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    #512
    whelan2
    Registered Users Posts: 29,357 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    just calved one there massive angus bull, got stuck on the hips


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    #513
    Nettleman
    Registered Users Posts: 651 ✭✭✭Nettleman


    whelan2 wrote: »
    just calved one there massive angus bull, got stuck on the hips
    AI, if so which code?


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    #514
    whelan2
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    Nettleman wrote: »
    AI, if so which code?
    own bull our breeding, sold him to a suckler man before christmas , pb aa


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    #515
    lakill Farm
    Registered Users Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭lakill Farm


    whelan2 wrote: »
    just calved one there massive angus bull, got stuck on the hips

    he will be worth a few extra euro compared to normal :D


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    #516
    whelan2
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    lakill Farm wrote: »
    he will be worth a few extra euro compared to normal :D
    yup :D


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    #517
    Reggie.
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    lakill Farm wrote: »
    he will be worth a few extra euro compared to normal :D

    :rolleyes:


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    #518
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Used mostly HE on the late calvers, the bull I used alot of has had his calving score rocket to 4 Ughhhhh. Next year I think it will be KYA all the way.
    we have had some big trouble with Herford's in the last few weeks so much so that only dairy breeds going to be used on all cows this year


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    #519
    trixi2011
    Registered Users Posts: 1,535 ✭✭✭trixi2011


    we had 94% calved in 6 weeks from planed start of calving, cant take any of the credit tho only started on the farm in sep,


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    #520
    keep going
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,551 ✭✭✭keep going


    Must con gratulate somecof ye on figures they are top class.i have 70 % at 6 weeks and been quiet this week but heres the thing im can of glad of the break gies me a chance to slacken the pressure on the calf houses and grass isnt that plentiful


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    #521
    grazeaway
    Registered Users Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭grazeaway


    Just in now. Checked cows about 11 heifer with the tail up so put her into the pen. Been watching her for a few days now. No sign of legs so handled her, calf down deep, upside down and 1 leg back. Managed to get the leg forward and the calf turned but no joy getting him it out. Had to call vet.

    Vet was working her for a good while before we managed to get the calf out, it had been dead about 12 hrs. At least the heifer was ok. It fairly bad having a calf die but having call a vet to get out a dead calf sucks too, at least we didn't have to section her.

    Ah well a few hrs sleep then back up at 6:30


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    #522
    Timmaay
    Registered Users Posts: 11,394 ✭✭✭✭Timmaay


    Had to jack out a big HE from a heifer this morning. She was in calf to the one serve to a fr. Will be a few words with the AI man ha.


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    #523
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Had to jack out a big HE from a heifer this morning. She was in calf to the one serve to a fr. Will be a few words with the AI man ha.

    How did he manage thar?
    I thought beef straws were in one flask and dairy in another


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    #524
    High bike
    Registered Users Posts: 2,417 ✭✭✭High bike


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How did he manage thar?
    I thought beef straws were in one flask and dairy in another
    shouldnt happen,its not rocket science ffs


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    #525
    whelan2
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    How did he manage thar?
    I thought beef straws were in one flask and dairy in another
    a farmer around here was having problems of the wrong breed of calf coming from ai , turns out the son was telling the ai man a different bull than what his father was


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    #526
    Greengrass1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,493 ✭✭✭Greengrass1


    whelan2 wrote: »
    a farmer around here was having problems of the wrong breed of calf coming from ai , turns out the son was telling the ai man a different bull than what his father was

    Oh Lord
    remember 5 yrs ago or so we lost a cow who was having this massive ch bull calf was supposed to be a fr.
    how Ai man managed to use wrong straw I don't know


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    #527
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,399 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Oh Lord
    remember 5 yrs ago or so we lost a cow who was having this massive ch bull calf was supposed to be a fr.
    how Ai man managed to use wrong straw I don't know

    Like to see him explain that


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    #528
    CowMeister
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    Greengrass1 wrote: »
    Oh Lord
    remember 5 yrs ago or so we lost a cow who was having this massive ch bull calf was supposed to be a fr.
    how Ai man managed to use wrong straw I don't know

    I was after calming down until I started reading this. Have spent the last 2 months calving elephants from cows. I dont know what breed he is but he certainly isn't fr.


