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awec

awec wrote: »

Might be worth giving a go.

I tried protein shakes before and used milk. I found that instead of supplementing my normal intake from meals I was just eating less at mealtime cause I was still pretty full.

Nah, if you're trying to get bigger you need the milk, that's the main source of calories there!

Thoughts on peanut butter?

Things that have **** tonnes of calories for smaller portions are, nuts, nut butters, olives, oils, dried fruits, avocados. If you can sneak a fair bit of any of this into your daily routine without upsetting your normal meal plans you can easily add an additional 250+ kcals per day, which would add up to about 1kg of gained weight per month.

CatFromHue

Why would you use protein shakes if you're not exercising?

dregin

awec wrote: »

Might be worth giving a go.

I tried protein shakes before and used milk. I found that instead of supplementing my normal intake from meals I was just eating less at mealtime cause I was still pretty full.

Tried doing a weights program like the stuff mentioned above? I found I started losing weight as soon as I stopped working out last year.

Burgo

Deleted User wrote: »

Nah, if you're trying to get bigger you need the milk, that's the main source of calories there!

Can't beat a chocolate milk after a workout!

awec

Deleted User wrote: »

Nah, if you're trying to get bigger you need the milk, that's the main source of calories there!

Thoughts on peanut butter?

Things that have **** tonnes of calories for smaller portions are, nuts, nut butters, olives, oils, dried fruits, avocados. If you can sneak a fair bit of any of this into your daily routine without upsetting your normal meal plans you can easily add an additional 250+ kcals per day, which would add up to about 1kg of gained weight per month.

Peanut butter is alright. Used to try eat a peanut butter and banana sandwich every day in work.

awec

dregin wrote: »

Tried doing a weights program like the stuff mentioned above? I found I started losing weight as soon as I stopped working out last year.

To be honest no. Never been a gym goer.

Though we got a letter a few months ago from our letting agency to say they were opening a residents only gym in our apartment complex so I'll be checking that out. On-site means I can go when it's convenient.

LostArt

awec wrote: »

To be honest no. Never been a gym goer.

Though we got a letter a few months ago from our letting agency to say they were opening a residents only gym in our apartment complex so I'll be checking that out. On-site means I can go when it's convenient.

You should consider stronglifts linked back there a bit, it's only 3 workouts a week

awec

What's the deal with drinking water during the day?

Wang King

awec wrote: »

What's the deal with drinking water during the day?

Tastes better than Harp

.ak

dregin wrote: »

@ak is there any one book that goes through everything involved in weight training? Something that covers food as well as working out a training schedule. I've dipped below 15 stone in I don't know how long, but want to get up to 16 through weight training.

Honestly, I'm still very much a novice. I had some decent success in terms of weight gained and BF lost last season but between rugby and injuries I've gone backwards a bit.

I just found researching online did the trick in terms of nutritional planning. One thing I will say is I started off a bit too anal with things, weighing everything, measuring everything, writing everything down.. The problem with that is you get very annoyed very quickly and you feel your life is just measuring food, cooking food, work, and training.. Just learn about macros and there's plenty of calculators out there that will tell you what's required based on your weight/height/bodyfat/training routines. Simplify things so it doesn't annoy you. It's all about personalty at the end of the day - what emmet said about being geeky about things might suit some people but might turn other people off. It's about finding a middle ground. It helps if you do get a good handle of what foods contain in terms of macro breakdown. Like I know how carbs are in a scoop of oats etc, or the average bananna etc... You'll learn all that with time. But I'm probably not as strict as I should be.

In terms of beginning weight lifting start with 5x5 stronglifts, it's basically 5 main compound moves and they're easy to learn, just youtube them, record yourself and learn the form strictly, after all it's only 5 moves, so you should be able to perfect them. Do that BEFORE you start adding on the plates...

The strength forum on boards.ie is great, the guys there know their stuff and are very welcoming, check it out. Someone will be willing to give you tips on form if you upload a video of yourself too, which can really help.

molloyjh

awec wrote: »

What's the deal with drinking water during the day?

I go through at least 2 litres of water a day. Even went and got a reverse osmosis unit fitted to purify the water in the house. Great stuff that water.

Teferi

David Pocock has some good programmes on his website which he has used in the past. Good stuff from beginner to advanced and it's rugby specific which might be of interest to people around here. I needed a change up in programme after a few months and have picked up some of his training recently and it's been very refreshing for me.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

And with this post I've now come to the conclusion that you have a beard and are in fact some kind of Hipster variant.

molloyjh wrote: »

No beard, no hipster-ness.

molloyjh wrote: »

Even went and got a reverse osmosis unit fitted to purify the water in the house.

Bollox

.ak

CatFromHue wrote: »

Why would you use protein shakes if you're not exercising?

It isn't exclusive to training or anything. It's a food supplment. So guys use it when training because it's a cheap/quick way of getting protein into you at certain points in the day... but at the end of the day it's still food. The average shake is around what, 250kcal? So if someone like awec wants extra calories in his day for example.

