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Cheltenham Festival 2015

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    #152
    Alba Frere
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    Vautour racing 2m3f Killiney on Sunday and UDS racing Irish Arkle so that settles that, Vautour will run JLT and UDS will go for the Arkle!


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    #153
    NaiveMelodies
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    Alba Frere wrote: »
    Vautour racing 2m3f Killiney on Sunday and UDS racing Irish Arkle so that settles that, Vautour will run JLT and UDS will go for the Arkle!

    I wouldn't say it definitely settles it tbh.
    Looking forward to seeing them both out though.

    On another note, big day for Don Cossack tomorrow!


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    #154
    Alba Frere
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    NaiveMelodies wrote: »
    I wouldn't say it definitely settles it tbh.
    Looking forward to seeing them both out though.

    On another note, big day for Don Cossack tomorrow!

    Yeah I was saying it more in jest but it is an interesting development.

    I think Don C will win tomorrow but I don't think he'll place in the Ryanair while I think CF will win the Ryanair or finish at least 2nd behind Dynaste.


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    #155
    Mountainlad
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    Alba Frere wrote: »
    Yeah I was saying it more in jest but it is an interesting development.

    I think Don C will win tomorrow but I don't think he'll place in the Ryanair while I think CF will win the Ryanair or finish at least 2nd behind Dynaste.

    Pipe making sounds like he's considering the Gold Cup for Dynaste (have him NRNB, really cannot see why he wouldn't go for it). With SS and SdG seasons still in serious doubt, and no other contender you'd have to wonder will Mullins go for the Champion Chase but I guess tomorrow will tell a lot.


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    #156
    sting60
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    Shemale wrote: »
    Thats very flawed sting, Congree didnt have a rival for a long time in his race whereas Silvianaco had top classes horses snapping at his hooves for the whole race.
    That is my point big time.we all look at races different but look at how conygee was eased based as a novice against the king George winner.3.98secs diff from last and de boynvile was taking the mickey,never asked him to lengthen. I still stand by assumption that the Lexus is far far better than the king George.I am aware that the experts say I'm totally wrong but I stand by my theory.


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    #157
    Gringo180
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    sting60 wrote: »
    That is my point big time.we all look at races different but look at how conygee was eased based as a novice against the king George winner.3.98secs diff from last and de boynvile was taking the mickey,never asked him to lengthen. I still stand by assumption that the Lexus is far far better than the king George.I am aware that the experts say I'm totally wrong but I stand by my theory.

    I backed Coneygreen myself that day. But De Boinville was flat out on him even tho he was a distance clear. He never once looked back to see how far clear he was and he didnt even notice his closest rivals falling until the last 200 yards.


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    #158
    sting60
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    I backed Coneygreen myself that day. But De Boinville was flat out on him even tho he was a distance clear. He never once looked back to see how far clear he was and he didnt even notice his closest rivals falling.

    I hope you got 33/1,a real player if soft IMO.Did we see a cheltenham winner today other than Mullins mare,IMO no big time.


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    #159
    redzerdrog
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    Has anyone got or know where to get a promotion code for Buying tickets to the festival on their website?


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    #160
    Volvic12
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    redzerdrog wrote: »
    Has anyone got or know where to get a promotion code for Buying tickets to the festival on their website?

    +1 - Appreciate if anyone has any codes? Few of us going over - looking to buy Club tickets for Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday - quite expensive.


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    #161
    Moon Dice
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    Any idea when the bookies go nrnb on all races?


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    #162
    zpehtsfd
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    Moon Dice wrote: »
    Any idea when the bookies go nrnb on all races?

    Bet 365 went NRNB on Sat 22nd February last year. Think they're always the first. GL


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    #163
    Dr. Bre
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    How seriously should djakadam being taken in the gold cup?


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    #164
    prettyboy81
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    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    How seriously should djakadam being taken in the gold cup?

    Very after today's demolition job!


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    #165
    Gringo180
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    Dr. Bre wrote: »
    How seriously should djakadam being taken in the gold cup?

    He looked a non stayer in the Hennessy to me.


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    #166
    BQQ
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    He looked a non stayer in the Hennessy to me.

    Mullins said after that race that it was a lack of fitness.


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    #167
    Gringo180
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    BQQ wrote: »
    Mullins said after that race that it was a lack of fitness.

    Sending a horse to a Hennessy thats not fit, dont buy that. He never said as much before the race. This horse will probably mop up a few rancid Grade 1 3 runner affairs over here but with a proper pace he will be found out.


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    #168
    BQQ
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    Sending a horse to a Hennessy thats not fit, dont buy that. He never said as much before the race. This horse will probably mop up a few rancid Grade 1 3 runner affairs over here but with a proper pace he will be found out.

