Women commenting on and rejecting men due to height

TheBeardedLady

AndreaCollins wrote: »

There have been many women who have got depressed at losing their looks and how their lives have changed as male attention got fewer and fewer. Laugh lines, forehead lines, eye lines, skin declining and so on. These have a devastating effect on a lot of women I've seen and generally it starts to kick in past 25. Past 35 its in full effect. This is life and we have to accept it and do the best with what we have but generally I think women who are 30 are nowhere near as attractive as women who are late teens/early 20s and I'm entitled to have that opinion. Of course you get the odd exceptions but even the best 30 year old will struggle to look as good as the best late teens/early 20s girl. I'm 19 and in my prime and loving it but I know that I'll age and I accept it.

Are you pretending to be a 19-year-old girl?

Shakespeare's Sister

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Are you pretending to be a 19-year-old girl?

Yes.

Penny Tration

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

Are you pretending to be a 19-year-old girl?

It's a pathetic ploy for him to try to discredit the female posters here.

TheBeardedLady

Shakespeare's Sister wrote: »

Yes.

Lolll


Hahaha!! I've had a few glasses of wine but that's the funniest thing to happen all day (my day has been uneventful, granted)!

Brilliant!

TheBeardedLady

green_screen wrote: »

It's a pathetic ploy for him to try to discredit the female posters here.

He's doing an amazing job; wouldn't have guessed for minute!

Penny Tration

TheBeardedLady wrote: »

He's doing an amazing job; wouldn't have guessed for minute!

Go back to your wine

Sauve

Mod

Can we get back on topic please?
Accusing a poster and attacking them on-thread is utterly unacceptable.
You're all around here long enough to know the deal.

bb1234567

AndreaCollins wrote: »

Blaming the companies is a bit like the chaps that were blaming McDonalds for making them fat a few years back.

No its not, cosmetics tell you youll get more attractive if you use their products, mcdonalds dont claim to be selling healthy food.

FunLover18

I've noticed this thread but never actually read it because it was something I hadn't noticed. But just today a female facebook-friend posted this photo. I'm sure it meant as a joke and it didn't offend me but it did strike me as odd. Maybe it's been posted before … anyway, as you were

AndreaCollins

Lack of respect for short guys. I wonder what would be the response from women if a guy put up a status saying "What do you call a woman over 10 stone? Friends" - He would get brutalized by feminists, but a girl can put up an image like that and it's all "ah sure shes joking hahahaha". A lot of guys wouldn't have the backbone to tell her that it's not on whereas you would get a lot of girls speaking up to the guy, and some white knights as well.

FunLover18

AndreaCollins wrote: »

Lack of respect for short guys. I wonder what would be the response from women if a guy put up a status saying "What do you call a woman over 10 stone? Friends" - He would get brutalized by feminists, but a girl can put up an image like that and it's all "ah sure shes joking hahahaha". A lot of guys wouldn't have the backbone to tell her that it's not on whereas you would get a lot of girls speaking up to the guy, and some white knights as well.

Bit of a difference between height and weight though. Now if a fella put up a a status saying "What do you call a woman over 5'10"? Friends" (as men tend to prefer women who are shorter) it might be more comparable.

newport2

FunLover18 wrote: »

Bit of a difference between height and weight though. Now if a fella put up a a status saying "What do you call a woman over 5'10"? Friends" (as men tend to prefer women who are shorter) it might be more comparable.

The real key difference about height and weight is that generally women are more sensitive about weight and men about height. Hence (for obvious reasons) some people say don't slag about weight, but height is fine to take the p1$$ about. At least a woman who is over 10 stone can do something about it, nothing they can do about their height.

Besides, your example of women being over 5'10" is not necessarily a negative thing, lots of women like to be tall. The one directed at men under 5'10" means something different.

DoYouEvenLift

Rosamund Pike - Dem legs!

Daveysil15 wrote: »

I've only really experienced this in online dating. A few women have told me out straight on dating sites that I'm too short. It's not very pleasant of course but online dating can be very superficial.

I've never some across that sort of bluntness in real life, but if I'm been completely honest, I very rarely get rejected. That's not to say I'm a stud by any means, but any conversation I've had with a woman on a night out rarely went beyond the shouting in someone's ear in a noisy club. So the convo doesn't really get to the point where I can get rejected.

At 5'8" myself, any women I've been with were about the same height or slightly taller. I remember many years ago some girls said they wouldn't go out with me because I was too skinny, (I was very slim in my teens/early 20's, but height has never been an issue outside of online dating.

