not accept your figures as they have 2 flaws.

Those figures are still obscenely high. I'd rather Leo kept the ban and simultaneously launched a massive campaign targeting HIV and Aids in our community.

B_Wayne

fran17 wrote: »

Ah Joey the homophobia card has been played already,it just doesn't have the same effect second time around.The facts cannot be questioned,approx. 50% of all HIV cases come from 2.7% of the population(ESRI) and that is from gay men.That is the threat here,it's nothing to do with homophobia.You do accept these figures I presume?

You have in the past linked paedophilia and homosexuality so yep you're entirely motivated by homophobia...

fran17

jobbridge4life wrote: »

Those figures are still obscenely high. I'd rather Leo kept the ban and simultaneously launched a massive campaign targeting HIV and Aids in our community.

I agree,ignorance is a large problem and education is the key.That should be the longterm strategy and if the day arrives when the statistics change then the matter should be revisited.For the now,HIV rates have been rising since 2004.

fran17

B_Wayne wrote: »

You have in the past linked paedophilia and homosexuality so yep you're entirely motivated by homophobia...

Your just not going to stop assuming what people are thinking are you.I asked you again and again but to no avail...

floggg

fran17 wrote: »

Your just not going to stop assuming what people are thinking are you.I asked you again and again but to no avail...

Why haven't assumed anything. We have just read your countless threads and posts on the topic of homosexuality.

fran17

Joeytheparrot wrote: »

No. I dont accept them. Theres 2 big problems with your fugures. 1 HIV statistics are counted on MSM - men who have sex with men. Not gay men. 2 Its true for the last few years that approximately 46-48% of new HIV diagnoses are amongst MSM. This is is for new cases. I dont know where your figure of 50% of all diagnoses is coming from at all. So no I do not accept your figures as they have 2 flaws.

Well if you are correct on the gay men/msm issue,and I have no reason to doubt it,this makes the statistics even more frightening.Instead of a 46% per 2.7% ratio it could be as high as a 46% per 2% ratio or less.Do you agree that the IBTS are acting in the interest of society as a whole with this ban? Others have cast doubt on this.

B_Wayne

fran17 wrote: »

Your just not going to stop assuming what people are thinking are you.I asked you again and again but to no avail...

Nope, based on this. Have plenty of similar posts and much nastier ones too. Why such outrage for pointing out your general feelings about gay people? http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057363871/3/#post93892800

floggg

fran17 wrote: »

I would bare in mind post #37 B_Wayne.
Yes all of our posting histories are free to be shuffled through.I have said in the past that in the heat of debate there may be one or two things that were said in haste,but that's history.
It would have been very easy for me to open a new account but I believe that to reregister under an alias such as C_Kent etc. would lose any user all there credibility.

Haste as in the rush to jump to negative judgments and conclusions?

B_Wayne

fran17 wrote: »

I would bare in mind post #37 B_Wayne.
Yes all of our posting histories are free to be shuffled through.I have said in the past that in the heat of debate there may be one or two things that were said in haste,but that's history.
It would have been very easy for me to open a new account but I believe that to reregister under an alias such as C_Kent etc. would lose any user all there credibility.

It's a predominant theme in your posts though, not a heat of the moment thing hence everyone else making conclusions..

Kurtosis

fran17 wrote: »

Another example of shamelessly biased reporting from RTE,basically saying there is risk already there so hell lets just open the floodgates in the name of delusional equality.The amount of times he interrupted the man was embarrassing from our national broadcaster.
The only view I have been able to ascertain from the other side of this debate is yes,you are a homophobe if you disagree with homosexuality in any way,shape or form.
The facts always have and always will speak for themselves on this matter,lets just hope our minister for health acknowledges them.

What facts can you present to prove that the introduction of a 12 month deferral period for a man who has ever had sex with a man will result in more harm than benefit?

PopePalpatine

B_Wayne wrote: »

Nope, based on this. Have plenty of similar posts and much nastier ones too. Why such outrage for pointing out your general feelings about gay people? http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057363871/3/#post93892800

Let's not forget he thanked the first post in that thread.