.ak

awec wrote: »

To be honest no. Never been a gym goer.

Though we got a letter a few months ago from our letting agency to say they were opening a residents only gym in our apartment complex so I'll be checking that out. On-site means I can go when it's convenient.

Here's one way of looking at it. I broke my collarbone in feb, and lost 7kg whilst eating pretty badly within a month. Why? Because my muscle disappeared. Really the best way of building weight is training the muscle and feeding it.

.ak

Teferi wrote: »

David Pocock has some good programmes on his website which he has used in the past. Good stuff from beginner to advanced and it's rugby specific which might be of interest to people around here. I needed a change up in programme after a few months and have picked up some of his training recently and it's been very refreshing for me.

They look pretty good actually, decent routines for building recovery times too.

stephen_n

awec wrote: »

Might be worth giving a go.

I tried protein shakes before and used milk. I found that instead of supplementing my normal intake from meals I was just eating less at mealtime cause I was still pretty full.

It depends on what type of protein though, you need a weight gain formula one. ON nutrition have one that's 1200 calories per shake including essential fats, now you will feel full after it but one of those a day will probably help.

awec

stephen_n wrote: »

It depends on what type of protein though, you need a weight gain formula one. ON nutrition have one that's 1200 calories per shake including essential fats, now you will feel full after it but one of those a day will probably help.

Yea it was ON I was taking.

ON Serious Mass i think it was called.

.ak

awec wrote: »

Yea it was ON I was taking.

ON Serious Mass i think it was called.

Pretty impressive metabolism on you if you could drink 2 of those a day ontop of your meals and not put on weight. Those shakes are for serious mass builders or athletes who are looking to consume 3k-7k a day. Each shake is 1.2k. My daily intake would be about 2.2k a day to add weight and that's when I'm training hard 5-6 days a week.

I wouldn't recommend it tho, could not be good for you to put putting that much cals through your system if it isn't being delivered to your muscles. Get into some strength training, you might have the perfect metabolism to actually put on a decent frame, but not through diet.

awec

.ak wrote: »

Pretty impressive metabolism on you if you could drink 2 of those a day ontop of your meals and not put on weight. Those shakes are for serious mass builders or athletes who are looking to consume 3k-7k a day. Each shake is 1.2k. My daily intake would be about 2.2k a day to add weight and that's when I'm training hard 5-6 days a week.

I wouldn't recommend it tho, could not be good for you to put putting that much cals through your system if it isn't being delivered to your muscles. Get into some strength training, you might have the perfect metabolism to actually put on a decent frame, but not through diet.

It was just one a day.

But as I said, it wasn't on top of meals. In the end I found that I just ended up eating less because I was feeling more full cause of the shake.

CatFromHue

AWEC are you just drinking these shakes but not doing any exercise?

.ak

awec wrote: »

It was just one a day.

But as I said, it wasn't on top of meals. In the end I found that I just ended up eating less because I was feeling more full cause of the shake.

Ah, I wouldn't take those shakes then. They'll make Dwayne Johnson feel full.

Just take a regular whey protein shake with your meals. Blend in some peanut butter or nuts or avacado with them. But most importantly add in some sort of training, whatever you can, even if it's just 3 times a week and just simple lifts. You're into cycling as well aren't you? Try and get some of that done, concentrate on working gradients and really hit the quads.

awec

Aye I'm back on the bike now hopefully.

Could always get your hands on some Kalteen bars. They worked wonders for Regina.

stephen_n

awec wrote: »

Yea it was ON I was taking.

ON Serious Mass i think it was called.

Have you considered worming tablets if you didn't put weight on with that, I put on 3kgs the last time I used it.

awec

stephen_n wrote: »

Have you considered worming tablets if you didn't put weight on with that, I put on 3kgs the last time I used it.

Ha!

I tried taking it in the afternoon, tried the evenings and even tried at night just before bed (because taking it after all my meals was the only way I'd actually eat all my meals but I'm pretty sure before bed is bad).

The problem was it just replaced food rather than supplementing it.

It's tough stuff to drink. Half way down a flask of it and you feel like you've eaten three dinners ffs. I had to resort to basically opening my mouth and downing it all in one go before the feeling of fullness could even register!

.ak

Yeah that doesn't sound good. Basically drinking 4k a day... Before meals! Your body was probably doing its best to cycle through it, so probably not healthy, best stick to the normal whey and just tac it onto meals

stephen_n

I've put on nearly a kilo since Sunday Carbo loading lol I'll lend it to you when I'm done with it

Podge_irl

I've put on a kilo by drinking a bottle of wine and not peeing yet.

Wang King

Podge_irl wrote: »

I've put on a kilo by drinking a bottle of wine and not peeing yet.

I've put on a kilo just thinking about your bottle of wine