**ALL THINGS IRISH WATER/WATER RELATED** Part 2 - MOD WARNING IN OP

Phoebas

Ghost Buster wrote: »

Hubert kearns and John Tierney s past performances are well documented as is Coleman Shanleys total lack of any qualification. Look what a wonderful job they continue to do.

If only you were on the interview panel to help them come to a balanced decision...

Ghost Buster

Phoebas wrote: »

If only you were on the interview panel to help them come to a balanced decision...

That's pathetic.

gladrags

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Phoebas wrote: »

What are you on about?
I quoted something that the GRA said. Do you dispute its accuracy?

Absolutely.

Given their track record.

Stargate

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Phoebas wrote: »

If only you were on the interview panel to help them come to a balanced decision...

Phoebas , unreal , seriously !!

Phoebas

listermint wrote: »

The facts and the court cases point to how poor said people where in their previous employment .

So I haven't the faintest what you are on about ....

And yet Irish Water came to an opposite conclusion.
Are we heading into CT territory here?

Highflyer13

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Its the arrogance of H Kearns that really gets me. Maybe its prevalent amongst the cronies. The man could see that he had done no wrong and felt as Sligo Co manager he deserved more than the Spanish pm. Pure delusional and thats why he needs to be turfed out. Its a ****ing dangerous mindset that only does harm to the country. It needs to be stopped.

Im sure hes not the only one with that attitude. He is probably just more open about it.

Phoebas

Stargate wrote: »

Phoebas , unreal , seriously !!

Sure I know. It would be totally mad to even consider that the people who got the jobs had any merit whatsoever.

What was I thinking....

Ghost Buster

Phoebas wrote: »

And yet Irish Water came to an opposite conclusion.
Are we heading into CT territory here?

That also is pathetic. Stop, it's embarrassing.

Stargate

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Phoebas wrote: »

Sure I know. It would be totally mad to even consider that the people who got the jobs had any merit whatsoever.

What was I thinking....

Tell me , on what merit did they get their high paid jobs , i'm dying to hear this tale.

gladrags

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Phoebas wrote: »

Sure I know. It would be totally mad to even consider that the people who got the jobs had any merit whatsoever.

What was I thinking....

Cronyism

Ghost Buster

Phoebas wrote: »

Sure I know. It would be totally mad to even consider that the people who got the jobs had any merit whatsoever.

What was I thinking....

So, do you have your own 'CT' that all the reports, articles and investigations into these guys are made up? Its al false and the entire population of sligo are implicit

Phoebas

Stargate wrote: »

Tell me , on what merit did they get their high paid jobs , i'm dying to hear this tale.

How would I know; I wasn't there.
The 'obvious' answer is that Irish Water deliberately hired unsuitable people, just for the sheer fun of it.

... or , ye know .. jobs for the boys, brown envelopes, yada yada >> ...

Phoebas

Ghost Buster wrote: »

So, do you have your own 'CT' that all the reports, articles and investigations into these guys are made up? Its al false and the entire population of sligo are implicit

The 'entire' population! Well that does change things somewhat. :pac:

Ghost Buster

Phoebas wrote: »

The 'entire' population! Well that does change things somewhat. :pac:

That's 3 words from the post, increasingly pathetic, why don't you stop.

dxhound2005

freddiek wrote: »

I find all the goodytwoshoes comments like "oh leave the poor workers out of it" tedious.

any hassle they encounter is acceptable collateral damage if the people defeat this government-imposed tax.

anyone complicit in the imposition of this unfair tax should feel the wrath of the people's anger and rage.

Whether its politicians, bigwigs or lads in hard-hats

they must be HARASSED.

HARUANGED.

CASTIGATED.

and BOYCOTTED.

The Gardai have batons and pepper spray and other means of intimidating the people.

We must do whatever necessary to destroy Irish Water.

Irish Water are currently hiring. Would you be interested in one of these jobs at all yourself?

http://www.water.ie/about-us/jobs/

Stargate

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Phoebas wrote: »

How would I know; I wasn't there.
The 'obvious' answer is that Irish Water deliberately hired unsuitable people, just for the sheer fun of it.

... or , ye know .. jobs for the boys, brown envelopes, yada yada >> ...

....i will just finish off the sentence for you

jobs for the boys, brown envelopes, yada yada >>Denis /Indo /IW /Cronyism /FG/LABOUR

Banjo String

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Phoebas wrote: »

A water management company previously administered at county level.

