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Price Changes FPL 14/15 **Mod warning 1st post**

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    #422
    iroced
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    manual_man wrote: »
    I would have liked a slight slowdown on the price changes, but not to the extent we're seeing this season, whatever they've done (and i'm not even sure they know themselves) it's certainly made things less interesting

    100% with you on this. From one extreme to the other.

    Last year price changes speed was sometimes ridiculous with popular players rising thrice in 3 days and vice versa. Although I did take advantage of it on many occasions, I always thought it was somehow spoiling the game a little. But this year slowness is even more ridiculous.

    And If they really did take out of price changes calculations WC teams moves it's really beyond ridiculous. WC are parts of the game. We have 2 to use and we shall use it when and the way we want.


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    #423
    OneColdHand
    Registered Users Posts: 4,293 ✭✭✭OneColdHand


    zarquon wrote: »
    They should just leave the prices static if they want to do that.

    I think this year it is price falls that will make or break teams. The algorithm has changed and the price falls are happening more regularly than the rises. A lot of emphasis is put on jumping on bandwagons to make money but the onus is not necessarily on getting off players that are about to fall in price. From previous experience it is actually the price falls that make the big difference come the end of the season.

    On top of this, as someone pointed out before, when someone drops, you lose 100% of the drop, which is also different to a rise.


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    #424
    iroced
    Registered Users Posts: 6,262 ✭✭✭iroced


    zarquon wrote: »
    I think the casual players will see a lot of value decimated over time and they simply won't be able to afford players.
    OneColdHand wrote: »
    On top of this, as someone pointed out before, when someone drops, you lose 100% of the drop, which is also different to a rise.

    If we assume they changed the price fluctuations policy to favour the casual players and if it goes on like currently, they'll just manage to lose all casual players by November. Would be quite ironical :rolleyes:.


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    #425
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,666 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    zarquon wrote: »
    They should just leave the prices static if they want to do that.

    I think this year it is price falls that will make or break teams. The algorithm has changed and the price falls are happening more regularly than the rises. A lot of emphasis is put on jumping on bandwagons to make money but the onus is not necessarily on getting off players that are about to fall in price. From previous experience it is actually the price falls that make the big difference come the end of the season.

    I think the casual players will see a lot of value decimated over time and they simply won't be able to afford players.

    For me i am monitoring net transfers out closely for my team and will continue to do so all season.

    Regarding Ultimate FPL i would be happier if they just commercialise the current game by offering an official paid FPL competition or leagues. They must be aware of the numbers of cash leagues that people enter and the potential for revenue there. I reckon if they can get 21K users for Ultimate FPL at £5 a pop they could get anywhere between 50K to 100K for the original game at the same cost. I would love to play in an FPL league with a cash pot of £500K :eek:

    So it is last year in reverse with 100% damage on a price drop as opposed to 50% gain on a rise.

    When you put it as you have it will take as much vigilance as ever to avoid getting caught out by drops


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    #426
    F1ngers
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 10,291 Mod ✭✭✭✭F1ngers


    dahat wrote: »
    So it is last year in reverse with 100% damage on a price drop as opposed to 50% gain on a rise.

    Unless I'm reading this wrong, nothing is reversed.
    It's the same - you lose 100% of the drop and only gain 0.1 when a player rises 0.2.

    Sorry if I did read you wrong.


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    #427
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    dahat wrote: »
    So it is last year in reverse with 100% damage on a price drop as opposed to 50% gain on a rise.

    When you put it as you have it will take as much vigilance as ever to avoid getting caught out by drops

    Exactly, i am playing the bank game in reverse this year. Prices rises are very slow but drops are happening too frequently and more quickly. My first port of call for my team is the net transfers out figures. It's why i dumped Bojan for Naismith even though Bojan was bench fodder as is naismith. I figured i'd eventually need the 3rd forward to retain or increase value when upgrading to a bigger hitter. Bojan won't be long hitting 5.0 and that is disastrous for all who brought him in and still has him. Naismith is a short term punt for me and i will dump him in a few weeks. The net benefit could be a 0.5 drop for bojan and a 0.3/0.4 gain for Naismith (assuming he hits 6.1 to 6.3 in value!) meaning an extra 0.9 to spend on my team.

