Munster Team Talk/Gossip/Rumours Thread IV

thomond2006

HOOKERS

Mike Sherry 2018
Duncan Casey 2016
Niall Scannell 2017
Kevin O'Byrne 2016

PROPS

James Cronin 2019
Dave Kilcoyne 2017
Peter McCabe 2016

BJ Botha 2016
Stephen Archer 2018
John Ryan 2019
Mario Sagario 2016

Niall Horan Year 3
Rory Burke Year 3
Brian Scott Year 2
Liam O'Connor Year 1
JP Phelan Year 1

LOCKS

Mark Chisholm 2017
Donnacha Ryan 2017
Dave Foley 2017
Billy Holland 2016

Sean McCarthy Year 3
John Madigan Year 3
Darragh Moloney Year 2

FLANKERS

Peter O'Mahony 2018
Dave O'Callaghan 2018
Tommy O'Donnell 2019
Shane Buckley 2016
Jordan Coghlan 2016

Conor Oliver Year 1
Ben Kilkenny Year 1
Ollie Lyons Year 1

NUMBER EIGHTS

Robin Copeland 2018
CJ Stander 2018
Jack O'Donoghue 2018

SCRUM-HALVES

Conor Murray 2016
Cathal Sheridan 2016
Duncan Williams 2017
Tomas O'Leary 2017

Jack Cullen Year 3
Ryan Foley Year 2

FLY-HALVES

Ian Keatley 2017
Tyler Bleyendall 2017
Johnny Holland 2017
Rory Scannell 2018

Gearoid Lyons Year 2
Tómas Quinlan Year 1
Bill Johnston Year 1

CENTRES

Cian Bohane 2017
Denis Hurley 2016
Francis Saili 2017
David Johnston 2018

Dan Goggin Year 2
Ned Hodson Year 1

WINGERS

Simon Zebo 2016
Keith Earls 2016
Gerhard Van Den Heever 2016
Andrew Conway 2018
Ronan O'Mahony 2017
Darren Sweetnam 2017

Alex Wootton Year 3
Greg O'Shea Year 3
Steven McMahon Year 1

FULLBACKS

Stephen Fitzgerald Year 2

thomond2006

Munster:
Simon Zebo, Keith Earls, Francis Saili, Rory Scannell, Ronan O'Mahony; Ian Keatley, Conor Murray;
Dave Kilcoyne, Mike Sherry, John Ryan; Dave Foley, Donnacha Ryan; Billy Holland, Tommy O'Donnell, CJ Stander Capt.

Replacements:
Niall Scannell, James Cronin, Mario Sagario, Mark Chisholm, Robin Copeland, Jack O'Donoghue, Tomás O'Leary, Gerhard van den Heever.

Buer

Throwing caution to the wind.

thomond2006

Buer wrote: »

Throwing caution to the wind.

I hope this doesn't mean a weaker team will be sent to Zebre.

case885

Foley ultra conservative as always, good chance to give Scannell and O'Donoghue some game time instead he's playing the first 15 in a dead rubber.

molloyjh

case885 wrote: »

Foley ultra conservative as always, good chance to give Scannell and O'Donoghue some game time instead he's playing the first 15 in a dead rubber.

Munster can technically still qualify for the QFs. Can you imagine if the other games went Munsters way but they failed to get the 5 points because of the selection? There'd be war.

Mahatma Geansai

case885 wrote: »

Foley ultra conservative as always, good chance to give Scannell and O'Donoghue some game time instead he's playing the first 15 in a dead rubber.

I wouldn't call it a dead rubber as Munster are technically still in the competition.

Ignoring that technicality, of course Munster should be playing their strongest side. Munster need to breath some form and confidence back into the side and the way to do that is through winning games, and winning games well.

Cookiemunster

thomond2006 wrote: »

I hope this doesn't mean a weaker team will be sent to Zebre.

6 of the starting 15 and Cronin will be in camp with Ireland next week. Plus 13 Zebre players will be in camp with Italy. It's weakened teams all around for the next 8 weeks.

case885

molloyjh wrote:

Munster can technically still qualify for the QFs. Can you imagine if the other games went Munsters way but they failed to get the 5 points because of the selection? There'd be war.

I'll happily eat my words if all the permutations for Munster to go through happen but I can't see it happening.
Now that's not to say we still can't get a tbp against Treviso with Scannell and O'Donoghue in the team, I think we could still achieve that while giving a few young promising players a start.

thomond2006

Cookiemunster wrote: »

6 of the starting 15 and Cronin will be in camp with Ireland next week. Plus 13 Zebre players will be in camp with Italy. It's weakened teams all around for the next 8 weeks.

I hear you. I just hope the players not in camp next week aren't rested next week.

Buer

Regardless of the miracle Munster need to qualify, if they can't beat the worst team in Europe whilst resting a few lads and blooding a few others, Foley should walk on the spot.

