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Time to boycott Isaraeli products

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    #1052
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Should Israel defend itself? 100% yes

    Should Israel target children playing on a beach, should Israel fire missiles into UN shelters full of kids, should Israel use kids as human shields? 100% no.

    And how many where rockets from inside Gaza, either misfiring so close to civilians or simply falling short inside Gaza?


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    #1053
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    mad muffin wrote: »
    And how many where rockets from inside Gaza, either misfiring so close to civilians or simply falling short inside Gaza?

    Is it ok to kill children or is it not ok to kill children?


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    #1054
    RobbingBandit
    Registered Users Posts: 18,094 ✭✭✭✭RobbingBandit


    Experienced three boycott Israeli goods protests today in quick succession in M&S, Jervis Shopping centre and Smyths, what ever happened to peaceful protests, bloody nut jobs should be sectioned.


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    #1055
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    RustyNut wrote: »
    Is it ok to kill children or is it not ok to kill children?

    It depends. Are you going to eat them, or just hang them up as trophies?


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    #1056
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    porsche959 wrote: »
    If you don't find this funny then I pity you:


    http://www.thescore.ie/gordon-darcy-gaza-protests-ireland-1605618-Aug2014/

    Gordon D'arcy, former international rugby player, now a walking cliche.

    fair play to D'arcy. He really has it all,impressive sportsman, business man and seems like he even has ethics and stands by his principles. I like him even more now.


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    #1057
    smurgen
    Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    Experienced three boycott Israeli goods protests today in quick succession in M&S, Jervis Shopping centre and Smyths, what ever happened to peaceful protests, bloody nut jobs should be sectioned.


    I never knew not buying goods from an extremist state is a sign of mental illness,please tell me more :D


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    #1058
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    bboybaboy19 wrote: »
    While Palestine has Hamas setting situations up thusly then it's going to continue most likely.

    Get rid of Hamas and you solve the issue tbh.

    Or Israel could stop targeting innocent civilians and then begging America to help.them avoid war crimes trials.


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    #1059
    20Cent
    Registered Users Posts: 8,934 ✭✭✭20Cent


    RobbingBandit wrote: »
    Experienced three boycott Israeli goods protests today in quick succession in M&S, Jervis Shopping centre and Smyths, what ever happened to peaceful protests, bloody nut jobs should be sectioned.

    How were they not peaceful?


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    #1060
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mad muffin wrote: »
    And how many where rockets from inside Gaza, either misfiring so close to civilians or simply falling short inside Gaza?

    I'm.sure you have a link to a pro Israeli site.all.lined up.and ready to inform us so.why not just post it there for us like a good chap.;)


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    #1061
    brimal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭brimal


    Nodin wrote: »
    Do you support the settlement project?

    No


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    #1062
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    I'm.sure you have a link to a pro Israeli site.all.lined up.and ready to inform us so.why not just post it there for us like a good chap.;)

    I have links. But like you say…


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    #1063
    brimal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭brimal


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Hamas has more members now than they had before the Israeli attacks.
    Of that you can be sure.
    Plus anything Hamas does now will be seen in a better light by the entire world after the murderous t.v. broadcasted war the Israelis waged on the defenseless people of Gaza.
    Hamas can't lose.

    Wow.. I don't even...


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    #1064
    Awkward Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Oh it's usually not even that nuanced, it's more like this:

    Israel = APARTHEID

    APARTHEID = BAD

    Israel = BAD

    Maybe at best you will get a litany of Israel's alleged crimes while completely ignoring why the state exists in the first place.

    I see you've ran out of arguments and have resorted to talking rubbish. Seriously the fact you are still at this despite running into a wall with every argument you have tried to defend Israel is something else.


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    #1065
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    brimal wrote: »
    Wow.. I don't even...

    Correct me if I'm wrong. This is the guy who says fair play to Hamas.


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    #1066
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Awkward Badger wrote: »
    I see you've ran out of arguments and have resorted to talking rubbish. Seriously the fact you are still at this despite running into a wall with every argument you have tried to defend Israel is something else.

    When you are you going to get into your silly little head that we are not all going to be bullied into opposing the only democracy in the Middle East?


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    #1067
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Hamas can't lose.

    Is this something that you would welcome?


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    #1068
    RenegadeDisco
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    RustyNut wrote: »
    Is it ok to kill children or is it not ok to kill children?

    I think we all support Hamas in their efforts to strap suicide vests on their children, launch rockets in populated areas and aim said rockets at innocent people. Free Palestian indeed...