I don't find it odd at all that some people who have experience running the system when it was administered at county level got jobs administering it at national level.

I thought the fact they were establishing a water company was to take the responsibility away from local authorities, as they had been doing such a shoddy job with it up til now.

Unless Tierney, Kearns etc were some kind of bastions among the other managers......

moxin

I do not want to pay for water in any way

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Irish Water are currently hiring. Would you be interested in one of these jobs at all yourself?

http://www.water.ie/about-us/jobs/

Bonuses for underperforming, wow oh wow.

Ghost Buster

moxin wrote: »

Bonuses for underperforming, wow oh wow.

Phoebas will soon counter this with something like:
Oh yeah, how could they be under performing if they are getting bonuses ?

Banjo String

I do not want to pay for water in any way

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Irish Water are currently hiring. Would you be interested in one of these jobs at all yourself?

http://www.water.ie/about-us/jobs/

Any of them jobs pensionable?

Might be worth the punt..... Shortest drawn pension.... Ever.....

Satriale

I would like Irish Water as a company to be restructured

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Irish Water are currently hiring. Would you be interested in one of these jobs at all yourself?

http://www.water.ie/about-us/jobs/

Nice one.
Any chance you could get me a leg in?

dxhound2005

Satriale wrote: »

Nice one.
Any chance you could get me a leg in?

Yes of course. But just like anyone looking for a job or working in RTE has to prove they paid their TV licence, IW will need proof that you registered with them as a customer, if you want any of those jobs.

Cuttlefish

Phoebas wrote: »

I dunno about that. I see it all of the time in large companies trying to restructure; they pay expensive senior people big money to get rid of them and then hire them back, usually on contract but often permanent.
I'm not saying its a good thing; I'm just saying that its quite common.

I just don't find it odd that people who ran water systems in the past get hired to run water systems again and I don't think that the HR people in IW care a jot about the financial arrangements that exist between their employees and their previous employers.

Again it is all about optics… a fat salary and perks for years in local county councils etc then a big payout and walk into another fat salary and THEN….

Pay themselves bonuses for "could do better" ratings

It is the optics of it all

And why not employee someone from outside of the jurisdiction perhaps so no affiliation and otherwise?

foggy_lad

I do not want to pay for water in any way

sjb25 wrote: »

The women is an idiot and thinks she's being smart I seen it live you could see her smerking to herself thinking she's got a great joke going I would have voted labour but not anymore not with her especially maybe voting Sinn Fein not a bad idea anymore would never have before but now I'm thinking of it

Don't Do It!

There is nothing so bad that should make a sane decent person vote for murderers and scumbag career criminals who used the troubles as a cover for their intimidation, money lending and money laundering etc etc.

S.O wrote: »

Another U turn.



http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1106/657233-irish-water/

Not a U-Turn at all! That guy is one slimey sneaky fooker, what he proposes is finding ways to take the money from people who do not pay rather than cut the supply.

What he is saying is that if they cut the water then people are justified in not paying and most will reconnect themselves anyway so they will take it from a persons old age or disability pension or from their wages!

Cuttlefish

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

You are funny but not in a haha sort of way....

Hubert Kearns -

His 17 years at the helm of the worst performing council in the State cost the taxpayer €4.7 million for each year he served as the office holder charged with steering the county through financial and developmental success which would leave a legacy that generations to come would be proud of.

Instead he has left Sligo County Council on the tipping edge of bankruptcy where it cannot even obtain a required bank overdraft to ensure the continuance of vital services such as road maintenance, grants for upgrading the homes of the elderly and infirmed, verge and hedge cutting and a host of other standard day-to-day management duties of the council.

He has single-handedly left the moribund Borough Council powerless after 400 years of existence by his dictatorial stance of continued refusal to acknowledge his duties by convening the legally required monthly meetings with the elected representatives of the Borough.

A litany of shameful episodes, including the hiring of a monitor, at €1,000 for each meeting, to record the deliberations of the borough councillors was widely reported in the national media and ensured that Sligo was again ridiculed in the eyes of the Irish public.

When asked earlier by the media about the massive €80m debt incurred under his stewardship his reply was 'Nobody died'. This could change as more county roads have become a dangerous hazard because of negligible maintenance or necessary upgrades to housing stock, especially those occupied by the elderly, infirmed or disabled, being abandoned due to lack of funding.

