2 NYPD cops shot dead in retaliation...

RobYourBuilder

Putinovsky wrote: »

And posters like you are using those actions to vilify an entire race.

Where? Examples?

IsaacWunder

GalwayGuitar wrote: »

So blacks are committing more crime than whites. Whose fault is that?

Blacks are more likely to be arrested and prosecuted even if crime rates are the same:

Black Americans were nearly four times as likely as whites to be arrested on charges of marijuana possession in 2010, even though the two groups used the drug at similar rates, according to new federal data.

www.nytimes.com/2013/06/04/us/marijuana-arrests-four-times-as-likely-for-blacks.html

RobYourBuilder

How many of the marijuana arrests are just add on charges to other crimes?

Putinovsky

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Where? Examples?

You've a convenient habit of consistently popping up in any threads involving immigrants or race related matters and making a litany of negative posts deriding the immigrant or minority race group that is at the subject matter. This thread is no different.

I would like to ask you something. I am not saying that you do think this but I would just like this clarified to get a better understanding. I would like it answered in a simple yes or no..

Do you think white people are superior to other races?

tipptom

coalburner wrote: »

Young black men don't need to change, that racist thinking is why there is so much tension

So Black organisations working in their own communities to try and help and change this culture especially through schools are just simple racists and the reason there is so much tension.
People with your attitude who attack people as racist because they try and change attitudes for the better are the very reason why the tension will go on for decades.

coalburner

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

How many of the marijuana arrests are just add on charges to other crimes?

And how many where planeted on the black men by these thug cops

RobYourBuilder

Putinovsky wrote: »

Do you think white people are superior to other races?

No, do you? Debate the issues and stop trying to smear. It's lazy and counterproductive.

coalburner

tipptom wrote: »

So Black organisations working in their own communities to try and help and change this culture especially through schools are just simple racists and the reason there is so much tension.
People with your attitude who attack people as racist because they try and change attitudes for the better are the very reason why the tension will go on for decades.

You are trying to change the culture of a group cause you don't like it, that racist, white men are inferior and just cause you cannot compete doesn't mean you can change the other group

Sand

IsaacWunder wrote: »

Blacks are more likely to be arrested and prosecuted even if crime rates are the same:

I'd say the higher marijuana related arrests are themselves related to the much higher policing of communities/areas with murder, drugs, assault, theft, rape and various "high profile" crimes. Police tend to go where the serious crime is. So kids that are involved in low profile crime, living in areas that do not have a serious crime problem will face less police attention than kids who are involved in low profile crime, living in areas that do have a serious crime problem.

There is also the question of if the marijuana possession charge was the *only* charge, or if it was just added to the list of more serious crimes?

Basically, your article just has a statistic. Jumping from a stat to a conclusion with absolutely no investigation or evidence to support it is pretty poor.

Putinovsky

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

No, do you? Debate the issues and stop trying to smear. It's lazy and counterproductive.

I am glad to hear that you believe that all races are equal and that white people are the same as black people. You certainly don't display that attitude in some of your posts so its good to hear you don't actually believe in racial superiority.

coalburner

Putinovsky wrote: »

I am glad to hear that you believe that all races are equal and that white people are the same as black people. You certainly don't display that attitude in some of your posts so its good to hear you don't actually believe in racial superiority.

Black men are greatly superior then white men, their women are trash though

Mod - Banned

Putinovsky

coalburner wrote: »

You are trying to change the culture of a group cause you don't like it, that racist, white men are inferior and just cause you cannot compete doesn't mean you can change the other group

I've a feeling that you're someone who is intentionally trying to get a rise. Another example of elements in after hours who are trying to stoke up racial tensions.

tipptom

coalburner wrote: »

You are trying to change the culture of a group cause you don't like it, that racist, white men are inferior and just cause you cannot compete doesn't mean you can change the other group

Ah,i see ok,sound.

Putinovsky

coalburner wrote: »

Black men are greatly superior then white men, their women are trash though

Bye now, I won't be surprised to learn that your IP matches one of after hours resident stormfront posters.

chupacabra

coalburner wrote: »

Where was the outcry for micheal brown

I think you'll find plenty of outcry in many cities in America over mike brown. My own opinion of it is that it was a tragic situation that could have been prevented with cool heads. Unfortunately there weren't many cool heads around that night. Garner situation deserved an indictment.

creolebelle

RobYourBuilder wrote: »

Did the shooter of the two cops not say that he was about to put "wings on the pigs" beforehand? Did he not reference the Brown and Garner shootings? Then, is not perfectly rational to look at the wider picture, i.e. Afro-Americans and their shaky, at best, relationship with the police and why that may be the case?

The shooter doesn't represent the views of any sane rational person. Yes the relationship btw the police and the black community is rocky but no one is calling for the death of innocent ppl. The majority of black Americans are asking for peace in their own communities

creolebelle

chupacabra wrote: »

As someone who has a close family member in the NYPD this really hits hard. This world is full of cowards.

I agree with this as a former New Yorker who is black with several relatives in the NYPD

chupacabra

creolebelle wrote: »

I agree with this as a former New Yorker who is black with several relatives in the NYPD

Thankfully the NYPD are a great family who will rally for these poor men's families.

coalburner

chupacabra wrote: »

Thankfully the NYPD are a great family who will rally for these poor men's families.

Did they rally for micheal browns family

chupacabra

coalburner wrote: »

Did they rally for micheal browns family

Michael Brown wasn't even from the same state :pac:

ireland.man

creolebelle wrote: »

The shooter doesn't represent the views of any sane rational person. Yes the relationship btw the police and the black community is rocky but no one is calling for the death of innocent ppl. The majority of black Americans are asking for peace in their own communities

The protest campaigns seem to be looking for justice first, before peace in their communities. Sadly I think tragedies like this will happen again and again until the police approach to black communities is reformed.

SeanW

coalburner wrote: »

Did they rally for micheal browns family

Why would families of police in New York "rally" for a thug 1000+ miles away (who himself tried to kill a cop)?

creolebelle

ireland.man wrote: »

The protest campaigns seem to be looking for justice first, before peace in their communities. Sadly I think tragedies like this will happen again and again until the police approach to black communities is reformed.

Police approach and gun control. The shooter in this case with his criminal record was able to obtain a firearm

Robroy36

ireland.man wrote: »

...police approach to black communities is reformed.

Black communities need to reform first, once that happens the police won't need to reform.

darkpagandeath

If Everyone was carrying a gun this would never of happened...... I have heard that somewhere.

ireland.man

Robroy36 wrote: »

Black communities need to reform first, once that happens the police won't need to reform.

If only the Catholic communities in the North reformed their culture of violence and poverty before violence broke out...

feargale

darkpagandeath wrote: »

If Everyone was carrying a gun this would never of happened...... I have heard that somewhere.

Jeepers, I see an opening for a new business venture, selling bullet proof vests.

Icepick

Filmer Paradise wrote: »

You'd think that now that Obama is in the White House, this persecution complex that a lot of African-Americans seem to have might have gone away.

Still very much alive & well with them, it seems. Sad really.

not sure if trolling or just stupid.jpg

feargale

Robroy36 wrote: »

Black communities need to reform first,

once that happens the police won't need to reform.

The Solution ( by Berthold Brecht 1898-1956 ) [ re. the Berlin Uprising 1953. ]

After the uprising of the 17th of June
The Secretary of the Writers Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the people
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts.

Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

Egginacup

Cop gets shot and killed. That's his job.
Soldier gets shot and killed or maimed ot mutilated. That's his job.

Why the outrage and fury?