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    #1069
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    RenegadeDisco wrote: »
    I think we all support Hamas in their efforts to strap suicide vests on their children, launch rockets in populated areas and aim said rockets at innocent people. Free Palestian indeed...

    But it was the zionists that killed all the children.


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    #1070
    Awkward Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    porsche959 wrote: »
    When you are you going to get into your silly little head that we are not all going to be bullied into opposing the only democracy in the Middle East?

    I don't expect anything will change your mind. Many different people have taken quite an amount of time engaging with you across several threads on this topic and from what I see you have ignored every single bit of it and ducked and weaved every bit of rationality and reason sent your way and simply accuse people of bullying you.


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    #1071
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    RustyNut wrote: »
    But it was the zionists that killed all the children.

    So Hamas are Zionists?

    News to me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teenagers


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    #1072
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Correct me if I'm wrong. This is the guy who says fair play to Hamas.

    That's me.
    I can't stand bullying in any shape or form and Israel is clearly a bully.


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    #1073
    bboybaboy19
    Closed Accounts Posts: 260 ✭✭bboybaboy19


    tayto lover wrote: »
    That's me.
    I can't stand bullying in any shape or form and Israel is clearly a bully.

    So you support Hamas...I can't even begin to fathom the logic.
    Disagree with Israel all you want but anyone who openly supports Hamas is nothing short of a moron IMO.


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    #1074
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    Awkward Badger wrote: »
    I don't expect anything will change your mind. Many different people have taken quite an amount of time engaging with you across several threads on this topic and from what I see you have ignored every single bit of it and ducked and weaved every bit of rationality and reason sent your way and simply accuse people of bullying you.

    The fact that you are singling my posts out in this thread regarding a discussion in a completely different thread, even though plenty of others have also posted comments supportive of Isreal or against the boycott of Israeli products, is tantamount to bulling IMO.

    Saying that I have ignored all points put to me is flat out false - I have acknowledged, for example, that the IDF investigating itself is not a good way to go. But actually, there's no point making concessions, your side never do. Even the more apparently sensible ones don't call out the extremists and open supporters of terrorism against Israel.


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    #1075
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    porsche959 wrote: »
    Is this something that you would welcome?

    Israeli murder tactics and land-grabbing create Hamas and other organisations in the same way as German murder tactics and land-grabbing created opposition in two wars.

    Can you not see the similarities?


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    #1076
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    porsche959 wrote: »
    So Hamas are Zionists?

    News to me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teenagers

    What evidence do you have to suggest this was carried out by Hamas and not Zionists?


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    #1077
    porsche959
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,499 ✭✭✭porsche959


    tayto lover wrote: »
    That's me.
    I can't stand bullying in any shape or form and Israel is clearly a bully.

    http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/neighborhood-bully


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    #1078
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bboybaboy19 wrote: »
    So you support Hamas...I can't even begin to fathom the logic.
    Disagree with Israel all you want but anyone who openly supports Hamas is nothing short of a moron IMO.

    Anybody who supports the Israeli murder regime is not in a position to chastise anyone else imo.

    Supporting the murderers of schoolgirls, little boys playing football on a beach or a family getting fresh air on their own roof is not a strong basis for chastisement.


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    #1079
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    porsche959 wrote: »
    So Hamas are Zionists?

    News to me.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_kidnapping_and_murder_of_Israeli_teenagers

    It's probably also news to you that Hamas didn't kill them :rolleyes:

    From your own link
    On 25 July, BBC correspondent Jon Donnisontweeted that Israeli police spokesman Mickey Rosenfeld admitted that the kidnappings did not occur on the orders of, or with the knowledge of the Hamas leadership, and that the crime was the action of a "lone cell".[18][19][20] 


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    #1080
    RenegadeDisco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29 ✭RenegadeDisco


    bumper234 wrote: »
    It's probably also news to you that Hamas didn't kill them :rolleyes:

    From your own link

    Eh the link says it was a guy called Hussam Kawasme that killed them, a Hamas leader who also secured funding from Hamas.


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    #1081
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    RenegadeDisco wrote: »
    Eh the link says it was a guy called Hussam Kawasme that killed them, a Hamas leader who also secured funding from Hamas.

    No

    It says
    On August 5, Israel said that it had arrested Hossam Kawasmeh on July 11, who is suspected of having organized the killing of the three teenagers. According to court documents, Kawasmeh stated that Hamas members in Gaza financed the recruitment and arming of the killers.[23][24]Hussam Qawasmeh lawyers stated that he confessed under "heavy torture" from Israeli security services, Shin Bet.[25]

    Hardly conclusive evidence of Hamas involvement.


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