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Child Shot in Ballyfermot

  • 13-06-2014 10:14pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Breaking News now on FM 104.

    9 year old child has been shot and wounded in Croftwood, Ballyfermot.

    In a critical condition.:(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 12,452 ✭✭✭✭The_Valeyard


    On Sky News. Ballyfermot.

    Crazy stuff. Hope he makes a speedy recovery


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,817 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    Ffs is there any end to it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 61,272 ✭✭✭✭Agent Coulson


    A 6 year old according the Independant. Shot in the neck.

    Sicking what is happening in this country.

    http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/news/boy-6-has-been-shot-in-dublin-30353670.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    Terrible.

    Report says boy's life not in danger. That's good news at least!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    Very sad news,


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,911 ✭✭✭Simi


    I hope he's ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,798 ✭✭✭✭DrumSteve


    Hopefully they find the ***** that did this. No mercy for them. This place is gettin worse.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    A child??? For fcuk sake. How can anyone live knowing they shot a child. Hope the cnuts are caught.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    It was always going to happen while those in power sat back and do feck all, It's more shocking when we go a day without a shooting


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,993 ✭✭✭Soups123


    Benteke wrote: »
    It was always going to happen while those in power sat back and do feck all, It's more shocking when we go a day without a shooting

    Those in power aren't the problem it's the scumbags that are and they are everywhere in every country


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  • Posts: 6,025 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    A child??? For fcuk sake. How can anyone live knowing they shot a child. Hope the cnuts are caught.

    I was thinking it had to be an accident, someone left a loaded gun lying around. hard to fathom that someone would fire at a child.

    Or is it anymore. I dunno. Give up on this city. :(


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    Ireland is one of the safest countries on the planet.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    A child??? For fcuk sake. How can anyone live knowing they shot a child. Hope the cnuts are caught.

    I wouldn't be so presumptuous

    Often when children this young are involved in gun 'incidents' it's with a firearm that they found in their home

    We will wait and see


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    Soups123 wrote: »
    Those in power aren't the problem it's the scumbags that are and they are everywhere in every country

    Yes I agree but when resources are been took away from the guards to help matters then you can blame the powers to be, The guards know who most of these people are and they can do nothing, The courts are a joke, How many times do you see a crime committed and then you hear that person or persons have 60+ criminal charges to their name? If it was the states they would not get pass 3

    Or maybe I'm jumping the gun and it was an accident with a fire arm that belongs to one of the child's family


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,060 ✭✭✭✭anewme


    my friend wrote: »
    I wouldn't be so presumptuous

    Often when children this young are involved in gun 'incidents' it's with a firearm that they found in their home

    We will wait and see

    Horrible thing to happen either way. Do most households have a gun these days?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    Loads of sirens going off for ages here, was wondering what was going on. Poor kid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    All these gangster wannabes, watching love hate doesn't help.

    But it shows this country is fascinated with gangland when one million people tune in to watch it every week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,204 ✭✭✭dodderangler


    Jake1 wrote: »
    I was thinking it had to be an accident, someone left a loaded gun lying around. hard to fathom that someone would fire at a child.

    Or is it anymore. I dunno. Give up on this city. :(

    Fcuk the city! Give up on this country.
    Whole island is fcuked and this just tops it off.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    All these gangster wannabes, watching love hate doesn't help.

    But it shows this country is fascinated with gangland when one million people tune in to watch it every week.

    What?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    What?

    What?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    What?

    TV is the shooter apparently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    Gardai believe the schoolboy was hit in a case of mistaken identity and that the hitmen were targeting a man who is living in the area.

    How can you have a mistaken identity with a 9 year old?
    A nine-year-old boy fighting for his life tonight after he was shot in the neck in West Dublin.

    The young boy was rushed to hospital after the incident in Croftwood Grove, Ballyfermot, West Dublin.

    Sources said the child was in a critical condition.

    Gardai believe the schoolboy was hit in a case of mistaken identity and that the hitmen were targeting a man who is living in the area.

    The incident happened at approximately 10.30pm and gardai rushed to the scene.

    It is believed that at least one officer was injured in the ensuing chase

    There is a large garda presence in the area as detectives seek the gunman.

    Ballyfermot Independent councillor Vincent Jackson said: "I knew there was a serious incident straight away.

    "I have never heard garda sirens like that before.

    "I have never seen some a huge amount of garda go past. I knew it must have been something serious.

    "It have never seen anything like it, the amount of guards made it seem like there was a President visit or something.

