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Swiwi.

b.gud wrote: »

Try Bircher muesli, just soak your muesli in a mixture of apple juice and yoghurt overnight in the fridge. you can add some fresh fruit in the morning as well if you want

I HATE Bircher muesli, and I'm Swiss...

Clearlier

.ak wrote: »

Well it's also worth noting that dependent on your lifestyle you will require sugar. For example, if you train a lot, a carb loaded breakfast is a good option, and something that will break down and top up your glycerine levels that have been depleted over night. Just like most foods there are different sources, variants, etc. Same goes for sugar. General rule of thumb is refined sugar is bad, but sugar in carbs is not always bad. For example on a training day I'll usually have porridge, peanut butter and bananas with honey. But on a non training day that would be bad news... You do want some carbs in your breakfast tho, even if you're shredding or not training. Handful of oats in a protein shake or some fruit etc. because during the fasting period over night your body has gone to town on recovery and has depleted all sorts of stuff including glycerine.

Food is like a tool, you need to find the right stuff for the job.

Doesn't help when it's all so terrible delicious tho.

You don't need sugar in your diet. You do need fat, protein and various vitamins and minerals. Many of us would do better with fewer carbs in our diet.

b.gud

Swiwi. wrote: »

I HATE Bircher muesli, and I'm Swiss...

I hate bacon and cabbage and I'm irish

awec

I'm more of a Frosties / Crunchy Nut / cheerios man myself.

Haven't had frosties in a few years. Will have to pick up a box!

Synode

b.gud wrote: »

I hate bacon and cabbage and I'm irish

You need to hand in your passport. You can't be Irish and not like bacon

Synode

Porridge all the way. Use to hate it but now I have it every day. No toppings or anything added. Just plain old porridge

b.gud

Synode wrote: »

You need to hand in your passport. You can't be Irish and not like bacon

I like bacon, it's just the cabbage that I hate

I've been doing Overnight Oats recently.

In the evening, mix 30g of oats with 2 tablespoons of greek yoghurt until all oats are 'wet'. Add a teaspoon of ground linseed, and a fair amount of frozen raspberries and throw in the fridge overnight.

I make it in tupperware and bring it into work with me. Delish.

.ak

Clearlier wrote: »

You don't need sugar in your diet. You do need fat, protein and various vitamins and minerals. Many of us would do better with fewer carbs in our diet.

You definitely need carbs (carbs = sugar by the way) in your diet.

Whilst I agree that many people could do with fewer carbs (we're an Island raised on starchy carbs because of a temperate climate) there is also a lot of scare mongering going on out there on carbs. Even when you're shredding you will require carbs.

If you're seriousness about your fitness there will be a time when you require more carbs than proteins.

.ak

.ak wrote: »

You definitely need carbs (carbs = sugar by the way) in your diet.

Whilst I agree that many people could do with fewer carbs (we're an Island raised on starchy carbs because of a temperate climate) there is also a lot of scare mongering going on out there.

If you're seriousness about your fitness there will be a time when you require more carbs than proteins.

Sugar is a carbohydrate. Carbohydrates are not necessarily sugars.

Porridge was ruined for me as a child. When I was training it was wheetabix with usually a seed mix thrown in and a glass of wheetgrass juice.

Honestly, diet is hard to get right and easy to get wrong. But I think for a lot of people it's about discipline and just being consistent and importantly knowing that your will power will vary and that if you are going to get something unhealthy try and do it at the right times of the season and not the day after or of a serious work out.

Benefit of being a runner, even to be competitive at county level you need to train every day, twice a day a few times a week so carbs are less of a concern given your average daily workout is 1500 - 2000 calories.

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

Sugar is a carb. Carbs are not sugars.

That's not what I meant - the two are mutual however. You can't have carbs without sugar is what I meant.

Perhaps I was being too simple in my statement, but eating carbs is equal to putting sugar into your body because in most cases sugar naturally occurs in most carbs.

The idea of avoiding said sugars completely is a bad one, imo. You just need to know how much you require for what you want.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Porridge was ruined for me as a child. When I was training it was wheetabix with usually a seed mix thrown in and a glass of wheetgrass juice.

Honestly, diet is hard to get right and easy to get wrong. But I think for a lot of people it's about discipline and just being consistent and importantly knowing that your will power will vary and that if you are going to get something unhealthy try and do it at the right times of the season and not the day after or of a serious work out.

Benefit of being a runner, even to be competitive at county level you need to train every day, twice a day a few times a week so carbs are less of a concern given your average daily workout is 1500 - 2000 calories.

