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Ladies 10 round numbers 2015

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Just because you guys don't think you can manage it doesn't mean you can't still try. 3 years of these tables and not one has even tried to run a 400. Gradeds are welcoming meets. Tallaght tonight and Santry in 2 weeks time are the 2 400m races remaining.

    they may well be welcoming but I know how long it takes me to run 400 flat out and its no where near 70 seconds*


    *yet!


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Yeh blocks are mandatory for 400m. Wouldn't let that put you off though.

    It's the gun that scares me more.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    Firedance wrote: »
    they may well be welcoming but I know how long it takes me to run 400 flat out and its no where near 70 seconds*


    *yet!

    Sub 70 isn't a requirement to run though. And I can guarantee that you don't know how long it takes you to run 400 flat out, as unless you have shown up to a track and did just one 400 rep at max effort and left it at that, then you would probably run faster than you think. Basing your 400m potential off multiple 400 reps with short recovery (distance running session) is not accurate. Also race adrenaline is worth a couple of seconds too.

    Anyway, that's my sales pitch done. :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,009 ✭✭✭Firedance


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    Sub 70 isn't a requirement to run though. And I can guarantee that you don't know how long it takes you to run 400 flat out, as unless you have shown up to a track and did just one 400 rep at max effort and left it at that, then you would probably run faster than you think. Basing your 400m potential off multiple 400 reps with short recovery (distance running session) is not accurate. Also race adrenaline is worth a couple of seconds too.

    Anyway, that's my sales pitch done. :)

    very good sales pitch :) I've done a 400 race at the club before, it wasn't pretty :D but who knows what next year will bring...


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Firedance wrote: »
    very good sales pitch :) I've done a 400 race at the club before, it wasn't pretty :D but who knows what next year will bring...

    +1. I did a 400m years ago as part of a BHAA 'fun' :rolleyes: relay and it was horrific. My legs refused to co-operate at the end (full of lactic I guess ??) and I had to throw the baton at my team mate before I fell flat on my face over the line :o. Maybe next year if I find out how to train for something like this. And how to get out of blocks :eek:


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    If BG put 2 82 second laps back to back in an 800m on a grass track then a flat out 400 on tartan will be close enough to 70seconds if not under....

    The graded meets are very welcoming. I did a 100m in them a few years ago even though I had never used blocks before. There were plenty of people happy to explain to me how to use them (though I still f***ed it up). Getting the blocks perfect would be less important in a 400m.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,704 ✭✭✭✭RayCun


    I'd recommend trying an 800 or 1500/mile at a track meet first. Get used to racing short distances on a track (with a gun!) and see how you get on. If you want to go shorter then, and introduce the additional complication of a block start, cool, but it won't all be completely new


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    menoscemo wrote: »
    If BG put 2 82 second laps back to back in an 800m on a grass track then a flat out 400 on tartan will be close enough to 70seconds if not under....

    STOP tempting her, she's on a break.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    menoscemo wrote: »
    If BG put 2 82 second laps back to back in an 800m on a grass track then a flat out 400 on tartan will be close enough to 70seconds if not under....

    Thanks Meno, I wish, but it was only the first lap I did in 82, second lap was 89. Apparently positive splits are the way to go in an 800m although I'm guessing not that positive :o:o. Oddly enough I would have sworn the splits were closer based on perceived effort. I think my debut 400m described above was around 78 seconds so not sure how close to 70 I could get but I will try next year. Who's with me ?!?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 13,915 ✭✭✭✭menoscemo


    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    Thanks Meno, I wish, but it was only the first lap I did in 82, second lap was 89.

    oops, i was reading 2:45, not 2:51 :o


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Nothing to add to the table, but just checking in to say I ran 12.33 in a 2-mile race last night - new pb. Delighted!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Nothing to add to the table, but just checking in to say I ran 12.33 in a 2-mile race last night - new pb. Delighted!

    Well done! That's a great time, the 3K is a no-brainer for you then. Aalsa have a 1 mile/3K race series on the track once a month during the winter. Not sure when it starts but they'll be handing out flyers once the XC races start. I'll post up here anyway when I know the dates.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Name|400m<70 secs|800m<3min|1 mile<6 min|3k<12min|5k<20min|5mile<35min|10k<40m|10miles<70min|Half Marathon<100mins|Marathon<200min

    career move|||||19:36 |||||
    Bungy Girl||| |||| ||||
    HelenAnne|||5.55 ||19.46|34.24| |||
    Dubgal||2:45|5:52 |11:34|19:29|33:28| |69:28||



    At last, sub 20! Did it last night at the Grant Thornton 5k. Very flat course, very little wind, loads of groups to tag onto. I'm v pleased with that! Think I will quit while I'm ahead and retire from 5ks forever now :);).


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Brilliant HelenAnne. Well done. I've a PB but still not on the table.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    Congratulations, HelenAnne, that's a great achievement!

