Eircom fibre for direct to exchange news?

eagleriver

Ah now I get what you mean.... thanks for pointing that out!!

Henry Ford III

The map on openeir now shows the local exchange as live for fibre with the 2 cabinets "in progress".

Can I assume that we're getting close to delivery now?

Johnboy1951

There are a number of cabinets in various locations that have been marked as going live today, 20th July.
Is there any means of knowing if these cabinets are yet live?
The where&when map still shows 20th July expected live date.

marno21

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

There are a number of cabinets in various locations that have been marked as going live today, 20th July.
Is there any means of knowing if these cabinets are yet live?
The where&when map still shows 20th July expected live date.

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=100412127&postcount=2766

Packet

Fingers crossed someone is coming to install VDSL2 from the exchange for me today. It went live last week. Have been waiting for what seems like forever to get this. First thing will be turning on the dual-stack Internet :-).

marno21

Finally got eir Fibre installed today after a long wait, 9 years after being told to expect DSL services soon.

The line is syncing at 71680/20480, so quite an improvement on a sloppy 8Mbit service from Ripplecom with a 150Gb monthly limit and terrible quality meaning very poor VoIP and streaming.

511

marno21 wrote: »

Finally got eir Fibre installed today after a long wait, 9 years after being told to expect DSL services soon.

The line is syncing at 71680/20480, so quite an improvement on a sloppy 8Mbit service from Ripplecom with a 150Gb monthly limit and terrible quality meaning very poor VoIP and streaming.

Was your exchange only capable of dial-up before now?

marno21

511 wrote: »

Was your exchange only capable of dial-up before now?

Yep, dialup only.

long_b

marno21 wrote: »

Finally got eir Fibre installed today after a long wait, 9 years after being told to expect DSL services soon.

The line is syncing at 71680/20480, so quite an improvement on a sloppy 8Mbit service from Ripplecom with a 150Gb monthly limit and terrible quality meaning very poor VoIP and streaming.

Must admit I got a bit teary eyed reading that.
Thank you for your work keeping us all updated with the national progress.

/* Salutes */

Robbo

Is there anything that can be done about a premises that's connected directly to the exchange?

I have a relative who we've established is directly on the exchange and only gets DSL at 6 Mbps on a good day. By the SNR and conversations with Eircom, the distance to the exchange is 3.5km. Other neighbouring houses are connected to nearer cabinets and Eircom in their wisdom have decided that the famous "blue lines" of the rural fibre scheme won't pass the premises.

However, there's 2 cabinets which are within approximately 1.5 km from the premises, even if you allow for a circuitous route along the road. All of these are fibre enabled and live for a while now. Has anyone had any luck in getting hooked up to a cabinet in place of the exchange? Would it be even possible to guarantee a connection to the cabinet if a new line was ordered using a bit of finesse?

Packet

Robbo wrote: »

Is there anything that can be done about a premises...

the famous "blue lines" of the rural fibre scheme won't pass the premises.

On the plus side they'll probably eventually get FTTH rather than VDSL2. The copper won't be rerouted.

Chromosphere

long_b wrote: »

Must admit I got a bit teary eyed reading that.
Thank you for your work keeping us all updated with the national progress.

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VDSL2 cabinets actually make a lot of sense for rural areas. Exchange-based ADSL was really a hacked on technology suitable for large population centres with short lines.

Actually, when you look at the old PSTN tech used for landlines, it benefited from a previous advance in technology in the late 70s/early 80s that allowed distributed small digital exchanges that brought rural areas advanced telephone services for the first time at reasonable cost. VDSL2 cabinets are just the modern equivalent.

If you think about it, one cabinet could adequately service an entire village.

I still think we need to look at cheaper intermediate steps to fibre though - e.g. if it's feasible getting 'deeper fibre' using pole-mounted VDSL2 and so on to get the fibre closer and closer to end users, while rolling enough fibre to ultimately extend that to full FTTH.

Packet

Chromosphere wrote: »

VDSL2 cabinets actually make a lot of sense for rural areas. Exchange-based ADSL was really a hacked on technology suitable for large population centres with short lines.

Actually, when you look at the old PSTN tech used for landlines, it benefited from a previous advance in technology in the late 70s/early 80s that allowed distributed small digital exchanges that brought rural areas advanced telephone services for the first time at reasonable cost. VDSL2 cabinets are just the modern equivalent.

If you think about it, one cabinet could adequately service an entire village.

I still think we need to look at cheaper intermediate steps to fibre though - e.g. if it's feasible getting 'deeper fibre' using pole-mounted VDSL2 and so on to get the fibre closer and closer to end users, while rolling enough fibre to ultimately extend that to full FTTH.

There is a huge deployment of exchange launched VDSL2 for commercial lines not covered by VDSL2 cabinets. Most suitable copper lines are getting it.

G.fast if it is used is more likely to happen in urban areas where getting the fibre drop all the way in is difficult. The FTTH ODN is the likely way of backhauling G.fast.

The costs for FTTH don't look too bad for a lot of premises. It's the final low density premises where kilometers of fibre ODN and poles are being put in just for them that drive up the costs.

ED E

Chromosphere wrote: »

VDSL2 cabinets actually make a lot of sense for rural areas. Exchange-based ADSL was really a hacked on technology suitable for large population centres with short lines.

Actually, when you look at the old PSTN tech used for landlines, it benefited from a previous advance in technology in the late 70s/early 80s that allowed distributed small digital exchanges that brought rural areas advanced telephone services for the first time at reasonable cost. VDSL2 cabinets are just the modern equivalent.

If you think about it, one cabinet could adequately service an entire village.

I still think we need to look at cheaper intermediate steps to fibre though - e.g. if it's feasible getting 'deeper fibre' using pole-mounted VDSL2 and so on to get the fibre closer and closer to end users, while rolling enough fibre to ultimately extend that to full FTTH.

What you're talking about is FTTDP and has a very limited application. It works in central europe but is poor here due to our abysmal planning regulations.

Copper_pipe

Getting fibre installed tomorrow

Vodafone has provided us with another HG658c but we have found this to not be so great.

Any recommendations for a new router under the 50 quid mark?

ED E

Wait and spend more, at €50 you won't get much better than the 658c. Maybe grab an F2000 for €20 if you find one second hand.

Copper_pipe

ED E wrote: »

Wait and spend more, at €50 you won't get much better than the 658c. Maybe grab an F2000 for €20 if you find one second hand.

Would something like this be any use?

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3623484/Trail/searchtext%3EWireless+modem.htm

mass_debater

Copper_pipe wrote: »

Would something like this be any use?

https://m.argos.ie/static/Product/partNumber/3623484/Trail/searchtext%3EWireless+modem.htm

No, it does not support VDSL. You don't have many to choose from, a handful.
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057632871/1/#post100625631

Your best bet is to try find an Eir F2000, it's much better and is dual band 802.11ac

daraghwal

mass_debater wrote: »

No, it does not support VDSL. You don't have many to choose from, a handful.
http://touch.boards.ie/thread/2057632871/1/#post100625631

Your best bet is to try find an Eir F2000, it's much better and is dual band 802.11ac

There's nearly always a few on adverts and donedeal, maybe ebay