Treviso are an appalling side. Munster should breeze past them whilst giving time to 3 or 4 younger players. He has even gone with a full strength bench. It speaks more to how much Foley is letting the pressure affect him more than anything.

jm08

Buer wrote: »

Regardless of the miracle Munster need to qualify, if they can't beat the worst team in Europe whilst resting a few lads and blooding a few others, Foley should walk on the spot.

Treviso are an appalling side. Munster should breeze past them whilst giving time to 3 or 4 younger players. He has even gone with a full strength bench. It speaks more to how much Foley is letting the pressure affect him more than anything.

Its probably more to do with the A team also playing this weekend in B&I Cup. Full squad needed to field 2 teams.

former total

jm08 wrote: »

Its probably more to do with the A team also playing this weekend in B&I Cup. Full squad needed to field 2 teams.

You still need the same number of players.

Whoever you drop from the seniors plays for the As. Job done, if the coach was so inclined.

jm08

former total wrote: »

You still need the same number of players.

Whoever you drop from the seniors plays for the As. Job done, if the coach was so inclined.

Better for the younger player development to play in a game that actually means something without parachuting in a load of senior players.

Buer

jm08 wrote: »

Its probably more to do with the A team also playing this weekend in B&I Cup. Full squad needed to field 2 teams.

That must be it alright.

JOD and Scannell must be on the bench in case they're needed for the B&I Cup game that's being played the day before.

PTH2009

so what needs to happen for us to qualify for the QFs. ???

Akrasia

PTH2009 wrote: »

so what needs to happen for us to qualify for the QFs. ???

All the underdogs need to win by more than 7 points while not getting a winning bonus point, and Leicester have to lose to stad

Akrasia

Oh and we need to beat treviso and then have enough money to hire the lawyers from 'making a Murderer' to defend us against the match fixing allegations that will inevitably follow

former total

Akrasia wrote: »

All the underdogs need to win by more than 7 points while not getting a winning bonus point, and Leicester have to lose to stad

No, Munster need Leicester to win and Stade not to even get a losing bonus point (at home).

And then a load of other results have to go their way.

PTH2009

Akrasia wrote: »

All the underdogs need to win by more than 7 points while not getting a winning bonus point, and Leicester have to lose to stad

Not going to happen I guess.

Akrasia

former total wrote: »

No, Munster need Leicester to win and Stade not to even get a losing bonus point (at home).

And then a load of other results have to go their way.

Sorry, yeah I got that backwards

Pink Fairy

It's not like it matters anyway, more chance of a lifelong Munster fan buying a Leinster season ticket!!

thomond2006

Pink Fairy wrote: »

It's not like it matters anyway, more chance of a lifelong Munster fan buying a Leinster season ticket!!

Uh...yeah

Pink Fairy

thomond2006 wrote: »

Uh...yeah

Was wondering how long it would take ya

CatFromHue

former total wrote: »

No, Munster need Leicester to win and Stade not to even get a losing bonus point (at home).

And then a load of other results have to go their way.

Just two others

Lanelli to beat Saints with Saints getting no more than 1 bps, this game is in Lanelli
Leinster to beat Wasps, with Wasps getting no bps

Munster could do with running up a big score too as the deciding factor for teams on the same points is points difference with
Munster -5
Saints -11
Wasps +73

gazump123

http://rugbylad.com/this-is-how-munster-can-still-qualify-for-the-champions-cup-quarter-finals/

That explains how we can qualify. Simple.

gazump123

http://rugbylad.com/this-is-how-munster-can-still-qualify-for-the-champions-cup-quarter-finals/

That explains how we can qualify. Simple.

lazybones32

Buer wrote: »

That must be it alright.

JOD and Scannell must be on the bench in case they're needed for the B&I Cup game that's being played the day before.

Treviso will be eyeing Munster as their best chance for a win in the ERC - no Team will be quaking in their boots to play us, so we have to start with the strongest and secure it from the earliest. The confidence of younger players will be improved more by coming on in a game that we are controlling, than one where we are playing catch-up or even trying to find some rhythm. I'd like to see some younger lads getting exposure but very few of them are realistically at the level required. There is a big step up from the A's to the Senior squad; especially when playing against a Team that has Internationally experienced players in it.

I expect Treviso to throw everything at us and I wouldn't underestimate what they're willing to do to win.

jm08

Buer wrote: »

That must be it alright.

JOD and Scannell must be on the bench in case they're needed for the B&I Cup game that's being played the day before.

Thats right - parachute last year's A captain in and drop this year's captain

Jack O'Donoghue is not in Munster's A squad this year. He was captain last year.

CoDy1

Akrasia wrote: »

Oh and we need to beat treviso and then have enough money to hire the lawyers from 'making a Murderer' to defend us against the match fixing allegations that will inevitably follow

and then hope we have enough left to hire better lawyers you can win the case...


/controversial

/no spoilers?

/what thread is this again?