    That's the type of cash difference that can occur right there on your bench where some players simply ignore their bench when making transfers.


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    #428
    manual_man
    Registered Users Posts: 15,263 ✭✭✭✭manual_man


    Can anyone tell me if new signings are price protected for a certain amount of time?

    e.g. would i be right in thinking Welbeck/Falcao can't rise for x amount of days?


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    #429
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    manual_man wrote: »
    Can anyone tell me if new signings are price protected for a certain amount of time?

    e.g. would i be right in thinking Welbeck/Falcao can't rise for x amount of days?
    New signings into the league yes, transfers betwween teams in the PL no. Falcoa and the likes are protected till the 10th.


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    #430
    dahat
    Registered Users Posts: 16,666 ✭✭✭✭dahat


    F1ngers wrote: »
    Unless I'm reading this wrong, nothing is reversed.
    It's the same - you lose 100% of the drop and only gain 0.1 when a player rises 0.2.

    Sorry if I did read you wrong.

    More like I put it wrong, reverse of last year where we chased rises but only got 50% gain, 0.2 rise to gain 0.1 but this season if a drop is 0.1 we lose 0.1.
    Think that sounds right!


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    #431
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    New signings into the league yes, transfers betwween teams in the PL no. Falcoa and the likes are protected till the 10th.

    Just one note. In previous years this was the case, but right now we don't know if the same logic applies.

    We will know by the end of the internation break if the protection is still in place. It should be reasonable to assume that the protection is in place for new entrants but with everything that has gone on this year regarding the price rise changes, anything could happen so the legacy protections rules should not be taken as gospel until verified for this year.


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    #432
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Nah I'm certain I'm right on both counts.

    Gerorge Boyd dropped the other night straight after transferring from Hull to Burnley. Tom Cleverley dropped last night even though he transferred to villa.

    Di Maria has been transferred in by 187k since signing but he's protected till tomorrow, if this wasn't the case he'd be 9.7 now.


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    #433
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Nah I'm certain I'm right on both counts.

    Gerorge Boyd dropped the other night straight after transferring from Hull to Burnley. Tom Cleverley dropped last night even though he transferred to villa.

    Di Maria has been transferred in by 187k since signing but he's protected till tomorrow, if this wasn't the case he'd be 9.7 now.

    Good point on Di Maria, that example proves the protection is still in place so for new entrants. You are definitely right that internal PL transfers do not have protection.


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    #434
    smokingman
    Registered Users Posts: 3,740 ✭✭✭smokingman


    zarquon wrote: »
    Good point on Di Maria, that example proves the protection is still in place so for new entrants. You are definitely right that internal PL transfers do not have protection.

    So does that mean Wellbeck might go up soon?


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    #435
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    smokingman wrote: »
    So does that mean Wellbeck might go up soon?

    Yes, if he gets enough transfers in.


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    #436
    PARlance
    Registered Users Posts: 21,099 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    zarquon wrote: »
    Yes, if he gets enough transfers in.

    As long as they're not wildcard transfers ... Maybe.... I dunno :)


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    #437
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    This "wildcard transfers don't count for price changes" thing - anybody got a reliable reference for that? Because I've seen it mentioned for a couple of seasons now but without any evidence. It looks like a myth that just gets repeated and the more its repeated the more credence it seems to get.


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    #438
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    alchemist33 wrote: »
    This "wildcard transfers don't count for price changes" thing - anybody got a reliable reference for that? Because I've seen it mentioned for a couple of seasons now but without any evidence. It looks like a myth that just gets repeated and the more its repeated the more credence it seems to get.

    It's just a theory originating from the Fiso CTC experts to account for anomalies in the NTI figures for changes. No one knows for sure, but there is some substance and logic to the educated guess that wildcard NTI and NTO are excluded from the calculations


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    #439
    burrenguy
    Registered Users Posts: 416 ✭✭burrenguy


    anyone looking set to rise tonight?


