*******Motors Chat - Round 7*******

Bpmull

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

That's the norm nowadays. If someone places an order with us they have it the next day.

I don't really order many parts of them it's been a good while since I got anything of micksgarage. I kind of buy almost all the parts for my car of vw even though I know oem filters are as good just prefer all OE stuff infairness 6 quid for an oil filter of vw won't kill me 12.50 for an activated carbon pollen filter there reasonable enough infairness.

dgt

Bpmull wrote: »

Infairness I've seen plenty of golfs with the full gti kit 18 inch monza alloys, full front gti front bumper and grill, exhaust the whole works along way of a gti badge. Infairness people that just stick a badge on thats just stupid.

I'd call that gonky spec... Poor car with the smallest engine available, massive wheels to show teacup saucer brakes and the ride height un-altered (usually arse up like a donkeys cart) POWERED BY PIXIE DUST or LETS PLAY FOLLOW THE GTI sticker on the back to make an amusing looking abomination to normal people and a complete laughing stock to the rest

I saw one such abomination today, R32 TDI mk5, with twin R32 boooooo pipes..... Towing a cattle trailer :eek::eek::eek:

And the aforementioned is the reason why I like sleepers

Bpmull

dgt wrote: »

And the aforementioned is the reason why I like sleepers

I know a mechanic who drives a Laguna just as a car to tip around to work and stuff a 1999 one but it's mint he keeps it well but completely standard on the outside just very clean. It was 1.6 petrol engine went which he knew was coming so when it happened he put in a 197 Clio engine which he tuned up a bit before hand. So now he just cruises around and gets the usual young lads in there red DI badge diesel etc passing him and laughing and all that. So then he drops a gear and walks past them and the faces he loves it. It is seriously quick car though them Clio engine are well able to go.

colm_mcm

Bpmull wrote: »

Micksgarage has some quick service when it comes to delivery. I ordered a workshop manual and a few other small things late Monday night and the stuff arrived early Wednesday morning that's fair going.

I had exactly the opposite experience

dgt

Bpmull wrote: »

I know a mechanic who drives a Laguna just as a car to tip around to work and stuff a 1999 one but it's mint he keeps it well but completely standard on the outside just very clean. It was 1.6 petrol engine went which he knew was coming so when it happened he put in a 197 Clio engine which he tuned up a bit before hand. So now he just cruises around and gets the usual young lads in there red DI badge diesel etc passing him and laughing and all that. So then he drops a gear and walks past them and the faces he loves it. It is seriously quick car though them Clio engine are well able to go.

It's stories like this that make me miss the 406 gone are the days of embarrassing 330d's; today on the M1 I couldn't outpace a 1.9 A4, 125 unicorns isn't enough at times!

I'll need to pull my finger out and make another diesel sleeper

Bpmull

dgt wrote: »

It's stories like this that make me miss the 406 gone are the days of embarrassing 330d's; today on the M1 I couldn't outpace a 1.9 A4, 125 unicorns isn't enough at times!

I'll need to pull my finger out and make another diesel sleeper

I thought you'd have some mad plans for the merc to increase the power by 100% or is it only diesels you do the mad things too :pac:

pred racer

dgt wrote: »

It's stories like this that make me miss the 406 gone are the days of embarrassing 330d's; today on the M1 I couldn't outpace a 1.9 A4, 125 unicorns isn't enough at times!

I'll need to pull my finger out and make another diesel sleeper

Yes, yes you do :P

Dartz

MetzgerMeister wrote: »

That's the norm nowadays. If someone places an order with us they have it the next day.

Ordered Brake pads. Arrived te day after. Impressed by that...

Especially since Mazda called me right before I was going to order - following up on a service I had 6 months ago - and was supposed to give me a price for a brake replacement, but never bothered.

nd

colm_mcm wrote: »

I had exactly the opposite experience

Have made 3 orders now myself and have got all within two days.

nd

Speaking of which these arrived today



looking forward to fitting them.

Marcusm

To hell with your brake discs, that's a very nice floor.

What a waste of post 4,000.

