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Time to boycott Isaraeli products

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    #962
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I don't normally put anyone on my ignore list but there is always a first…


    Why not just answer the question? It's based on what you stated earlier.


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    #963
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    mad muffin wrote: »
    That's a pretty weak argument.

    Pointing out the facts is not a weak argument. The claim is that Hamas were firing rockets, that was not backed up the link.
    mad muffin wrote: »
    Oh sorry. We don't know where these rockets are coming from. So sorry. We are just a government in name only. We can't control out little territory.

    Again so sorry.

    Care to name a government that can stop all crime? Otherwise the point your trying to make is nonsense. No government anywhere can control everything. Its absurd to suggest otherwise.

    Still the fact remain no rocket fire from Hamas until the IDF attacked them.

    There was also 2 Palestinians murdered by the IDF before the most recent war as well. Even, when Hamas aren't firing rockets, and aren't in control, the IDF still murder Palestinians.


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    #964
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    wes wrote: »
    Pointing out the facts is not a weak argument. The claim is that Hamas were firing rockets, that was not backed up the link.



    Care to name a government that can stop all crime? Otherwise the point your trying to make is nonsense. No government anywhere can control everything. Its absurd to suggest otherwise.

    Still the fact remain no rocket fire from Hamas until the IDF attacked them.

    There was also 2 Palestinians murdered by the IDF before the most recent war as well. Even, when Hamas aren't firing rockets, and aren't in control, the IDF still murder Palestinians.

    So Hamas are an ineffective government. Who can't stop rockets being launched from the strip…


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    #965
    wes
    Registered Users Posts: 11,747 ✭✭✭✭wes


    mad muffin wrote: »
    So Hamas are an ineffective government. Who can't stop rockets being launched from the strip…

    By that logic every government on the planet is a ineffective one, as they can't stop all crime.


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    #966
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    mad muffin wrote: »
    So Hamas are an ineffective government. Who can't stop rockets being launched from the strip…


    Do you think that no one from America can criticise Israel because of the fate of the native Americans?


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    #967
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I don't normally put anyone on my ignore list but there is always a first…

    Still refusing to answer the questions i see. I wonder will any of the pro zionists be willing to discuss Israels use of Palestinian children as human shields?


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    #968
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mad muffin wrote: »
    So Hamas are an ineffective government. Who can't stop rockets being launched from the strip…

    And Israel is an ineffective government who can't stop.the shooting of innocent children

    http://www.imemc.org/article/68775?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PalestineNews+%28Palestine+News%29

    Or settlers deliberately running kids over?

    http://www.imemc.org/article/68781?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PalestineNews+%28Palestine+News%29


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    #969
    norrie rugger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,656 ✭✭✭norrie rugger


    So no one can say that Britain is justified in blockading Ireland if a dissident group plants a bomb or kills another soldier?


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    #970
    Berserker
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    mad muffin wrote: »
    That's exactly what Israel should do. Open the blockade. Then we'll see where Hamas intentions lie.

    And what if that leads to a huge catastrophe in which thousands of people in Israel die. If it was the RoI and the decision lay with you, what would you do? I certainly wouldn't lift it, if the decision lay with me.
    norrie rugger wrote: »
    So no one can say that Britain is justified in blockading Ireland if a dissident group plants a bomb or kills another soldier?

    You are missing the point on that one. Read the Hamas covenant. It clearly states that they want to destroy the State of Israel through Jihad. It's not a dissident group in the middle east, they are in power. Comparing the middle east to NI is like comparing apples and oranges.


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    #971
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    wes wrote: »
    By that logic every government on the planet is a ineffective one, as they can't stop all crime.

    I don't know where you live, but I can't say any criminals in my area lob rockets into my backyard.
    bumper234 wrote: »
    And Israel is an ineffective government who can't stop.the shooting of innocent children

    http://www.imemc.org/article/68775?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PalestineNews+%28Palestine+News%29

    Or settlers deliberately running kids over?

    http://www.imemc.org/article/68781?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+PalestineNews+%28Palestine+News%29

    By wes's logic, yes.

    By my logic, both a turning a blind eye.


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    #972
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Still refusing to answer the questions i see. I wonder will any of the pro zionists be willing to discuss Israels use of Palestinian children as human shields?

    I answered the question. If he's not satisfied with my answer, then I can't help him any further.


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    #973
    humanji
    Registered Users Posts: 19,976 ✭✭✭✭humanji


    Folks, this is a thread about boycotting Israeli products. There's a different thread for discussing the current conflict and the two nations in general.


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    #974
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    Berserker wrote: »
    And what if that leads to a huge catastrophe in which thousands of people in Israel die. If it was the RoI and the decision lay with you, what would you do? I certainly wouldn't lift it, if the decision lay with me.



    You are missing the point on that one. Read the Hamas covenant. It clearly states that they want to destroy the State of Israel through Jihad. It's not a dissident group in the middle east, they are in power. Comparing the middle east to NI is like comparing apples and oranges.

    If it leads to a few thousand Israeli deaths, god help Gaza…


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    #975
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mad muffin wrote: »
    I don't know where you live, but I can't say any criminals in my area lob rockets into my backyard.



    By wes's logic, yes.

