January Wildcard

8-10 · 01-01-2015 4:28pm

I'm going out tonight so if I'm playing it I'm playing it in the next 2hrs, which I probably will

FrClintPower · 01-01-2015 4:49pm

CSF wrote: »

I'm sorry but you're not making any sense at all here. Even if you had Bony/Jedinak/Toure in your team, what would be the benefit of playing it now instead of tonight after all the games have been played?

By the same token, if you're planning on playing it this evening what possible benefit is there in waiting? What could possibly happen in the meantime that would change their mind? ACON called off? Players becoming un-injured?

CSF · 01-01-2015 4:53pm

FrClintPower wrote: »

By the same token, if you're planning on playing it this evening what possible benefit is there in waiting? What could possibly happen in the meantime that would change their mind? ACON called off? Players becoming un-injured?

To play a wildcard you've to make transfers, take players out of your team. Most players in good teams have accumulated a .1 or 2 over the course of the season.

FrClintPower · 01-01-2015 4:58pm

CSF wrote: »

To play a wildcard you've to make transfers, take players out of your team. Most players in good teams have accumulated a .1 or 2 over the course of the season.

That's not an argument against using the wildcard though, that's an argument against transferring out players who you have value tied up in, which is an entirely separate argument which actually makes sense.

CSF · 01-01-2015 5:09pm

FrClintPower wrote: »

That's not an argument against using the wildcard though, that's an argument against transferring out players who you have value tied up in, which is an entirely separate argument which actually makes sense.

Most players have value tied up in them at this stage of the year. Certainly the African Nations players that people have would.

That aside, you're being offered an extra 10 Premier League games to decide on playing the wildcard and refusing it. All decisions should be made with the full picture, it's why we avoid transfers until the last possible minute, even though we know we are going to make them.

Those guys who transfer in on the first week of the game week, a lot of the time they get away with no impact. That doesn't make the decision any less poor. Different circumstances for sure, but the theme is the same. The good FPL players (and Lord knows Im not necessarily one) will make all decisions with every possible titbit of information available to them.

FrClintPower · 01-01-2015 5:15pm

CSF wrote: »

Most players have value tied up in them at this stage of the year. Certainly the African Nations players that people have would.

That aside, you're being offered an extra 10 Premier League games to decide on playing the wildcard and refusing it. All decisions should be made with the full picture, it's why we avoid transfers until the last possible minute, even though we know we are going to make them.

Those guys who transfer in on the first week of the game week, a lot of the time they get away with no impact. That doesn't make the decision any less poor. Different circumstances for sure, but the theme is the same. The good FPL players (and Lord knows Im not necessarily one) will make all decisions with every possible titbit of information available to them.

I agree that using all available information is important, but I don't agree that this means activating your wildcard now is always, or even mostly, a bad thing to do.

I have Bony, no value tied up in him, makes no difference if I axe him now, this evening or next week. If his replacement gets injured that's no problem, I can change it up again. I will still have all available information while the wildcard is active.

CSF · 01-01-2015 5:25pm

FrClintPower wrote: »

I agree that using all available information is important, but I don't agree that this means activating your wildcard now is always, or even mostly, a bad thing to do.

I have Bony, no value tied up in him, makes no difference if I axe him now, this evening or next week. If his replacement gets injured that's no problem, I can change it up again. I will still have all available information while the wildcard is active.

You're looking at it as a Bony situation, rather than a wildcard situation. If you scored 100 points today (or even very highly) you may no longer want to wildcard, you may consider it and decide you still do, but you should be giving yourself that decision to make, not putting yourself in a situation where you've no choice.

10 games in FPL is such a long time. The point is that if you're right in the decision that you were going to wildcard, you gain nothing, if you were wrong you lose out big time.

FrClintPower · 01-01-2015 5:29pm

CSF wrote: »

You're looking at it as a Bony situation, rather than a wildcard situation. If you scored 100 points today (or even very highly) you may no longer want to wildcard, you may consider it and decide you still do, but you should be giving yourself that decision to make, not putting yourself in a situation where you've no choice.

10 games in FPL is such a long time. The point is that if you're right in the decision that you were going to wildcard, you gain nothing, if you were wrong you lose out big time.

Fair enough, I'd agree with that last bit. But if you're absolutely, positively going to use the wildcard anyway (for example, if you have a few of Bony, Yaya, Jedinak, Yun, Moore, Wilson, Duff etc) then there's no loss.

CSF · 01-01-2015 5:35pm

FrClintPower wrote: »

Fair enough, I'd agree with that last bit. But if you're absolutely, positively going to use the wildcard anyway (for example, if you have a few of Bony, Yaya, Jedinak, Yun, Moore, Wilson, Duff etc) then there's no loss.

Ok agreed on that part, but in the interest of balance, even in those extreme circumstances you've mentioned, there's no benefit either.

