Prince Andrew in jep?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118465562#Comment_118465562

About Mitchell - yes, that’s how I’m reading the accounts online also- but it was mean of her to publicly name him if nothing actually happened as his name is being mentioned a fair bit in online articles along with others. She also made a “mistake” in fingering a CEO of a hotel group when in fact it was someone different - TBH I actually don’t like her methods - and if the testimony is true from one of the Maxwell trial victims who said she essentially bragged about sleeping with Prince Andrew, then I like her even less.

Neyite

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118466266#Comment_118466266

You'd be surprised. For starters, all the other men in Einstein's black book would happily dig deep to help PA if they thought that it would help them get off the hook and him the sole fall guy. Then there's plenty of billionaires in countries where women are basically chattel, and white women are especially worthless and for whom a few million quid is sofa change for them. In exchange for getting in with some very elite and influential people. Al Fayed snr has been trying it for decades.

I agree though that the Queen will pay. If it was Charles or William deciding, I could see them being very unwilling to do it but there's still many who would happily pay Andrew's bills. They just won't do it publicly.

ohnonotgmail

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468427#Comment_118468427

but any influence will disappear as soon as the Queen dies. Charles won't feel any obligation to return favours for somebody who helps out Andrew.

Muahahaha

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118468427#Comment_118468427

I agree though that the Queen will pay. If it was Charles or William deciding, I could see them being very unwilling to do it but there's still many who would happily pay Andrew's bills. They just won't do it publicly.

Its been reported that the Queen is already paying his legal bills which will be running into several million at this point. Andrew also produced £6.6 million out of a rabbit hat just a couple of weeks ago to complete the purchase of his ski chalet in Switzerland- he bought it a few years back for circa £18m but the agreed deal allowed him to delay the final £5m payment until 2019. He didnt pay up that £5m until the owner brought him to court in Switzerland, by which time interest had turned the £5m into £6.6m. The owner of the chalet finally got her money out of him and she declared that "the war is over"

The Duke of York has settled a £6.6m debt with a French socialite allowing him to sell a Swiss chalet as he faces escalating legal bills over the sexual assault civil lawsuit brought by Virginia Giuffre, according to reports.

Isabelle de Rouvre, 74, who sold the property to Prince Andrew and Sarah, Duchess of York, in 2014 for a reported £18m, said: “The war is over. He has paid the money.”

Andrew and his ex-wife had agreed with Rouvre that Chalet Helora in the ski resort of Verbier in the Swiss Alps, would be paid for in instalments. But Rouvre claimed the two failed to make the final £5m instalment.

Initially Rouvre agreed the final instalment could be deferred until December 2019, with interest accruing, but the Yorks still did not honour the agreement despite repeated demands, it was reported.

Rouvre launched legal action in May 2020 in Switzerland to recoup the £5m plus interest owed to her. Andrew is said to have finally paid late last year.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/11/prince-andrew-sell-swiss-chalet

I think it is obvious that this £6.6m could only have come from the Queen as Andrew does not have that kind of money on tap. No one is asking questions right now but after the Queen dies the media will then seek to know if the UK taxpayer footed any portion of that bill. Between that and Andrews millions in legal fees a a freshly throned King Charles is going to be badgered with awkward questions about his brother.

What is interesting as well is the final £6.6m installment was paid so that Andrew can now sell the ski chalet. It was supposed to be left to his two daughters as their inheritance but now that plan is out the window. He is selling it not by his own choice but under duress which likely means there was an argument between him and the Queen who told him to sell it before she has to pay out any more money to him. It also means that Virginia Giuffrees NY legal team now knows that Prince Andrew is selling an asset that is worth £18m. Now that the trial is going ahead this is a game of high stakes poker and Prince Andrew has already revealed his hand.

kowloon

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Why white women? (genuine question)

Mummy’s cut the apron strings. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10399083/Veterans-demand-Queen-strips-Andrew-military-honours.html

”Prince Andrew was today stripped of his military titles and royal patronages by the Queen, who said he will have to face his sexual assault lawsuit as a 'private citizen'. 

Buckingham Palace said in a statement this afternoon: 'With The Queen's approval and agreement, The Duke of York’s military affiliations and Royal patronages have been returned to The Queen. The Duke of York will continue not to undertake any public duties and is defending this case as a private citizen.'  

The Palace said previously that the duke's military appointments were in abeyance after he stepped down from public duties in 2019. But, prior to today, he still retained the roles, leaving eight British regiments in limbo more than two years on. Prince Andrew was today stripped of his military titles and royal patronages by the Queen, who said he will have to face his sexual assault lawsuit as a 'private citizen'. 

The Duke of York will no longer be allowed to use the styling 'HRH' in any capacity, signalling the royal family's attempt to distance itself from the ninth in line to the throne as he faces a humiliating trial in the US.  

