Sinn Féin the most popular party in latest poll (mod warnings in OP)

mikom

Richard Hillman wrote: »

The new people that would vote Sinn Fein don't really seem the sort to read policies.

5 point plans and promises to quash quangos............ policies full of lies as produced by FG.

Godge

twowheelsgood wrote: »

It is all but impossible to say how much of this is genuine support for SF and how much is a protest against the government. We really won't know until there is a general election.

Very good point, when it comes close to the actual election, and people start thinking about what life would be like under Sinn Fein, the questions will start. And there will be no answers.

twowheelsgood

Godge wrote: »

Very good point, when it comes close to the actual election, and people start thinking about what life would be like under Sinn Fein, the questions will start. And there will be no answers.

Some of the giddyness on this thread might subside then. :pac:

maccored

I'd get out of the predictions business as this thread shows its not a strong point.

Godge wrote: »

Very good point, when it comes close to the actual election, and people start thinking about what life would be like under Sinn Fein, the questions will start. And there will be no answers.

Dyr

A month and a bit of the maria cahill accusations being milked for what little they can yield and the shinners become the most popular party in the state? Must be particularly galling when you were predicting that it would cause their support to plummet.

alastair

maccored wrote: »

I'd get out of the predictions business as this thread shows its not a strong point.

Given your unfortunate reading of the Ivor Bell news, I'd have said that you're not so hot on reading the present, let alone the future.

alastair

Bambi wrote: »

A month and a bit of the maria cahill accusations being milked for what little they can yield and the shinners become the most popular party in the state? Must be particularly galling when you were predicting that it would cause their support to plummet.

It just confirms their transfer toxicity.

alastair

Dan_Solo wrote: »

This is the same Enda who we've been told is running rings around Adams in The Dail? ;-)

That's the one. Mind you, he's carrying the handicap of overseeing another year of austerity, while the dear leader's mismanagement of things up north is less well known to the electorate down here. Still manages to run rings around Adams all the same, yes.

Dyr

alastair wrote: »

It just confirms their transfer toxicity.

The cahillgate has fallen! Fall back! Fall back to the toxicity barrier men!

A dark day for the children of Cruiser

alastair

Bambi wrote: »

The cahillgate has fallen! Fall back! Fall back to the toxicity barrier men!

A dark day for the children of Cruiser

Nope - just place more regard in bringing a rapist to justice, than protecting a corrupted political party. Strange that, eh? That's just one if the reasons why SF have about as much transfer appeal as Ebola.

Dyr

alastair wrote: »

Nope - just place more regard in bringing a rapist to justice, than protecting a corrupted political party. Strange that, eh? That's just one if the reasons why SF have about as much transfer appeal as Ebola.

Which rapist? The fella who was acquitted of rape after Mairia Cahill threw her soother out of the pram because the trial was'nt being run the way she wanted?

You'd want to be a bit more careful with those allegations horse

sid waddell

The delusion is staggering. Gerry Adams is constantly said to be an electoral liability to Sinn Fein. People can keep saying this until they're blue in the face, but it will never make it true, no more so than if I keep repeating that tomorrow is Friday to myself. The reality is that he's a significant asset, and rightly so, as he's done more to bring peace to this island than anybody else. That's something that resonates hugely with people (far more than anything Enda Kenny or any other Dail politician will ever be able to achieve) and will never be easily forgotten. The constant attacks against Adams only strengthen him - there's an element of Kenny and the Sunday Independent being the boys who cried wolf - their attacks have been so constant and have always amounted to nothing that people don't take them seriously. The Sunday Indo has been at this stuff for over 20 years when they were vilifying John Hume for meeting Adams. They've found themselves on the wrong side of history ever since.

Adams has led Sinn Fein from almost nothing in the 26 counties to being a party who now have a realsitic chance of leading the government within the next decade - it won't be after the next election but they will have a realistic chance in 2021 or so.

If that's an electoral liability, it's an electoral liability that every other party would love to have.

handlemaster

Sinn Féin are very good at milking every opportunity, y ou can bank on it they will bite the bullet been fired at FG and hope FG along with Labour end up in an unmarked grave.

Sinn Féin have one policy move and thats higher taxes.

LuckyLloyd

sid waddell wrote: »

Every Sindo/Denis O'Brien media attack on Gerry Adams and Sinn Fein reinforces Sinn Fein's core support and pushes more people towards them.

The likes of Eilis O'Hanlon and Eoghan Harris are toxic for anybody or anything they support, and manna from heaven for those they oppose.