On another occasion in his office when told he was earning more than the Spanish Prime Minister his response was, "I didn't realise the prime minister was earning so little".

Finally the most memorable indictment of Sligo's Local Authority came from the Minister of the Environment, Phil Hogan when last month he stated live on RTÉ's Prime Time that "Sligo is certainly one of the reasons we are reforming local authorities.''

http://www.sligotoday.ie/details.php?id=28328

Really Pheobas, do you honestly believe this man was right for a position in Irish Water?

What a damming article…

He earned more than the PM of Spain and was arrogant to make such a statement.

I remember hearing that Dev was earning more than the President of the USA at the time!!!


Why should he have a pension of 68K? and a lump sum of over 250K

There is something so wrong in this country and if Little CuChu and MaryAnne can't see the wood from the trees then you should have gone to…..well you know where

Tinkersbell

I do not want to pay for water in any way

Strawberry Milkshake wrote: »

You are funny but not in a haha sort of way....

Hubert Kearns -

His 17 years at the helm of the worst performing council in the State cost the taxpayer €4.7 million for each year he served as the office holder charged with steering the county through financial and developmental success which would leave a legacy that generations to come would be proud of.

Instead he has left Sligo County Council on the tipping edge of bankruptcy where it cannot even obtain a required bank overdraft to ensure the continuance of vital services such as road maintenance, grants for upgrading the homes of the elderly and infirmed, verge and hedge cutting and a host of other standard day-to-day management duties of the council.

He has single-handedly left the moribund Borough Council powerless after 400 years of existence by his dictatorial stance of continued refusal to acknowledge his duties by convening the legally required monthly meetings with the elected representatives of the Borough.

A litany of shameful episodes, including the hiring of a monitor, at €1,000 for each meeting, to record the deliberations of the borough councillors was widely reported in the national media and ensured that Sligo was again ridiculed in the eyes of the Irish public.

When asked earlier by the media about the massive €80m debt incurred under his stewardship his reply was 'Nobody died'. This could change as more county roads have become a dangerous hazard because of negligible maintenance or necessary upgrades to housing stock, especially those occupied by the elderly, infirmed or disabled, being abandoned due to lack of funding.

On another occasion in his office when told he was earning more than the Spanish Prime Minister his response was, "I didn't realise the prime minister was earning so little".

Finally the most memorable indictment of Sligo's Local Authority came from the Minister of the Environment, Phil Hogan when last month he stated live on RTÉ's Prime Time that "Sligo is certainly one of the reasons we are reforming local authorities.''

http://www.sligotoday.ie/details.php?id=28328

Really Pheobas, do you honestly believe this man was right for a position in Irish Water?

That's the standard of civil servant that makes their way to 'the top'.
Favours done, palms greased, promotions given etc etc...
Nothing to do with ability and everything to do with the way this 'nod and a wink' country works.
Tierney is the exact same, that's how these morons get the gigs.
It's the very reason irish water is failing.
What's really amazing is the amount of people on boards like this who defend them to the hilt. You really have to wonder why that would be the case.

masculinist

I do not want to pay for water in any way

dxhound2005 wrote: »

Yes of course. But just like anyone looking for a job or working in RTE has to prove they paid their TV licence, IW will need proof that you registered with them as a customer, if you want any of those jobs.

Are you serious ? You dont need a TV to work at RTE.

Creative Juices

Tinkersbell wrote: »

That's the standard of civil servant that makes their way to 'the top'.
Favours done, palms greased, promotions given etc etc...
Nothing to do with ability and everything to do with the way this 'nod and a wink' country works.
Tierney is the exact same, that's how these morons get the gigs.
It's the very reason irish water is failing.
What's really amazing is the amount of people on boards like this who defend them to the hilt. You really have to wonder why that would be the case.

I think it's Stockholm Syndrome. I really do.

drkpower

Tinkersbell wrote: »

Nothing to do with ability and everything to do with the way this 'nod and a wink' country works.

True in some cases no doubt, but the most convenient of excuses for those embittered by their own failures.

Stargate

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masculinist wrote: »

Are you serious ? You dont need a TV to work at RTE.

Or qualifications to work at IW .

PS , hey masculinist give us a thanks i wont tell anyone lol