Annasopra

fran17 wrote: »

Well if you are correct on the gay men/msm issue,and I have no reason to doubt it,this makes the statistics even more frightening.Instead of a 46% per 2.7% ratio it could be as high as a 46% per 2% ratio or less.Do you agree that the IBTS are acting in the interest of society as a whole with this ban? Others have cast doubt on this.

What? You dont seem to have a clue what MSM means. I have no idea where your 2% figure is plucked from.

cork guitar player

Leo is just another empty suit. Shameless attention seeking self promoter. I dont like his tendency to dictate how I should live my life either.

fran17

B_Wayne wrote: »

It's a predominant theme in your posts though, not a heat of the moment thing hence everyone else making conclusions..

Since your arrival on boards you have contributed to 13 threads and 8 of them have a gay theme.And in 1 other you introduced a gay topic into it.WHAT IS YOUR OBSESSION WITH ALL THINGS GAY!!!

Nodin

fran17 wrote: »

Since your arrival on boards you have contributed to 13 threads and 8 of them have a gay theme.And in 1 other you introduced a gay topic into it.WHAT IS YOUR OBSESSION WITH ALL THINGS GAY!!!

Don't go down that road Fran, whatever ye do.

Barry Edmonds

Homosexual men, bi sexual men and intravenous drug users should never be allowed to donate blood.

Timberrrrrrrr

A lot of lads with Narnian ip addresses by the looks of things.

Timberrrrrrrr

Barry Edmonds wrote: »

Homosexual men, bi sexual men and intravenous drug users should never be allowed to donate blood.

I know a lad who.is a pure slut, trawls tinder for hook ups and boasts of sleeping with ober a hundred women, he likes to go bare back as the jonnies annoy him, he donates blood on a regular basis.

I also know.2 gay lads from when we were in school, they are together since they were 20 (25 years next year, big party planned) and they cannot gibe blood even though they are faithful to each other

I know who i would like to get blood from and it aint tinder slut that's for sure.

B_Wayne

fran17 wrote: »

Since your arrival on boards you have contributed to 13 threads and 8 of them have a gay theme.And in 1 other you introduced a gay topic into it.WHAT IS YOUR OBSESSION WITH ALL THINGS GAY!!!

I believe in treating people equally while I'm not gay, I think it's a major issue when people such as yourself tend to view it as necessary to judge, denigrate them or even limit their rights.

PopePalpatine

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

A lot of lads with Narnian ip addresses by the looks of things.

Or from Russia, but that's pretty much the same thing nowadays.

Barry Edmonds

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

I know a lad who.is a pure slut, trawls tinder for hook ups and boasts of sleeping with ober a hundred women, he likes to go bare back as the jonnies annoy him, he donates blood on a regular basis.

I also know.2 gay lads from when we were in school, they are together since they were 20 (25 years next year, big party planned) and they cannot gibe blood even though they are faithful to each other

I know who i would like to get blood from and it aint tinder slut that's for sure.

Your gay friends are far more likely to have hiv though. And the major risk factor for a straight woman to contract hiv is to sleep with a bisexual man.

Timberrrrrrrr

Barry Edmonds wrote: »

Your gay friends are far more likely to have hiv though. And the major risk factor for a straight woman to contract hiv is to sleep with a bisexual man.

Erm

They are together 25 years one of them had one partner before they met and the other has only been with this guy. You do realize that heterosexual people can also get HIV from unprotected sex right?

Barry Edmonds

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Erm

They are together 25 years one of them had one partner before they met and the other has only been with this guy. You do realize that heterosexual people can also get HIV from unprotected sex right?

The chances of a non drug using heterosexual male of contracting hiv are tiny. A woman has a higher chance but only if she chooses to sleep with bisexual men.

the nikkei is rising

Leo needs to chickity-check himself before he wrecks his self, because ..... is bad for yo health.