Why would they even feel the need to give a reason unless it's something you could work on and take as constructive criticism. Wonder how many men will reject women bluntly with reasons like being too short or fat.

FunLover18 wrote: »

Bit of a difference between height and weight though. Now if a fella put up a a status saying "What do you call a woman over 5'10"? Friends" (as men tend to prefer women who are shorter) it might be more comparable.

Yes, the difference is height is totally genetic and weight is almost always not and is a personal choice, which was the main point of the thread. I wanted to question how some women can freely put down men based on a genetic trait yet those same women will lose their minds if a man put down a woman on something she most likely chooses to be.

ILikeBananas

I've been using on-line dating and it's quite common to see women specify a preference for tall men right in the middle of their profile. I realise that that's perfectly fine but it's still very demoralising (I'm 5'8). For what it's worth I wouldn't put a preference for slim women in my profile for fear of seeming superficial.

What's made it all worse in the past few years is that the younger generation (18-25) are definitely taller on average (both men and women) than the older generation. I'm 32 now and when I was in school and college there were plenty of guys the same height or smaller than me. Now though, whenever I walk past a gang of people in their late teens they're all towering over me.

reprazant

I'd imagine it is no different from lads not wanting to be with ladies that are taller than them. I wouldn't say that too many fellas want to step out with a lady that towers above them in flats.

Lucy and Harry

Rod Stewart never had a problem or Hugh Hefner or Tom Cruise.Its how you treat a woman that counts not your height.Women go for a nice face and sometimes a large wallet more than height.

newport2

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Rod Stewart never had a problem or Hugh Hefner or Tom Cruise.Its how you treat a woman that counts not your height.Women go for a nice face and sometimes a large wallet more than height.

Are you seriously suggesting that these guys had no problem with women because they treated them nicely?

Brussels Sprout

Lucy and Harry wrote: »

Rod Stewart never had a problem or Hugh Hefner or Tom Cruise.Its how you treat a woman that counts not your height.Women go for a nice face and sometimes a large wallet more than height.

He's 5' 10, so not short at all. He just gets lumped into the short-guy category because his wife is 6'1

Lucy and Harry

newport2 wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting that these guys had no problem with women because they treated them nicely?

''large wallet'' you forgot this part.:pac:

Galwayguy35

Mick Jagger and Ronnie Wood might still be virgins only they became rich and famous, they are obviously ugly men yet have had sex with countless good looking women.

yourdeadwright

I wouldn' be with a fat girl ,all it shallow if you like,
So i don't see the difference if a tall girl doesn't like me because im small that's life , im not going to get upset,

Penny Tration

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I wouldn' be with a fat girl ,all it shallow if you like,
So i don't see the difference if a tall girl doesn't like me because im small that's life , im not going to get upset,

I don't think it's shallow. Telling someone straight up that you won't date them because they're too short/tall/thin/fat/blonde/brunette, though, is nasty. No need to make the person you're rejecting feel bad

fits

Men's height is not something I ever thought about too much. Have no objection to the shorter guys at all, certainly wouldn't discount someone based on it. I'm short myself though.

yourdeadwright

green_screen wrote: »

I don't think it's shallow. Telling someone straight up that you won't date them because they're too short/tall/thin/fat/blonde/brunette, though, is nasty. No need to make the person you're rejecting feel bad

Ah god im not going to say im not dating you becasue your fat or whatever , Jesus id never say anything like that to anyone theres just no need at all,

RDM_83 again

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Mick Jagger and Ronnie Wood might still be virgins only they became rich and famous, they are obviously ugly men yet have had sex with countless good looking women.

Ok maybe they are not the best examples for my point because they are quite such notorious playboys but isn't the fact that as a guy you can influence how you are viewed be it via confidence,good personality, talent, wealth, actually a positive thing, yeah if your Derek Zoolander things are probably easier but while those lads wouldnt be meeting groupies if they weren't who they were they wouldn't automatically be social outcasts either

Mister Vain

ILikeBananas wrote: »

I've been using on-line dating and it's quite common to see women specify a preference for tall men right in the middle of their profile. I realise that that's perfectly fine but it's still very demoralising (I'm 5'8). For what it's worth I wouldn't put a preference for slim women in my profile for fear of seeming superficial.

It's true, and its not just the height either. I've seen comments like:

"No short arses."

"There are a lot of freaks on this."

"Lads try and be original for fcuk sake."