    No need to bump me off the table though :D. I'm sure as heck not doing another 5 miler this year :eek:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Name|400m<70 secs|800m<3min|1 mile<6 min|3k<12min|5k<20min|5mile<35min|10k<40m|10miles<70min|Half Marathon<100mins|Marathon<200min

    career move|||||19:36 |||||
    Bungy Girl||| |||34.56| ||||
    HelenAnne|||5.55 ||19.46|34.24| |||
    Dubgal||2:45|5:52 |11:34|19:29|33:28| |69:28||



    SORRY! I quoted an earlier version of the table before your 5-mile result! Sorry, sorry, you're back in!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,355 ✭✭✭Bungy Girl


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Name|400m<70 secs|800m<3min|1 mile<6 min|3k<12min|5k<20min|5mile<35min|10k<40m|10miles<70min|Half Marathon<100mins|Marathon<200min

    career move|||||19:36 |||||
    Bungy Girl||2:51| |||34.56| ||||
    HelenAnne|||5.55 ||19.46|34.24| |||
    Dubgal||2:45|5:52 |11:34|19:29|33:28| |69:28||



    SORRY! I quoted an earlier version of the table before your 5-mile result! Sorry, sorry, you're back in!

    Phew! Thanks for that. I've put the 800m back in too ;) Well done again on your 5K - Half marathon next for the table do you think ?


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    Congrats HelenAnne!!! well done... !!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,936 ✭✭✭annapr


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Name|400m<70 secs|800m<3min|1 mile<6 min|3k<12min|5k<20min|5mile<35min|10k<40m|10miles<70min|Half Marathon<100mins|Marathon<200min

    career move|||||19:36 |||||
    Bungy Girl||| |||| ||||
    HelenAnne|||5.55 ||19.46|34.24| |||
    Dubgal||2:45|5:52 |11:34|19:29|33:28| |69:28||



    At last, sub 20! Did it last night at the Grant Thornton 5k. Very flat course, very little wind, loads of groups to tag onto. I'm v pleased with that! Think I will quit while I'm ahead and retire from 5ks forever now :);).
    Bungy Girl wrote: »
    Phew! Thanks for that. I've put the 800m back in too ;) Well done again on your 5K - Half marathon next for the table do you think ?


    the 10k column is looking very empty BG and DG.... no pressure for saturday!


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    That's really great running Helen, well done! You're on a roll lately, long may it continue :)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,386 ✭✭✭career move


    Well done Helen. Great stuff :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Sadly people are saying the course was short. I'm on my iPad and can't copy the table, but I Will take 5k time off later, pending course approval &#55357;&#56832;


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Sadly people are saying the course was short. I'm on my iPad and can't copy the table, but I Will take 5k time off later, pending course approval ��

    Even if it was its mixed opinion and it's not as if you were borderline at 19:59, if it was short you still have a good buffer.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,272 ✭✭✭Dubgal72


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Sadly people are saying the course was short. I'm on my iPad and can't copy the table, but I Will take 5k time off later, pending course approval ��

    Leave it up Helen, it's all speculative. It's an AI course so it's good to go :)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Thanks all -- on reflection, after asking a few people, I'm going to accept the course length. I know there's a lot of speculation over on the event thread, but I asked a few of the top 20-30 finishers about it, and they were happy with the length, and they'd generally know almost by feel if it was short.

    So I'll take it, and try to replicate it soon as well! :-)


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,968 ✭✭✭aquinn


    Me again Helen, they've made us both faster so you've a bigger buffer. Can anyone explain why though?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Yes, the new time actually matches my watch better than the old, so who knows?

    Even if course is short, surely I could have covered another 100 metres in 17 seconds, so fingers crossed the 20-min monkey is really off my back!


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,695 ✭✭✭Chivito550


    HelenAnne wrote: »
    Yes, the new time actually matches my watch better than the old, so who knows?

    Even if course is short, surely I could have covered another 100 metres in 17 seconds, so fingers crossed the 20-min monkey is really off my back!

    17 seconds for 100m is around what I'd close the final 100 of an 800m in. 68 second 400m pace.

    Well done anyway. Good run.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Chivito550 wrote: »
    17 seconds for 100m is around what I'd close the final 100 of an 800m in. 68 second 400m pace.

    Well done anyway. Good run.

    OK, I couldn't do that, and who knows, it could have been 500m short for all I know! :)

    I'm taking it down, I'll try again soon! :)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,035 ✭✭✭HelenAnne


    Name|400m<70 secs|800m<3min|1 mile<6 min|3k<12min|5k<20min|5mile<35min|10k<40m|10miles<70min|Half Marathon<100mins|Marathon<200min

    career move|||||19:36 |||||
    Bungy Girl||2:51| |||34:56| ||||
    HelenAnne|||5.55 |||34.24| |||
    Dubgal||2:45|5:52 |11:34|19:29|33:28| |69:28||



    OK, I took the 5k off again. I'll try again on a less contentious course. It sounds from what Chivito is saying that I wouldn't have broken 20 if the course wasn't short. I'll try again after the Race Series half! :)


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