The move to shred his ties with the military is likely to be particularly painful for Andrew, a military veteran who served as a helicopter pilot for the Royal Navy during the Falklands War. “

bertiebomber

why just andrew? why not all of them the bill gates, trump clinton including Hilary the english polititions the bankers why is he taking the fall?

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469278#Comment_118469278

They are probably covered in the $500,000 agreement she signed with Epstein.

TheValeyard

He has lost his titles...

hahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahaha

fcuk him.

Be right back

About time. Odious man.

bertiebomber

Him & harry to biggest bolloxs to come out of the royal family both spares to the heir, no wonder Charles was raging when Diana had harry he knew the type of arse holes the spare develop into with no role in the future. |They should tell the spares they have to get a job and have to work only if the heir dies can they give up work. But no they let them ponce about from party to party and fanny to fanny. Well as a girl i am glad to say the fannies have truly messed them up he he he no more then they deserve.

Leg End Reject

I'm sure legal advice was sought before the outcome of Randy's attempt to have the case dismissed, and that this would have to happen if the case was going to court. It would be a PR disaster to have him enjoy all the privileges and titles.

He's looking even more guilty now. I can't wait to hear the medical evidence about his temporary inability to sweat and how he was in a Pizza Hut that didn't exist at the time.

Leg End Reject

anewme

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469338#Comment_118469338

Is it not a bit unfair to stick Harry into the same pot as Prince Andrew. Andrew will be in Court defending against a very serious allegation. There is no such allegation made against Harry.

Itssoeasy

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469179#Comment_118469179

In any capacity ? I know it’s the queens call but this drastic move has all the signs of Charles and William getting it done now and not having to deal with in a few years.

bertiebomber

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They both seriously lack judgement where women are concerned....both got fucked over by women and made fools of on the world stage.

anewme

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Ohh, those pesky wimmins are responsible! Terrible what a hussey can make a good man do.

I do feel sorry for the Queen in all this, wasnt Andrew her favourite son, she would want to believe him so removing his Titles must have been a tough decision.

bertiebomber

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i agree totally with you she is very sad tonight so much blight on her near perfect reign by these losers. They deserve to be on a chain gang breaking stones for a year to teach them some humility. Hussey's haven't heard that word in along time we are on the same page ha ha !

Penn

As someone on Twitter said, it's fairly telling that he's being stripped of his titles and stuff now only after the trial was given the go ahead, but before the trial even happens. They know the damage is done. Whatever hope they had of keeping Andy out of the public eye if it was determined the trial couldn't go ahead is gone. Now, he's being thrown under the bus. They'll support him financially, but they've very clearly pushed him out because whether settlement or trial, he's done.

I'd say they'll try settle it before any deposition can happen.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469314#Comment_118469314

THIS.

elefant

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This is an incredibly weird take - 'lack judgment where women are concerned' - on a situation where one of two people is accused of sexually abusing a teenager.

bertiebomber

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469766#Comment_118469766

yes any decent grown up married man with daughters would seriously question young girls being passed around for desert by aging wealthy gorgoyles, and Harry he is guilty of dragging some trailor trash into the house of windsor like a pedigree family pet cat bringing in a big rat to the drawing room.

For Forks Sake

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469314#Comment_118469314

The Artist Formerly Know As Prince (Andrew)

Panthro

Oul Randy Andy is absolutely up to his neck in it now.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118470166#Comment_118470166

About time too.

About time. I am a fan of the royal family but he is a disgusting human being. Everything you hear about him plays into that. Not just his dodgy friends and behaviours, but his unbelievable arrogance and entitlement. There’s no love lost for him across the armed forces. Contrast him to Edward (and Sophie)…..hard to believe they’re the same family.

Fathom

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/2057353663/prince-andrew-in-jep

It’s a civil case in America. Not a criminal case. So far. The defense will go through all the motions. Take time. Then settle without an admission of guilt. That’s my unqualified guess.

Zebra3

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118469787#Comment_118469787

A comparable couple of situations, all right. 🙄

ctrl-alt-delete

He won't be happy losing the titles, but sure with a bit of luck he might regain the ability to sweat.

Neyite

Interesting wording on the statement that he'll be defending this as a private citizen.

Sounds like they are trying to emphasise that it will be private wealth and not public funds that will fund his defence and subsequent ££ settlement. But also means that he can't hide behind diplomatic entitlements any more, doesn't it?

It's the only thing the Firm could do really. This has the potential to destabilise or topple the monarchy- it still does but at least this way they can point to distancing themselves from him.

Except it doesn't really go far enough. He's still a prince. He's still a Duke. He's still in the line of succession. He's still a HRH, but just not supposed to use it on his letterhead. He will still have this defence funded by the very best legal team thanks to the Queen. He can still offer massive amounts of compensation courtesy of the Queen's private bank account. He's still got his high military rank. He'll still live in a fancy tax-payer funded gaff on royal grounds, presumably still have royal protection.

Harry got a far less lucrative deal when he chose to leave the RF - and his only crime was he didn't want to work for the family business any more.