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Protestors disrupting World War 1 commemoration at Glasnevin

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    #152
    IP freely
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    Where are joyriders when ya need them?

    They are the joyriders!


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    #153
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,390 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    I have read through this and its not making sense, anyone want to give me the cliff notes on this, republican sinn fein are protesting re the presents of representatives of the British army at Glasnevin, but it is alright for individual members of sinn fein to mean the Queen who is head of the British army on an other occasions?


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    #154
    Happyman42
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    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    Dave Cameron isn't Britain. And the point there is that the reaction to that remark confirms that The British don't glorify war.
    And there you go wheeling out the same old BS about the UK being a warmonger / lap dog of the US...
    I blame the internet...did you sit in the back of the class during History?

    Have you been to a miltary graveyard in Britain...there you will see what I mean about glorification.
    Even go to a children's play like Warhorse and you will see that even if it deals with the horrors of war it still makes the ultimate sacrifice a glorious thing.
    Stick your head in the sand if you wish, the evidence of this is all over the pages of history.
    Your last bit speaks volumes about the low opinion of your forebares.

    If an honest opinion is a 'lowly' one then you are correct. I don't confer good sense and judgement on people just because they happen to be dead. It (their choice) is what it is, and was.


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    #155
    Nodin
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    I have read through this and its not making sense, anyone want to give me the cliff notes on this, republican sinn fein are protesting re the presents of representatives of the British army at Glasnevin, but it is alright for individual members of sinn fein to mean the Queen who is head of the British army on other occasions?


    Republican Sinn Fein =/= Sinn Fein


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    #156
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    mariaalice wrote: »
    I have read through this and its not making sense, anyone want to give me the cliff notes on this, republican sinn fein are protesting re the presents of representatives of the British army at Glasnevin, but it is alright for individual members of sinn fein to mean the Queen who is head of the British army on other occasions?
    Re Sinn Fein /Republican Sinn Feinn just check out Monty Python's Life of Brian - the bit about the Popular Judean Front...


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    #157
    Kermit.de.frog
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    Why were these people allowed within 100 meters of the ceremony?


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    #158
    K-9
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    circadian wrote: »
    It really got out of hand.

    WW1, the protestors or the thread?

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #159
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,390 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    Nodin wrote: »
    Republican Sinn Fein =/= Sinn Fein


    Martin McGuinnesse met the Queen who is head of the British army, republican sinn fein are not the same?


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    #160
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mariaalice wrote: »
    Martin McGuinnesse met the Queen who is head of the British army.

    FFS......Martin McGuinness is not a member of Republican Sinn Fein. RSF and SF are two different organisations.


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    #161
    Karl Stein
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    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    Dave Cameron isn't Britain.

    Cameron very much personifies the British establishment who still have a strong imperialist streak running through them. Check out Andy Windsor speaking the uncomfortable truth:
    Addressing the Ambassador directly, Prince Andrew then turned to regional politics. He stated baldly that "the United Kingdom, Western Europe (and by extension you Americans too") were now back in the thick of playing the Great Game. More animated than ever, he stated cockily: "And this time we aim to win!"

    wikileaks.org
    And there you go wheeling out the same old BS about the UK being a warmonger / lap dog of the US...

    The UK very much is the junior partner in the US's imperial project.


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    #162
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    Have you been to a miltary graveyard in Britain...there you will see what I mean about glorification.
    Even go to a children's play like Warhorse and you will see that even if it deals with the horrors of war it still makes the ultimate sacrifice a glorious thing.
    Stick your head in the sand if you wish, the evidence of this is all over the pages of history.



    If an honest opinion is a 'lowly' one then you are correct. I don't confer good sense and judgement on people just because they happen to be dead. It (their choice) is what it is, and was.
    I have been to many CWGC Cemeteries and thing that comes through is the futility of war that point is made time and time again as its designed in to the fabric of the place.
    Its easy to fooled by the language 'The Glorious Dead' etc but don't be mistaken this is about paying respect to a lost generation and not about glorifying war.

    War Horse is a work of fiction and should be treated as such.


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    #163
    frostyjacks
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    They're entitled to protest if they feel like it. Not everyone subscribes to the establishment view on WWI.


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    #164
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Cameron very much personifies the British establishment who still have a strong imperialist streak running through them. Check out Andy Windsor speaking the uncomfortable truth:





    The UK very much is the junior partner in the US's imperial project.

    A). Again thats Dave and Andy...but still very much a really tiny part of the British.
    B) American..... can't be arsed thats just to lazy to be worthy of a retort.


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    #165
    mariaalice
    Registered Users Posts: 12,390 ✭✭✭✭mariaalice


    So republican sinn fein are the one involved in the drug gangs and killing each other each other on the north side of Dublin or is that a different lot.


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    #166
    Fudge You
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    VinLieger wrote: »
    Good god you are disgusting
    blueser wrote: »
    ''Imperialist'', ''imperialism and ''elitism''.
    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    Can I add 'you're' to that list?
    blueser wrote: »
    And an upper case 'S' at the beginning of a sentence?


