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Gameweek 14 Matchday Thread
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I don't know what to make of this season. I've had a brutal few weeks and am having a poor season IMO yet I've been flittering between 19k and 37k since GW8. In fact, in 4 of the last six GWs, I've been in the millionaire's club yet I still have a decent rank. Last night I scored only 15 points from six players but only fell 1096 places to 33058. I'm on 743 too so I'm only 13 points off 20k which I find very hard to believe given how my team are performing.
Every week when I look at people's teams I see them bringing in players that sites like FF Scout have recommended. Now I know there's always going to be a bit of that but even the most casual of players seem aware of these sites now and, while I do like them, they've taken a lot of skill out of the game compared to previous seasons.
I only follow boards.ie. It's served me well to this point
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Ultimate is the future lads. Embrace it
Easy for you to say in 13th! Wait until you can't crack the top 1k next year and you'll be fin stupid game FPL is way better anyway! Having said that UFPL is WAY better much prefer it maybe just because its different but the squad format is brilliant in my opinion.0 -
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I don't know what to make of this season. I've had a brutal few weeks and am having a poor season IMO yet I've been flittering between 19k and 37k since GW8. In fact, in 4 of the last six GWs, I've been in the millionaire's club yet I still have a decent rank. Last night I scored only 15 points from six players but only fell 1096 places to 33058. I'm on 743 too so I'm only 13 points off 20k which I find very hard to believe given how my team are performing.
Every week when I look at people's teams I see them bringing in players that sites like FF Scout have recommended. Now I know there's always going to be a bit of that but even the most casual of players seem aware of these sites now and, while I do like them, they've taken a lot of skill out of the game compared to previous seasons.Yeh there is so much information being made easily available to the casual now that it makes it a lot harder to gain any rank and now with sites like FFFix it will make it even harder there Assistant Manager thing makes it fairly pointless even playing why sign up just to let a formula run your team??Swiper the fox wrote: »I've always followed the watchlist and frisking the fixtures on FFS and I often make my transfers based on the latter. I personally think it's gone a bit mad now though and while I've only spent about five minutes in total looking at it I think that the FFFix site is not a positive development, if people have no interest in watching a little bit of football and making some decisions based on that then I really can't see why they bother playing the game. Watching football is supposed to be fun, reading or interpreting stats is a pain in the hole.
I think you're (far) overevaluating the impact of these sites. If you have no knowledge of the real game you can't perform long term in the fantasy game.
All the FPL dedicated sites are great information/advice/guidance but they're only a small part of the iceberg. And they can be misleading at times e.g. FFS weekly selection is a bit of a joke since it's often unaffordable (I never understood that), FFF transfers suggestions is pretty farcical too since it seems to only be based on the recent popular transfers and perf from the players. For me they're a useful addition to the game, that's all. For example, this year the price changes info is not as accurately detailed as it used to be and yet you're still finding these sites are taking away part of the skills.
If you really want more skills in the game, I think removing the doubling of pts for the captain would increase it since you won't be able to single-handedly save a GW from one standout performance and the building of a strong 15 men squad will be more important than now. If I look at my squad, I feel it's decent enough but I'm languishing outside top 200k at the moment just for my dreadful captains returns. I guess I'm 100 pts down only on captains pts from some of you here.
Also a 1m GW rank is not crap (last year I achieved a 1663 final rank and I calculated my GW average rank which was 636k so 1m is decent enough). We laugh here about the millionaire club and all but there are 3.3m players. Can't remember which site posted recently that there's about 30% inactive teams which means there's 2m+ active teams. Granted they're not as involved in the game as we are here but I'd say they still play it seriously enough. They would not pay attention to price changes, would not make mid to long term plans transfer wise, would not analyse the mid-term fixtures, etc... but would adjust their team before each deadline trying to beat their rivals in friends/work leagues. In fairness that's how I started to play before I got the FPL addiction virus
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Also a 1m GW rank is not crap (last year I achieved a 1663 final rank and I calculated my GW average rank which was 636k so 1m is decent enough). We laugh here about the millionaire club and all but there are 3.3m players. Can't remember which site posted recently that there's about 30% inactive teams which means there's 2m+ active teams. Granted they're not as involved in the game as we are here but I'd say they still play it seriously enough. They would not pay attention to price changes, would not make mid to long term plans transfer wise, would not analyse the mid-term fixtures, etc... but would adjust their team before each deadline trying to beat their rivals in friends/work leagues. In fairness that's how I started to play before I got the FPL addiction virus.
Every year more and more players play. When I started playing first there was just over 2 million people playing, so a 1m+ GW ranking was probably quite poor back then.0 -
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manual_man wrote: »For real? Thanks Kev. Did not know this Is it a free or paid game?
Options for both as far as I know0 -
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I'd love if the transfer deadline was always 30min before kickoff of the first match of the GW. We saw how much fun it adds to the game to know the lineups, and leads to all kinds of madness (16 point hits
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A lot of weeks it would just mean knowing the teams for the 12.45 kick off on a Sat but there are a fair few Saturdays with no early kick off and a later deadline there would be great craic0 -
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manual_man wrote: »Thanks i might check it out next season i'm a bit in over my head fpl-game wise a.t.m.
Lol likewise. Ultimate and FPL more than enough fore this season. Didn't even bother with CL fantasy football this season for the first time0 -
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I'd love if the transfer deadline was always 30min before kickoff of the first match of the GW. We saw how much fun it adds to the game to know the lineups, and leads to all kinds of madness (16 point hits).
A lot of weeks it would just mean knowing the teams for the 12.45 kick off on a Sat but there are a fair few Saturdays with no early kick off and a later deadline there would be great craic
Agreed. Requires more skill (and dedicaton) making decisions with the knowledge of starting lineups as opposed to blind decisions. Would mitigate the importance of making early transfers for price rises too which is a good thing IMO.
It would be annoying for weeks where you're busy the saturday morning though.
On your captaincy point I think there's far far too much weighting on captaincy but as you said its unlikely they'll change this. That one decision each week nearly outweighs the importance of your entire lineup, especially now as teams have become so similar. I think if captain was worth 1.5 and vice captain was worh 1.25 it would be better (despite the awkwardness of having quarter points).0 -
Interesting discussion starting with Lemlins post.
I agree with Iroced that the influence of FFS and FFFix is probably being overstated. There is nothing groundbreaking there, despite FFFix in particular dressing it up as some big secret formula. Their transfer recommendations are basically the player in the position you are switching who has scored best over the past few weeks. Sure that's what we'd probably call the definition of casual play. FFFix wouldn't have told you to bring in RVP for Costa for example, that took a special genius all of my own.
My being that other than the FFS members articles and stats these sites pretty much state the obvious. They might help a terrible player with no clue about football achieve a regular top 100k finish and be competitive in their work league, but they won't turn an average joe into a top player regularly in the top 5 or 10k.
I think interest in FPL is increasing with increasing overall numbers and therefore increasing numbers of more serious players who do a bit of research. But there are still loads of 'casual' players in all my leagues who don't know how their wildcard works, that midweek gameweeks exist, anything about price changes.
Regarding watching games I'd agree obviously that this is the best way to get a feel for players and team form, but many of us, the oul lads with small kids in particular, it's just not possible to watch a load of live games on a Sat/ Sun. I think having a good love of and understanding of football combined with watching MOTD and a bit of targeted research (match reports, FPL sites, FSA, stats) is a perfectly valid approach. It is certainly mine.0 -
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