If:

- pointing out that the IRA murdered people during the troubles;
- accusing Gerry Adams of being in the IRA and making a big deal of his denials;
- trying to maintain a link between SF and the IRA;

was effective SF would have been killed a long time ago. Instead, these people keep banging their drum / the same media outlets keep trying to throw dirt and SF keep making strides.

The strategy doesn't work, and has been consistently failing for 20 years. They are incapable of anything else.

LuckyLloyd

For those heavily involved in the Cahill thread - particularly those who forcefully pushed the idea that SF would be damaged politically by the scandal - I would love to know what you make of this poll? Are you surprised? Why do you feel the scandal is not translating through to the poll?

I'm genuinely interested to get your perspective.

Timberrrrrrrr

Banjo String wrote: »

Someone should tax you from posting that exact same claim over and over again

If repetitive posts were taxed then i fear you would be penniless and homeless within a week.

michael999999

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

If repetitive posts were taxed then i fear you would be penniless and homeless within a week.

Its alright though. He could join the british army and plunder other peoples homes in a number of areas all around the world.

delthedriver

Polls are................simply polls !

If SF were doing badly in the opinion polls , this thread would not exist:cool:

delthedriver

michael999999 wrote: »

Its alright though. He could join the british army and plunder other peoples homes in a number of areas all around the world.

Good Morning! What has the above comment to do with SF opinnon polls?

Timberrrrrrrr

michael999999 wrote: »

Its alright though. He could join the british army and plunder other peoples homes in a number of areas all around the world.

Something tells me he wouldn't fit in.

Banjo String

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

If repetitive posts were taxed then i fear you would be penniless and homeless within a week.

When someone makes a claim, then admits that they are talking from their rear end....

Banjo String wrote: »

So they haven't said it will be privatised.

That's grand so.

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

No, just part-privatised, and to what extent we don't know.
(Not sure if that's okey-dokey for SF supporters though?)

The main thing is that the troops know what the generals are up to.

We'll see if/when they flip-flop on the IW share issue.

Expect me to call them out on it.

Dan_Solo

delthedriver wrote: »

Good Morning! What has the above comment to do with SF opinnon polls?

As much as the post it was replying to which you of course had no problem with.
Selective much?

RandomName2

My name is URL wrote: »

http://www.rte.ie/news/2014/1101/656305-poll-politics/

What happened to the 'irreparable damage' that so many people were claiming to have been done to the party over the last 2 weeks?

What irreparable damage?

If you agree with bombing you're unlikely to bat an eyelid to anything else.

In other news "Irreparable damage to ISIS support following allegations of war crimes in Kobane"

Dan_Solo

RandomName2 wrote: »

What irreparable damage?

If you agree with bombing you're unlikely to bat an eyelid to anything else.

In other news "Irreparable damage to ISIS support following allegations of war crimes in Kobane"

So more people agree with bombing than last week?
People prefer ISIS to Enda Kenny sounds like the take home here.

RandomName2

Dan_Solo wrote: »

So more people agree with bombing than last week?

Nah, they don't care either way. They do care about water charges; hence the rise. Now, there are many other organisations which oppose water charges other than SF, but I suppose people want to identify with the most extreme of them when registering their discontent.

poteen o hooley

Finny Gale are DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED!!!

Only a matter of time before gov collapses.

If I was Lab TD I'd jump ship and join up with PBP or Uncle Joe Higgins and look for a new improved Socialist party after the election.

FG now plumbing depths of approbrium only previously investigated by pariah pioneers FF.

The rape of the poor by these multi pensioned abusers will not be bought off with packets of free water charges sweets.

alastair

poteen o hooley wrote: »

Finny Gale are DOOMED DOOMED DOOMED!!!

Only a matter of time before gov collapses.

Yep - next year at some point, and then we'll have a different FG-led government.

sonofenoch

Gerry Adams will head an Irish government in his lifetime.....it's his destiny

Rightwing

I said it before and I'll say it again. SF's hour is approaching.

FG have refused to make the hard decisions. Taxing people isn't hard. Setting up quangos isn't hard.

Reform the Public Sector. That's their challenge, and they are failing miserably. Then we read about farmers with hundreds of thousands in the bank and getting grants for college. Govern the country or go the way of FF.

SeanW

Will seriously considering emigrating if these tosswads get anywhere near power.

Pocoyo wrote: »

Non profit government factories that pay the living wage covering costs by producing goods or services.

They tried that, in Russia between 1917 and 1990 and in various other places and times. It didn't work very well.

ricero wrote: »

Sinn fein the peoples party

Like how North Korea, China, the Soviet Union were "People's republics?"

There a VERY big difference between people a "people's party" and a leftist party.