    Why are these comments allowed?
    Is it because they were aimed at a poster who has views that are going against the popular opinion on the thread?


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    #167
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    frostyjacks wrote: »
    They're entitled to protest if they feel like it. Not everyone subscribes to the establishment view on WWI.
    I think its the manner of the protest thats the problem.
    Luckily we live in a place that allows this...thing is part of the reason for that goes back to these huge conflicts


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    #168
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    Fudge You wrote: »
    Why are these comments allowed?
    Is it because they were aimed at a poster who has views that are going against the popular opinion on the thread?

    Its churlish I know...sorry
    I was going to query how people with a strong anti British feeling stomach having to speak English but I decided not to...glad I didn't really.


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    #169
    Strazdas
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    They're entitled to protest if they feel like it. Not everyone subscribes to the establishment view on WWI.

    They disrupted the commemoration though and were even shouting during the President's speech and the minute's silence.


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    #170
    AudreyHepburn
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    frostyjacks wrote: »
    They're entitled to protest if they feel like it. Not everyone subscribes to the establishment view on WWI.

    Of course they are. But there is a time and place and outside a graveyard where there is not alone a memorial in progress, but presumably people visiting loved ones graves is not it.


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    #171
    3rdDegree
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    Nodin wrote: »
    FFS......Martin McGuinness is not a member of Republican Sinn Fein. RSF and SF are two different organisations.

    To an outsider, this would read like a scene from The Life Of Brian!


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    #172
    Happyman42
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    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    I have been to many CWGC Cemeteries and thing that comes through is the futility of war that point is made time and time again as its designed in to the fabric of the place.
    Its easy to fooled by the language 'The Glorious Dead' etc but don't be mistaken this is about paying respect to a lost generation and not about glorifying war.

    I wasn't talking about war graveyards, I was talking about military graveyards.
    Quite flabbergasted that you cannot see how war is routinely glorified by the British. Obviously the propaganda designed to get the gullible to take up arms is still working on some.


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    #173
    Karl Stein
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    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    A). Again thats Dave and Andy...but still very much a really tiny part of the British.

    Which is why I said the British Establishment and not the British people.
    B) American..... can't be arsed thats just to lazy to be worthy of a retort.

    Okay, you don't like facts.


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    #174
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    Happyman42 wrote: »
    I wasn't talking about war graveyards, I was talking about military graveyards.
    Quite flabbergasted that you cannot see how war is routinely glorified by the British. Obviously the propaganda designed to get the gullible to take up arms is still working on some.
    Can you show me the differnce between a 'Military' graveyard and a 'War Cemetery'. I'm assuming we're talking UK here too?
    I will check back once I've read some propaganda...


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    #175
    K-9
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    mariaalice wrote: »
    So republican sinn fein are the one involved in the drug gangs and killing each other each other on the north side of Dublin or is that a different lot.

    Probably or close connections. Waits for post saying Republicans of any description would never get involved in drugs.
    Fudge You wrote: »
    Why are these comments allowed?
    Is it because they were aimed at a poster who has views that are going against the popular opinion on the thread?
    People are allowed to post Grammar Nazism, they usually are carded though! Give the mods a chance to see them or get a reported post.

    Mad Men's Don Draper : What you call love was invented by guys like me, to sell nylons.



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    #176
    Hunterbiker
    Registered Users Posts: 1,259 ✭✭✭Hunterbiker


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Which is why I said the British Establishment and not the British people.



    Okay, you don't like facts.

    Oh I love facts. I just prefer taking them all into account rather than cherry picking them...

    And This establishment is bigger than 2 people...


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    #177
    Happyman42
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,066 ✭✭✭✭Happyman42


    Hunterbiker wrote: »
    Can you show me the differnce between a 'Military' graveyard and a 'War Cemetery'. I'm assuming we're talking UK here too?
    I will check back once I've read some propaganda...

    Clue: Where the military bury their dead when there is no war cemetery.


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    #178
    Miguel_Sanchez
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    Shouting "Brits Out" during a minutes silence to commemorate the Irish men who died in WWI and shouting to disrupt the Irish president when he's making a speech.


    These morons really know what they're at alright.


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    #179
    Macavity.
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,745 ✭✭✭Macavity.


    Disgusting bastards.


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    #180
    Winty
    Registered Users Posts: 1,033 ✭✭✭Winty


    Donkey Oaty wrote: »
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    From Republican.ie

    What will Gerry the paedophile protector Adams say about this, Will he condemn it ?


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    #181
    blueser
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    Fudge You wrote: »
    Why are these comments allowed?
    Is it because they were aimed at a poster who has views that are going against the popular opinion on the thread?
    So; some of those comments upset/annoy/irritate you? No more so than some of the other comments on here (or the actions of the idiots in Glasnevin) have upset other people on the thread. I know which I find more objectionable. However; each to their own.


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