Stheno

El Bella Italiano has adapted to the cold and behaved normally today

Need two new tyres, gonna check out prices this weekend

Bpmull

It's amazing how you see stuff you sold years ago pop up on donedeal. Just spotted this a van my dad had and sold in around 2011. Probably sold now that was a great van when he sold it.

http://www.donedeal.ie/commercials-for-sale/toyota-corolla-van-for-sale/7574916

dgt

Bpmull wrote: »

I thought you'd have some mad plans for the merc to increase the power by 100% or is it only diesels you do the mad things too :pac:

I'll take a mad fit someday, I have a moderate sized turbo/300cc injectors/microcontroller lying about :P

But first I need to sort the trashed clutch, bit too much diffin miles on it at this stage, begining to slip on full power, where the fun is

At near €350 for a stage 2 clutch, that can wait for now while other things are seen to....

Simonigs1.0

Marcusm wrote: »

To hell with your brake discs, that's a very nice floor.

What a waste of post 4,000.

Agreed, I'm a sucker for a nice wood flooring like that.

dgt

Simonigs1.0 wrote: »

Agreed, I'm a sucker for a nice wood flooring like that.

Semi solid flooring does it for me too

Can I run this by ye guys, for an opinion or two?

I have the 407 about 4-5 months now I'd say. Since day one, it's had a bit of trouble turning over in the mornings. It only ever seems to happen in the mornings (after it's been lying up for the night).

In the Rav, I used to get in, turn the key to start the ignition, it'd turn over, and away with me. I'm lead to believe on a Diesel it's good to switch the key in the ignition to light up the display, etc. before actually turning the car over (apparently you should wait about 10 seconds before you turn the car over?).


Anyway, I didn't know this (and I'm still not sure if it's a myth or not) so was regularly met with the car turning over and instantly dying.

For example, I get in, turn the car over, and it dies. Do it a second time, and it dies. Do it a third time and it starts up without a bother, and doesn't give another ounce of trouble.

Leaving the dash illuminated for about 10 secs has helped a tad, but that could all just be in my head either.

Thing is, it's only in the mornings. Even after a short spin it won't happen. This morning I went out to the car, (left the dash on for about 5 secs) and it died once and started on the second go. I drove for about 30 minutes, then left the car lying up for 10 hours. When I went out to it after the 10 hours, it started without a moments hesitation (left the dash on for about 5 secs again though).


I'm bewildered by it, to be completely honest.

Maybe it's just not a 'morning' car? :P

toastedpickles

Nah my cars a petrol and does the same, but then again, its half buggered anyways

Bpmull

@kkv it's not a myth about leaving the car a few seconds before turning it over. This is because the heater plugs need a few seconds to heat the diesel up you'll see a yellow warning light that looks like a coil when that goes off then you can turn the car over.

What do you mean as in the car dies when you turn it over first and second time it should just keep turning over until it starts. Are you saying that if you hold the key it turns over a few times and then stops and you have to try it again that would sound like a fcuked battery. Your wasting your time trying to start a cold diesel with anything other than a proper battery that's a 100% otherwise you'll be cranking forever.

Special Circumstances

[Deleted User] wrote: »

In the Rav, I used to get in, turn the key to start the ignition, it'd turn over, and away with me. I'm lead to believe on a Diesel it's good to switch the key in the ignition to light up the display, etc. before actually turning the car over (apparently you should wait about 10 seconds before you turn the car over?).


Anyway, I didn't know this (and I'm still not sure if it's a myth or not) so was regularly met with the car turning over and instantly dying.

Some (many? Most? ) modern diesels implement some intelligent stuff so that the pumps are being primed and glow plugs heating before your behind even touches the seat in some cases. I had it in my mind that some model of the 407 was to have a system like that but maybe not.

Stheno

Deleted User wrote: »

Can I run this by ye guys, for an opinion or two?

I have the 407 about 4-5 months now I'd say. Since day one, it's had a bit of trouble turning over in the mornings. It only ever seems to happen in the mornings (after it's been lying up for the night).

In the Rav, I used to get in, turn the key to start the ignition, it'd turn over, and away with me. I'm lead to believe on a Diesel it's good to switch the key in the ignition to light up the display, etc. before actually turning the car over (apparently you should wait about 10 seconds before you turn the car over?).


Anyway, I didn't know this (and I'm still not sure if it's a myth or not) so was regularly met with the car turning over and instantly dying.