And so on. It's ridiculous when you think about it. They're actually denigrating men in the same place where they're trying to find one. I tend to ignore profiles like that.

kstand

I find it hilarious when some big heifer of a lady comes along with some story of having no luck with men or men not being interested because of the weight, then loads more will come on and tell her there's nothing wrong and she's meeting the wrong men and the men are judgemental or shallow to make her feel better. If weight is an issue and you are conscious of it, then go and do something about it instead of sitting round drinking wine and eating pizza and Chinese and feeling sorry for yourself.
In nature, there is a thing called survival of the fittest - and part of that process involves species searching out the best possible mate to procreate with, to ensure healthy offspring. I don't think it's any different, it's something we do unconsciously and that's the way it is.

FunLover18

Mister Vain wrote: »

It's true, and its not just the height either. I've seen comments like:

"No short arses."

"There are a lot of freaks on this."

"Lads try and be original for fcuk sake."

And so on. It's ridiculous when you think about it. They're actually denigrating men in the same place where they're trying to find one. I tend to ignore profiles like that.

I wonder how many of them have ever initiated contact. I haven't had a very long experience with online dating bit I've never had a girl message me first

DoYouEvenLift

kstand wrote: »

I find it hilarious when some big heifer of a lady comes along with some story of having no luck with men or men not being interested because of the weight, then loads more will come on and tell her there's nothing wrong and she's meeting the wrong men and the men are judgemental or shallow to make her feel better. If weight is an issue and you are conscious of it, then go and do something about it instead of sitting round drinking wine and eating pizza and Chinese and feeling sorry for yourself.
In nature, there is a thing called survival of the fittest - and part of that process involves species searching out the best possible mate to procreate with, to ensure healthy offspring. I don't think it's any different, it's something we do unconsciously and that's the way it is.

Yeah, definite truth in this post, thing is it's a harsh truth and the majority of people would rather not face the truth than actually challenge themselves to dealing with it, and this isn't just about weight and unhealthy habits, it's relative for a lot of things nowadays. People are top used to their comfort and getting everything easy and just don't want to bother with anything if it takes hard work. And those same people will put down others who are putting in the effort and hard work to make themselves feel better.

Anyway, there are obviously still a lot of men who are into fat/big (I won't say curvy as that word is completely misused and misunderstood nowadays) women and that's totally fine, but if it happens that the fat woman doesn't find any of those men good enough then she'll just have to admit to herself that if she doesn't make a change she'll have to settle for one of them. Women's friends seem terrible for fake reassurance like you describe, also. I've witnessed first hand a fat girl being told "oh men are shallow, there's nothing wrong with you, you deserve so much better" only for them to later talk about her behind her back and mock her. It's brutal. At least a lot of men have the balls to be upfront and honest with their friends and we thank one another for it because it helps us improve ourselves if we want to.

Roquentin

Yeah, definite truth in this post, thing is it's a harsh truth and the majority of people would rather not face the truth than actually challenge themselves to dealing with it, and this isn't just about weight and unhealthy habits, it's relative for a lot of things nowadays. People are top used to their comfort and getting everything easy and just don't want to bother with anything if it takes hard work. And those same people will put down others who are putting in the effort and hard work to make themselves feel better.

i agree with that. with irish society doing well and people having more success and financial independence, what they demand goes up. Ireland is becoming more americanized, more capitalist. Men and women alike are now looking down the road and saying when i am a certain age i want to have this, this and this.

Is this a good or bad thing. well it has its positives and negatives. For one economies do better. Secondly because people are more competitive, more technology or business is created. The negatives are obvious though. People will demand more and better.

Anyway, there are obviously still a lot of men who are into fat/big (I won't say curvy as that word is completely misused and misunderstood nowadays) women and that's totally fine, but if it happens that the fat woman doesn't find any of those men good enough then she'll just have to admit to herself that if she doesn't make a change she'll have to settle for one of them. Women's friends seem terrible for fake reassurance like you describe, also. I've witnessed first hand a fat girl being told "oh men are shallow, there's nothing wrong with you, you deserve so much better" only for them to later talk about her behind her back and mock her. It's brutal. At least a lot of men have the balls to be upfront and honest with their friends and we thank one another for it because it helps us improve ourselves if we want to.

thats generalizing. not all women are like that. You will always get people like that, men and women alike.

edit: having worked in both the professional and minimum wage environment, that type of behaviour in my opinion is found more often in the professional setting. Where i worked, men were jealous of other men and mocking them. women then didnt like other women etc. A lot of gossip was going on.

The minimum wage environment because everyone was on the same level was much nicer. Now there was still a bit of gossip, but it wasnt as competitive.