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    #440
    Nalz
    Registered Users Posts: 16,736 ✭✭✭✭Nalz


    guzan is at 156%
    http://totalfpl.com/pricechanges

    does that mean he'll rise tonight? and could rise again soon?


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    #441
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    Trilla wrote: »
    guzan is at 156%
    http://totalfpl.com/pricechanges

    does that mean he'll rise tonight? and could rise again soon?

    He's been over 100% for days I think. Its unreliable.


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    #442
    sword1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,991 ✭✭✭sword1


    Trilla wrote: »
    guzan is at 156%
    http://totalfpl.com/pricechanges

    does that mean he'll rise tonight? and could rise again soon?

    Not sure about tonight,but doubt if He will rise again,their next 5 games are against the top 5 teams of 2013/14 season


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    #443
    PARlance
    Registered Users Posts: 21,099 ✭✭✭✭PARlance


    Trilla wrote: »
    guzan is at 156%
    http://totalfpl.com/pricechanges

    does that mean he'll rise tonight? and could rise again soon?

    As the lads said he's been above 100% for 4 or 5 days now.
    To answer the second part, the 56% "extra" doesn't carry over. He would go back to 0%.

    But the figures are very unreliable. I would rate it extremely unlikely that he would rise 0.2 this GW.


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    #444
    FHFC
    Registered Users Posts: 11,271 ✭✭✭✭FHFC


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    New signings into the league yes, transfers betwween teams in the PL no. Falcoa and the likes are protected till the 10th.

    Hmm, I may have been incorrect in a previous post on this. I thought transferred players were protected too. I'm 99.9% sure lukaku was protected last year when he went on loan to Everton.


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    #445
    qwabercd
    Registered Users Posts: 2,200 ✭✭✭qwabercd


    I've stopped using the price rise websites, they're worthless atm. Added benefit of not having to read the comment bar on the right hand side of the totalfpl page.


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    #446
    alchemist33
    Registered Users Posts: 10,969 ✭✭✭✭alchemist33


    qwabercd wrote: »
    I've stopped using the price rise websites, they're worthless atm. Added benefit of not having to read the comment bar on the right hand side of the totalfpl page.

    I LOLled!


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    #447
    Big Borg
    Registered Users Posts: 230 ✭✭Big Borg


    zarquon wrote: »
    Considering that Captain Rooney keeps hogging the free kicks from Mata i would seriously doubt that he will concede penalties to Falcao. I expect Rooney to be number 1 penalty taker when RVP is not on the pitch.

    In today's friendly, Rooney scored on a penalty.


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    #448
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    FHFC wrote: »
    Hmm, I may have been incorrect in a previous post on this. I thought transferred players were protected too. I'm 99.9% sure lukaku was protected last year when he went on loan to Everton.

    If I'm right I think Everton & Chelsea played each other pretty much straight after he moved, premier league rules made him ineligible for that game making him red flagged and when it's taken away he was protected.

    Edit
    Yep I'm right Chelsea played Everton on September 14th last season.


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    #449
    zarquon
    Registered Users Posts: 3,734 ✭✭✭zarquon


    Big Borg wrote: »
    In today's friendly, Rooney scored on a penalty.

    2 different teams, no correlation. When falcao and RVP start playing for England the point might be a good one ;)


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    #450
    Ace2007
    Registered Users Posts: 19,705 ✭✭✭✭Ace2007


    Lucas Hood wrote: »
    Nah I'm certain I'm right on both counts.

    Gerorge Boyd dropped the other night straight after transferring from Hull to Burnley. Tom Cleverley dropped last night even though he transferred to villa.

    Di Maria has been transferred in by 187k since signing but he's protected till tomorrow, if this wasn't the case he'd be 9.7 now.

    So based on your theory should Di Maria go up on Friday/Saturday night?


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    #451
    Lucas Hood
    Registered Users Posts: 7,205 ✭✭✭Lucas Hood


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    So based on your theory should Di Maria go up on Friday/Saturday night?

    Can't predict how many people will transfer him in but he'll be able to rise from tomorrow.


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