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    #529
    Timmaay
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    a farmer around here was having problems of the wrong breed of calf coming from ai , turns out the son was telling the ai man a different bull than what his father was

    Ha happens here regularly also, my dad really doesn't like giving fr to heifers. Actually I wounder did the opposite happen here ha?


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    #530
    frazzledhome
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    CowMeister wrote: »
    I was after calming down until I started reading this. Have spent the last 2 months calving elephants from cows. I dont know what breed he is but he certainly isn't fr.

    Would have one wondering if the right fr bull is always used even when BW calf born.

    I couldn't recommend DIY ai highly enough. Milk, serve oad and get on with your day. No cows hanging around the yard


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    #531
    jaymla627
    Registered Users Posts: 6,583 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Timmaay wrote: »
    Ha happens here regularly also, my dad really doesn't like giving fr to heifers. Actually I wounder did the opposite happen here ha?

    Best one I heard was when a farmers son went and put jersey on a heap of cows the mother who was the boss thought they where incalf to freisian, nine months later she lost the plot when all these jersey bulls started arriving don't think the ai man ever got paid after


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    #532
    Greengrass1
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    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Would have one wondering if the right fr bull is always used even when BW calf born.

    I couldn't recommend DIY ai highly enough. Milk, serve oad and get on with your day. No cows hanging around the yard

    Our AI man is very good I must say now. Give him a text if you have nothing bulling and always in yard at 9am
    arm in and cow served no messing


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    #533
    whelan2
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    do you take the anti sucking device out of cows nose before she calves? its not the spiky one


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    #534
    Mad4simmental
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    whelan2 wrote: »
    do you take the anti sucking device out of cows nose before she calves? its not the spiky one

    Had the flap one on one here and I left it on. She licked the calf no bother.


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    #535
    Reggie.
    Registered Users Posts: 24,399 ✭✭✭✭Reggie.


    whelan2 wrote: »
    do you take the anti sucking device out of cows nose before she calves? its not the spiky one

    We leave them in


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    #536
    onyerbikepat
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    grazeaway wrote: »
    Just in now. Checked cows about 11 heifer with the tail up so put her into the pen. Been watching her for a few days now. No sign of legs so handled her, calf down deep, upside down and 1 leg back. Managed to get the leg forward and the calf turned but no joy getting him it out. Had to call vet.

    Vet was working her for a good while before we managed to get the calf out, it had been dead about 12 hrs. At least the heifer was ok. It fairly bad having a calf die but having call a vet to get out a dead calf sucks too, at least we didn't have to section her.

    Ah well a few hrs sleep then back up at 6:30

    Generally when you can't get at the calf like that, the calf is usually dead.


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    #537
    Miname
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    onyerbikepat wrote: »
    Generally when you can't get at the calf like that, the calf is usually dead.

    Had to push a brute back in yesterday like that. He was dead before I started but savage torture pushing back in against the cow and trying to turn the legs out.


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    #538
    CowMeister
    Registered Users Posts: 48 ✭CowMeister


    frazzledhome wrote: »
    Would have one wondering if the right fr bull is always used even when BW calf born.

    I couldn't recommend DIY ai highly enough. Milk, serve oad and get on with your day. No cows hanging around the yard

    It's after being added to my to do list. Who does the DIY ai training?


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    #539
    tanko
    Registered Users Posts: 9,238 ✭✭✭tanko


    CowMeister wrote: »
    It's after being added to my to do list. Who does the DIY ai training?

    Dovea and Progressive Genetics/Munster Ai definitely run courses and some other companies also do them I think.


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    #540
    Dawggone
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    Had vet at 3am for caesarean. A deformed lump that had no chance of a natural birth. I would stick up a photo but I think it wouldn't be right.


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    #541
    whelan2
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    Dawggone wrote: »
    Had vet at 3am for caesarean. A deformed lump that had no chance of a natural birth. I would stick up a photo but I think it wouldn't be right.
    was it full term or early?


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