For example, I get in, turn the car over, and it dies. Do it a second time, and it dies. Do it a third time and it starts up without a bother, and doesn't give another ounce of trouble.

Leaving the dash illuminated for about 10 secs has helped a tad, but that could all just be in my head either.

Thing is, it's only in the mornings. Even after a short spin it won't happen. This morning I went out to the car, (left the dash on for about 5 secs) and it died once and started on the second go. I drove for about 30 minutes, then left the car lying up for 10 hours. When I went out to it after the 10 hours, it started without a moments hesitation (left the dash on for about 5 secs again though).


I'm bewildered by it, to be completely honest.

Maybe it's just not a 'morning' car? :P

I learned to drive in a 1990 diesel passat hatchback.
It had the glow plugs. The glow plugs had to warm up before the car would perform, and it would do just what you are talking about if they were not given the bit of time to warm up, and like you say, if the car had been driven they were fine, it was starting from cold that was a bugger.

Now that was (sadly I'm old) 17 years ago (JESUS), and I'm not sure how far along diesel tech has come along since then in the likes of your 407 especially as you don't note the year.

The one saving grace in the two diesels I drove up to 2001 was that the glow plugs had an indicator on the dash that told you it was ok to go.

I wonder if you need them replaced if they still exist now? I imagine they are the same as spark plugs on a petrol (others correct me if I am wrong) and if they degrade in that case you'll get nowhere.

What mileage are you at?

punisher5112

Hopefully kkv it's not an injector problem but may be fuel filter or glow plugs as said above and changing glow plugs may help.

Interslice

Kkv. It could be air getting in the fuel lines. Would be my first things to look at if all your filters esp. Fuel filter are recent. And cranking itself is good.

glow plugs shouldnt effect an otherwise healthy modern diesel in this mild weather. Should start without them.

Hal1

I reckon the plugs need to heat up first.

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

I learned to drive in a 1990 diesel passat hatchback.
It had the glow plugs. The glow plugs had to warm up before the car would perform, and it would do just what you are talking about if they were not given the bit of time to warm up, and like you say, if the car had been driven they were fine, it was starting from cold that was a bugger.

Now that was (sadly I'm old) 17 years ago (JESUS), and I'm not sure how far along diesel tech has come along since then in the likes of your 407 especially as you don't note the year.

The one saving grace in the two diesels I drove up to 2001 was that the glow plugs had an indicator on the dash that told you it was ok to go.

I wonder if you need them replaced if they still exist now? I imagine they are the same as spark plugs on a petrol (others correct me if I am wrong) and if they degrade in that case you'll get nowhere.

What mileage are you at?

They still exist, diesel still needs to be heated

Stheno

Stheno wrote: »

Has there ever been a motors beers?

Yes

citroman

The modern direct injection diesel engines don't need much help from the heater plugs, I think they only operate from -5° and below.

Citroman

Interslice

Augeo wrote: »

They still exist, diesel still needs to be heated

There main function is to reduce emmisions and knocking until the engine warms up. unless it's baltic out. On older yolks like that passat they had too heat the swirl chamber so the slightly advanced dribble of diesel from the injectors would ignite.

Snotaul Goodman

Snotaul Goodman wrote: »

Sky Arts 1, can of beer, bag of O'Donnels crisps and a blazing fire. Happy happy happy Thursday night

A week later:

New Order live in Berlin 2012 on YouTube, can of beer, bag of crispy M&M's and a blazing fire. Again, happy happy happy Thursday night

Cheers for the replies, guys.


To give a bit more info (apologies for not being more in-depth initially)

1. The 407 is a 2006

2. It does indeed have the glow plugs light on the dash, however, although it illuminates with the rest of the dash lights, it also goes out with the rest of them, too. I've never seen it linger around or stay on longer than the other lights.

3. Car was serviced a while back (6-8 weeks ago, at a guess) by an indy mechanic. I had a peugeot mechanic look at the car who told me that I should find out if the fuel filter had been changed. If not, that could be the issue. I rang the indy (who actually happens to know the Peugeot mechanic) and he confirmed the fuel filter had indeed been changed.


How long would the average diesel car need to be 'turned on' (but not over) before it's okay to go?



In the morning I'll record a video on the phone of the car tryin' & dyin' ( ). Might help explain things a lot better than I can.