    By my logic, both a turning a blind eye.

    You said the Palestinian government are ineffective now you are saying they are turning a blind eye, which one is correct?


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    #976
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You said the Palestinian government are ineffective now you are saying they are turning a blind eye, which one is correct?

    Wasn't me…


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    #977
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Wasn't me…

    You said
    mad muffin wrote: »
    So Hamas are an ineffective government. Who can't stop rockets being launched from the strip…

    Then
    mad muffin wrote: »
    I don't know where you live, but I can't say any criminals in my area lob rockets into my backyard.



    By wes's logic, yes.

    By my logic, both a turning a blind eye.

    Anyway hopefully more and more people will stop buying Israeli products and hit the farmers and producers hard in the pocket.


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    #978
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    You said



    Then



    Anyway hopefully more and more people will stop buying Israeli products and hit the farmers and producers hard in the pocket.


    Please don't quote out of context. Start at the begging and proceed from there.


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    #979
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    mad muffin wrote: »
    Please don't quote out of context. Start at the begging and proceed from there.

    Not quoting multiple posts from half the thread just so you can continue your derail.


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    #980
    mad muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 8,034 ✭✭✭mad muffin


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Not quoting multiple posts from half the thread just so you can continue your derail.

    A thousand pardons…


    *bows and walks backward, bows and walks backward *



    Oh and here's a pot… or is it a kettle… :rolleyes:


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    #981
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    Old Chinese proverb; Constantly biting an angry mother bear on the behind is not a good idea, specially when that blinkered bear is known to be hard, ruthless and unforgiving towards those who bite & aggrivate her and her family.


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    #982
    karma_
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 6,798 ✭✭✭karma_


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Old Chinese proverb; Constantly biting an angry mother bear on the behind is not a good idea, specially when that blinkered bear is known to be hard, ruthless and unforgiving towards those who bite & aggrivate her and her family.

    LOL


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    #983
    bumper234
    Closed Accounts Posts: 10,250 ✭✭✭✭bumper234


    LordSutch wrote: »
    Old Chinese proverb; Constantly biting an angry mother bear on the behind is not a good idea, specially when that blinkered bear is known to be hard, ruthless and unforgiving towards those who bite & aggrivate her and her family.

    Old English proverb

    Killing children and using them as human shields is ****ed up and wrong!


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    #984
    LordSutch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,078 ✭✭✭✭LordSutch


    bumper234 wrote: »
    Old English proverb

    Killing children and using them as human shields is ****ed up and wrong!

    Depending on what you're getting at I agree, I think?


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    #985
    brimal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭brimal


    Genuine question here, which is on topic..

    Those of you who are boycotting Israel, will you be boycotting The Guardian?


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    #986
    Otacon
    Registered Users Posts: 6,721 ✭✭✭Otacon


    brimal wrote: »
    Genuine question here, which is on topic..

    Those of you who are boycotting Israel, will you be boycotting The Guardian?

    Holy crap! Is The Guardian blowing up children too!?


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    #987
    brimal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭brimal


    Otacon wrote: »
    Holy crap! Is The Guardian blowing up children too!?

    Are the fruit and veg farmers of Israel blowing up children?

    The Guardian uses Israeli company Outbrain for it's marketing and related content on each article.


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    #988
    Awkward Badger
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,414 ✭✭✭Awkward Badger


    brimal wrote: »
    Are the fruit and veg farmers of Israel blowing up children?

    The Guardian uses Israeli company Outbrain for it's marketing and related content on each article.

    Its up to The Guardian whether or not they want to continue using outbrain then. I won't stop shopping in Supervalu because they still sell Israeli carrots. I just wont buy the carrots.

    The Guardian is not an Israeli newspaper, it just uses an american company with links to Israel for some stuff so I don't see why I would boycott it.


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    #989
    RustyNut
    Registered Users Posts: 3,430 ✭✭✭RustyNut


    brimal wrote: »
    Are the fruit and veg farmers of Israel blowing up children?

    If they are serving with the idf then yes they are blowing up children.


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    #990
    Nodin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    brimal wrote: »
    Are the fruit and veg farmers of Israel blowing up children?
    .

    The taxes they pay are. That's how sanctions/boycotts work. Nobody dies, but life is made harder. If it bothers you that much, why not address the root cause and campaign for withdrawal from the West Bank etc


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    #991
    brimal
    Registered Users Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭brimal


    Awkward Badger wrote: »
    Its up to The Guardian whether or not they want to continue using outbrain then. I won't stop shopping in Supervalu because they still sell Israeli carrots. I just wont buy the carrots.

    The Guardian is not an Israeli newspaper, it just uses an american company with links to Israel for some stuff so I don't see why I would boycott it.

    You don't have a choice though with The Guardian's website. Each page has Outbrain's technology embedded on it. Each view you give their website, you are using Outbrain, thus helping an Israeli company.

    I've read people on this thread won't shop at Smyths now because they still sell Israeli toys. I wonder do they apply the same to their viewings of The Guardian website?

    As for you mentioning boycotting Israeli news outlets, wouldn't that result in an unbalanced view of the conflict? Would it not be important to read reports from news outlets actually in Israel (Ha'aretz for example)


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