    "It was as if the president was coming or something."

    Local councillor Daithi De Roiste, FF, slammed this latest shocking attack.

    He said: "There are disturbing reports emerging tonight. This is shocking and appalling.

    "When will we start to take this seriously in Dublin?This is the latest in a long line of shootings in this area..

    "And yet not a single thing has been done."

    He added: "I am calling on gardai to meet community reps immediately to see what can be done to stop this."


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    wazky wrote: »
    TV is the shooter apparently.

    Yes, it is this simple and there can be no other explanation.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,366 Mod ✭✭✭✭RacoonQueen


    wazky wrote: »
    TV is the shooter apparently.

    Tommy Vercetti?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    wazky wrote: »
    TV is the shooter apparently.

    Not at all, but when impressionable young lads who want to be the next nidge sees how much people love the show and talk about the characters like their heroes and legends they're bound to get ideas in their heads.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Not at all, but when impressionable young lads who want to be the next nidge sees how much people love the show and talk about the characters like their heroes and legends they're bound to get ideas in their heads.

    Do you seriously think that something so simple as a TV programme is all it takes to compel someone to kill?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭wazky


    Not at all, but when impressionable young lads who want to be the next nidge sees how much people love the show and talk about the characters like their heroes and legends they're bound to get ideas in their heads.

    No they don't, not unless you are already down that path already and at that stage you don't need general consensus to continue your career choice.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,960 ✭✭✭DarkJager


    Simple solution to this is anyone caught with an illegal firearm - instant 20 years in prison. No appeal, no early release.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Benteke wrote: »
    It was always going to happen while those in power sat back and do feck all, It's more shocking when we go a day without a shooting
    Not sure why you blame "the man". They didn't pull the trigger.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,812 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Not at all, but when impressionable young lads who want to be the next nidge sees how much people love the show and talk about the characters like their heroes and legends they're bound to get ideas in their heads.

    Yeah...no gangland shootings ever took place before Love/Hate..ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Ireland is indeed one of the safest countries on the planet. However I feel sorry for the decent people of the area who have to put up with complete animals running the area through fear and intimidation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    biko wrote: »
    Not sure why you blame "the man". They didn't pull the trigger.

    and they don't do enough to stop those that do


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    Do you seriously think that something so simple as a TV programme is all it takes to compel someone to kill?

    No im saying it glorifies these characters, look at Paul Williams books and how well they sell.

    There is a fascination with gangland in this country.

    All im saying is some kids are naive and might think it's great to be involved in this carry on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Mistaken identify ? He must be a big 9 year old or a small man FfS.

    Hope they catch the animal.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    Ireland is one of the safest countries on the planet.
    Grand. Sure lets not strive to improve on the crime in the place. Forget that a young kid got shot.
    Just keep repeating Ireland is safe compared to other countries and things will improve themselves
    Not at all, but when impressionable young lads who want to be the next nidge sees how much people love the show and talk about the characters like their heroes and legends they're bound to get ideas in their heads.

    Come on. Watching a tv show does not turn people into murderers. There are other problems.
    Besides Nidge doesn't have an easy life at all! The show doesn't show him sitting around smiling the whole time, he's a paranoid mess 85% of the show


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,812 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Benteke wrote: »
    and they don't do enough to stop those that do

    What more can they do? It's 10 years just for possessing a bullet with intent to endanger life.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 81,220 ✭✭✭✭biko


    Benteke wrote: »
    and they don't do enough to stop those that do
    I see your point but at the end of the day it's a person that decides to pull that gun out. My anger is directed toward that particular scumbag and not "hose in power" (which, tbh, just dissipates the responsibility).

    And you can bet your bum he'll be like "I had a bad upbringing"..
    So fecking what, a lot of people manage to live through a bad life without resorting to scumbaggery.

    If you bring a gun out on the streets and fire it I think it's premeditated murder to some degree, throw away the key.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Benteke wrote: »
    How can you have a mistaken identity with a 9 year old?

    Were they looking for Brendan O'Carroll ?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 27,833 ✭✭✭✭ThisRegard


    All these gangster wannabes, watching love hate doesn't help.

    But it shows this country is fascinated with gangland when one million people tune in to watch it every week.

    Guns don't kill people, rappers do Love/Hate does.

    But seriously, wtf.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,689 ✭✭✭Karl Stein


    EyeSight wrote: »
    Grand. Sure lets not strive to improve on the crime in the place. Forget that a young kid got shot.
    Just keep repeating Ireland is safe compared to other countries and things will improve themselves

    You just had a little argument with yourself.