FrClintPower · 01-01-2015 5:40pm

CSF wrote: »

Ok agreed on that part, but in the interest of balance, even in those extreme circumstances you've mentioned, there's no benefit either.

No benefit, no loss, everyone's a winner!

CSF · 01-01-2015 5:55pm

FrClintPower wrote: »

No benefit, no loss, everyone's a winner!

Exactly, and that's in the most extreme case. In more realistic cases its putting yourself at an unnecessary disadvantage, similar to making your transfers on the first day of the gameweek, it's just a pointless risk that nobody needs to take. Nobody benefits from doing it, some will suffer, others will get away with it.

spock. · 01-01-2015 7:16pm

Wildcard activated.

extra gravy · 01-01-2015 7:22pm

spock. wrote: »

Wildcard activated.

Tempted to do the same, fcuk this expensive defence craic.

dahat · 01-01-2015 7:23pm

Front line

Kane Costa Falcao. With cash for Aguero kept.

Midfield

Sanchez Hazard Silva Boyd Sterling

Defence

Terry Wisdom Cissoko Wassa (Leicester) O Shea

Goalkeeper

De gea + 4.0

Opinions?

Dont be at yourself · 01-01-2015 7:47pm

Pushed the button myself:

De Gea Murphy
Fonte Hutton Wisdom O Shea Chester
Cesc Sterling Walcott Sigurdson Erikson
Costa Aguero Kane

Those front 3 are no brainers for me. Would like to have Sanchez in for Walcott, but don't want to downgrade any others so I'll take the risk. Walcott is a FF demon when he's playing, so I'm hoping he will be a differential for me.

extra gravy · 01-01-2015 8:21pm

Playing around at the moment. Biggest decision is Fab+Falcao or Sterling+Costa. Spare money for Aguero then.

extra gravy · 01-01-2015 8:33pm

extra gravy wrote: »

Playing around at the moment. Biggest decision is Fab+Falcao or Sterling+Costa. Spare money for Aguero then.

Any thoughts on this? Think I might activate though I'll probably regret it tomorrow.

Gits_bone · 01-01-2015 8:35pm

Now a good time to play it to cash in on 10 day break?

CSF · 01-01-2015 9:07pm

Gits_bone wrote: »

Now a good time to play it to cash in on 10 day break?

If you're doing it this week, defo, lap up all the price rises and avoid the price drops.

Gits_bone · 01-01-2015 9:19pm

Why won't it let me use the Jan wildcard?

SantryRed · 01-01-2015 9:20pm

Gits_bone wrote: »

Why won't it let me use the Jan wildcard?

Make 2 transfers and it will light up.

dahat · 01-01-2015 9:47pm

De Gea or Lloris as the keeper?

extra gravy · 01-01-2015 9:50pm

dahat wrote: »

De Gea or Lloris as the keeper?

I've activated now and got De Gea in as he might rise tonight...not sure if I'll keep him though.

01-01-2015 9:54pm

dahat wrote: »

Front line

Kane Costa Falcao. With cash for Aguero kept.

Midfield

Sanchez Hazard Silva Boyd Sterling

Defence

Terry Wisdom Cissoko Wassa (Leicester) O Shea

Goalkeeper

De gea + 4.0

Opinions?

I really like it. Too much perhaps, as now I'm thinking about my shiny new wildcard...

spock. · 01-01-2015 10:42pm

First draft:

Panti Heaton
Terry Alderwiereld Wisdom Hutton Wasilewski
Sanchez ADM Hazard Sterling Boyd
Jovetic Costa Kane

Have enough to upgrade Jovetic to Aguero.What do ye think?

km79 · 01-01-2015 11:49pm

got drunk
activated

FutureGuy · 02-01-2015 12:41am

I think I'll wildcard, but not tonight. The only riser I'm interested in who I don't have is Hutton and he has very tough games in the next 4.

Fun fact: Kane is getting more NTI than the next million players combined.

PARlance · 02-01-2015 12:42am

FutureGuy wrote: »

I think I'll wildcard, but not tonight. The only riser I'm interested in who I don't have is Hutton and he has very tough games in the next 4.

Fun fact: Kane is getting more NTI than the next million players combined.

1 Million you say!!!!

sheroman01 · 02-01-2015 1:19am

Hmmm, did another draft and I'm very happy with it. Thing is, I'm left with 0.0m in the bank (team includes Augero dont worry). 2 Questions:

1. If I activate wildcard now, can I still make changes until 10th of January, yeah?

2. Should I activate it now to ensure I don't get f*cked over with price changes?

Cheers.

8-10 · 02-01-2015 1:31am

sheroman01 wrote: »

Hmmm, did another draft and I'm very happy with it. Thing is, I'm left with 0.0m in the bank (team includes Augero dont worry). 2 Questions:

1. If I activate wildcard now, can I still make changes until 10th of January, yeah?

2. Should I activate it now to ensure I don't get f*cked over?

Cheers.

Activate it at the end and the points hits won't apply

January Wildcard

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