That's >3.5 hours of running! Are you sure?

.ak

.ak wrote: »

That's not what I meant - the two are mutual however. You can't have carbs without sugar is what I meant.

Perhaps I was being too simple in my statement, but eating carbs is equal to putting sugar into your body because in most cases sugar naturally occurs in carbs.

The idea of avoiding said sugars completely is a bad one, imo. You just need to know how much you require for what you want.

100g of Porridge contains 66g of Carbohydrates, and 0g of sugars!

awec

Deleted User wrote: »

Porridge was ruined for me as a child. When I was training it was wheetabix with usually a seed mix thrown in and a glass of wheetgrass juice.

Honestly, diet is hard to get right and easy to get wrong. But I think for a lot of people it's about discipline and just being consistent and importantly knowing that your will power will vary and that if you are going to get something unhealthy try and do it at the right times of the season and not the day after or of a serious work out.

Benefit of being a runner, even to be competitive at county level you need to train every day, twice a day a few times a week so carbs are less of a concern given your average daily workout is 1500 - 2000 calories.

Weetabix is alright!

Two bricks, cold milk over the top of them, bit of sugar and top and just eat it like that. Crunchy!

awec

Deleted User wrote: »

I've been doing Overnight Oats recently.

In the evening, mix 30g of oats with 2 tablespoons of greek yoghurt until all oats are 'wet'. Add a teaspoon of ground linseed, and a fair amount of frozen raspberries and throw in the fridge overnight.

I make it in tupperware and bring it into work with me. Delish.

What does linseed taste like?

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

That's >3.5 hours of running! Are you sure?

Not if you are averaging 5.30 - 6.00 mins per mile.

Last time I did an 18 miler with runkeeper (may not be the most accurate) I had over 3k calories burned (according to runkeeper)

awec

awec wrote: »

What does linseed taste like?

Sand. It's just for fibre. Very small amount needed.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Not if you are averaging 5.30 - 6.00 mins per mile.

Last time I did an 18 miler with runkeeper (may not be the most accurate) I had over 3k calories burned (according to runkeeper)

Jaysis! :eek:

Better you than me. I'd be more of a yogger than a runner in that case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6nFhcI4tgI

.ak

Deleted User wrote: »

100g of Porridge contains 66g of Carbohydrates, and 0g of sugars!

I did say most carbs.

The end result is the same however, carbs break down to glucose and blood sugar levels.

awec

Deleted User wrote: »

Sand. It's just for fibre. Very small amount needed.

Ha! You definitely sold me on that one.

Love a bit of sand I do.

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

Jaysis! :eek:

Better you than me. I'd be more of a yogger than a runner in that case.

It's all relative, If you were doing it every day for a couple of months / year it would start to feel normal. There is absolutely no requirement for anything other than normal genetics to be able to run 10 miles in 60 minutes, it's purely down to practice.

mfceiling

Is there anything to be said for a breakfast roll...

awec

mfceiling wrote: »

Is there anything to be said for a breakfast roll...

Bacon, egg and sausage soda wee man.

molloyjh

awec wrote: »

Ha! You definitely sold me on that one.

Love a bit of sand I do.

I'd use a flak seed and linseed mix which has some taste to it. I put a small bit in with the muesli and it actually works fairly well with it. Just a small but mind....

Deleted User

Deleted User wrote: »

It's all relative, If you were doing it every day for a couple of months / year it would start to feel normal. There is absolutely no requirement for anything other than normal genetics to be able to run 10 miles in 60 minutes, it's purely down to practice.

I ran a half marathon 2 years ago which I did train for, and my time was absolutely nowhere near 6 min miles. Closer to 10 than 6!

I have zero intention of ever doing anything like it again. IMO, middle/long distance running is an exercise only in stamina, pain thresholds and ultimately boredom.

LostArt

.ak wrote: »

If you're seriousness about your fitness there will be a time when you require more carbs than proteins.

Amen. Been following IIFYM for a couple of months now and the fat is practically falling off me despite taking in over 300 grams of carbs a day.

awec

I find running too boring. You are running along and all that's going through your head is how absolutely ruined you are!

Podge_irl

I have done a half (also closer to 10 than 6!) but I struggle massively to run for more than 45 min to an hour tops. Just find it tedious.

All I can say is that when you run enough, the act of running becomes immaterial to the experience. It probably feels more like driving and if you pick the right places to run it can be incredibly cathartic.

Nothing like running through trails and around mountains and just soaking it all in without actually worrying about getting tired.