    Do you do that often?


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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    No im saying it glorifies these characters, look at Paul Williams books and how well they sell.

    There is a fascination with gangland in this country.

    All im saying is some kids are naive and might think it's great to be involved in this carry on.

    What about things like cuts in social spending? Underfunded social services who are unable to give every case the attention it fully deserves? Look at some of the cities in the US (Chicago, Detroit & Baltimore) and how bad things are there.

    Also, why in heaven would any parent allow their child to watch something like Love/Hate?

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,180 ✭✭✭EyeSight


    Karl Stein wrote: »
    You just had a little argument with yourself.

    Do you do that often?
    it was obvious sarcasm. I try to avoid using this emoticon but in your case :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    biko wrote: »
    I see your point but at the end of the day it's a person that decides to pull that gun out. My anger is directed toward that particular scumbag and not "hose in power" (which, tbh, just dissipates the responsibility).

    And you can bet your bum he'll be like "I had a bad upbringing"..
    So fecking what, a lot of people manage to live through a bad life without resorting to scumbaggery.

    I have a mate in college who defends this crap. He says people from these areas see crime as the only way they can make a name for themselves. Despite the fact that me and him both come from tough backgrounds and are in college. The only people who use that excuse are stupid people. There is not excuse for shooting a child in the neck.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 671 ✭✭✭Benteke


    Blay wrote: »
    What more can they do? It's 10 years just for possessing a bullet with intent to endanger life.

    They need to get tougher, The law is an ass, The courts are a joke, If they catch those who shot that little boy tonight, I'm going to go out on a limb and say that person(s) is out on bail for other crimes and have 60+ charges to their name

    Now I can't look into the future or anything like that but it would be a safe enough bet, Hopefully the young lad recovers and those responsable are brought to justice but they will just get out in a few years and probably do it again, When in truth the streets would be much safer if they never got out


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,428 ✭✭✭.jacksparrow.


    What about things like cuts in social spending? Underfunded social services who are unable to give every case the attention it fully deserves? Look at some of the cities in the US (Chicago, Detroit & Baltimore) and how bad things are there.

    Also, why in heaven would any parent allow their child to watch something like Love/Hate?

    Oh right so it's the government's fault now because they don't give enough money to who exactly ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,604 ✭✭✭dave1982


    Read else where he was shot by accident while the shooter was chasing the original target through a estate.

    Totally reckless no respect for anyone shooting like that

    Government might take Guards off water meter duty now:mad:

    Surely there will be a huge crackdown on "gangland" now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,541 ✭✭✭Smidge


    biko wrote: »
    I see your point but at the end of the day it's a person that decides to pull that gun out. My anger is directed toward that particular scumbag and not "hose in power" (which, tbh, just dissipates the responsibility).

    And you can bet your bum he'll be like "I had a bad upbringing"..
    So fecking what, a lot of people manage to live through a bad life without resorting to scumbaggery.

    If you bring a gun out on the streets and fire it I think it's premeditated murder to some degree, throw away the key.

    I agree with you for the most part biko, no sympathy for anyone who does this and no mitigation for the usual lines trotted out. But when you see several guards standing around on behalf of Irish Water and none to be seen in any of these areas where there is constant thuggery and crime and general torment of decent people, surely its impossible for us to keep defending AGS?


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 40,537 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Oh right so it's the government's fault now because they don't give enough money to who exactly ?

    Governments fault? What are you on about? I'm saying that it's more complicated than just blaming rock music/goth culture/biker gangs/videogames/Love-Hate. Here we have a specific assailant but you, like many seem to buy into the myth purported by the media that it's a simple problem.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 7,129 ✭✭✭my friend


    Smidge wrote: »
    I agree with you for the most part biko, no sympathy for anyone who does this and no mitigation for the usual lines trotted out. But when you see several guards standing around on behalf of Irish Water and none to be seen in any of these areas where there is constant thuggery and crime and general torment of decent people, surely its impossible for us to keep defending AGS?

    Cry me a river, pay your dues ya deadbeat


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,564 ✭✭✭✭steddyeddy


    Smidge wrote: »
    I agree with you for the most part biko, no sympathy for anyone who does this and no mitigation for the usual lines trotted out. But when you see several guards standing around on behalf of Irish Water and none to be seen in any of these areas where there is constant thuggery and crime and general torment of decent people, surely its impossible for us to keep defending AGS?


    Completely agree. Whoever assigned those gaurds should be ashamed of themselves.


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