    First run of the season, wouldn't be unusual to need the run. Probably counting on the fact that he was well handicapped to be enough for him.
    Stayed well enough today anyway.

    He may well not be good enough, but i don't think it will be because he doesn't stay.


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    #169
    Gregk961
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    Gringo180 wrote: »
    This horse will probably mop up a few rancid Grade 1 3 runner affairs over here but with a proper pace he will be found out.

    As far as I have ever seen grade 1 3m chases are generally very well contested over here, are they not?


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    #170
    Meath Centre Forward
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    I'd say all Djakadam does is stay and he probably has a touch of class. It's naive at best to think otherwise. Today was his fifth start over fences - he's only a 6yo - and he won the Thyestes on heavy ground off a mark of 145. The most obvious thing about the horse is he's improving and is probably going to be rated 160 approx after this. Anyone dismissing him must know something everyone else doesn't.


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    #171
    Meath Centre Forward
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    That's not to say I think he'll win the Gold Cup in 2015 but in a year or two, he definitely looks the kind of horse that'll be suited to that kind of race. But he clearly has a chance in an open renewal.


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    #172
    Charlie George
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    On his own won this with top weight last year and finished a sh second,djakadam has to be in the mix for this year and its a very open gold cup.


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    #173
    Gregk961
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    One I like for the Albert Bartlet, Blaklion, is running back at 3m tomorrow at Doncaster. Has performed well in 2 runs at 2m4f just not able to live with Parlour Games, who looks a good horse. Ran at 3m in between those races and looked like he might be a better horse over that distance (didnt beat much that day). Wouldnt be too keen on the 13/8 for tomorrow's race but will have a dabble on the AB at 11/1, if he puts in a good performance against some decent horses he could shorten quite a bit.


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    #174
    Mgoraf
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    i like him too Greg, especially over 3m which is definitely his trip. He has been on the go since September though thats why I'm a bit weary about backing him again tomorrow, think he should definitely beat this lot if he runs to form though.


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    #175
    Dr. Bre
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    pity the peace and co race not on ch4 tomorow. interesting to see if he as good as last time


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    #176
    ste2010
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    Value at risk running in the Neptune hurdle tomorrow. Like him for the big one in March. Hoping Dan Skelton has got some more out of him.
    Another severly underpriced horse tomorrow is Vago Collognes in the same race..his form is absolute muck to be be going on at 7's..don't be mad! On the opposite end of that scale is native river at 28's..way over priced..would be tempted for a forecast only tommy the scud missile is on him


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    #177
    Andalucia
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    ste2010 wrote: »
    Value at risk running in the Neptune hurdle tomorrow. Like him for the big one in March. Hoping Dan Skelton has got some more out of him.
    Another severly underpriced horse tomorrow is Vago Collognes in the same race..his form is absolute muck to be be going on at 7's..don't be mad! On the opposite end of that scale is native river at 28's..way over priced..would be tempted for a forecast only tommy the scud missile is on him

    value at risk looked real good last day.hope he backs it up

    Peace and Co is a non runner tmow.lame today


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    #178
    YoungKhalifa
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    What are the thoughts on Monksland's performance yesterday? Is he still a lively contender for the World Hurdle? I thought he ran pretty well and could improve a lot more between now and the festival. Pushed out to 16s which is a good price for him I think


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    #179
    Apollo_Creed
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    Andalucia wrote: »
    value at risk looked real good last day.hope he backs it up

    Peace and Co is a non runner tmow.lame today

    Where did you here that about Peace and Co??
    Not a word on twitter & bookies still pricing him...


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    #180
    corny
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    YoungKhalifa wrote: »
    What are the thoughts on Monksland's performance yesterday? Is he still a lively contender for the World Hurdle? I thought he ran pretty well and could improve a lot more between now and the festival. Pushed out to 16s which is a good price for him I think

    No. Why do you think he'll improve? Arguably lots of things fell right for him in that race and he still lost. Admittedly by a short head but still....

    He hurdled brilliantly; took lengths out of the Dedigout and Zaidpour at some of the hurdles. He had the benefit of a run so fitness shouldn't have been a problem. And he handled the ground.

    For me, he had no excuses and i'd be surprised if he's placed at Cheltenham.


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    #181
    yaboya1
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    corny wrote: »
    No. Why do you think he'll improve? Arguably lots of things fell right for him in that race and he still lost. Admittedly by a short head but still....

    He hurdled brilliantly; took lengths out of the Dedigout and Zaidpour at some of the hurdles. He had the benefit of a run so fitness shouldn't have been a problem. And he handled the ground.

    For me, he had no excuses and i'd be surprised if he's placed at Cheltenham.

    +1
    He was also receiving weight from most of the field. Can't see the Irish horses figuring at all in the World Hurdle.


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